# Bush Blackout Speech - What A Moron!!!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-blackout-speech-what-a-moron/195294>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 15, 2003, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-blackout-speech-what-a-moron/195294 "2003-08-15T01:29:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2003, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-blackout-speech-what-a-moron/195294/101 "2003-08-17T13:23:30Z")

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> \*Originally posted by elucidator \*  
> \*\*Absent that, I think we are entirely reasonable to assume that the action was taken with propaganda purposes in mind. \*\*

Wow, what a stunning revelation. Politicians do things for propoganda purposes. This Bush must be a real smart guy to have invented such a concept.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2003, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-blackout-speech-what-a-moron/195294/102 "2003-08-17T14:05:40Z")

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Monty, a “service” where they don’t even care if you show up or not is certainly “pretend”. Now, quit lying about what DtC has said - at no time did he say that Guard service in general is, or was, pretend.

I’ll go elucidator one better and point out that the flight was not necessary at all, strictly a photo op.

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> I’m also wondering why it’s so freaking hard for you to get that through your skull.

Aren’t we all.

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**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2003, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-blackout-speech-what-a-moron/195294/103 "2003-08-17T14:43:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \*  
> He’s like the retarded kid who hangs out with the football team. They let him wear a jersey and he thinks he’s part of the squad. The problem is that retarded kids are lovable an endearing. Shrub is just an asshole poseur.

My phalli ‘meringues, that there is an inaccuration. Of my mential fascilitisational abilities. Yes, it is. Today, Amnesia is strong \<nod\> It’s strong \<nod nod\> And the world knows that \<nod nod nod\> Bring it on. Home to me, yea-h, yeah-a, yeah-haaw \<serious frown\>  
\<clears throat\> I’ll take a few crusades. Sorry, quests. Questions. You foist, sire . . .

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2003, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-blackout-speech-what-a-moron/195294/104 "2003-08-17T15:28:58Z")

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Hey, Elvis, you jerk. I didn’t lie at all.

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**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2003, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-blackout-speech-what-a-moron/195294/105 "2003-08-17T16:22:54Z")

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Thank you. Was that a retro-orical question cos I reference all those to Ms Rice ?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2003, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-blackout-speech-what-a-moron/195294/106 "2003-08-17T17:40:03Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Monty \*  
> \*\*So you’re touting the same bullshit, hey, DtC? I’m wondering how the rest of the National Guard feels about you saying they’re not real Soldiers, that their service is pretend. And he wasn’t wearing a costume. He was wearing what one’s supposed to wear when one is a passenger in that aircraft. I’m also wondering why it’s so freaking hard for you to get that through your skull. \*\*

The rest of the National Guard has to show up for duty.

I say it was “pretend” because Shrub was assigned to what was known as the “Champagne Division” of the National Guard; a unit set up specifically as a santuary for rich and politically connected young men as a means to keep them out of combat.

Bush went and took a few flying lessons, then he deserted his division. I’m not disparaging the whole National Guard, I’m disparaging George Dumbya Bush. I’m disparaging the fact that not only did he use his family connections to make things as easy on himself as possible during the Vietnam War but that he showed an arrogant and spoiled contempt for even the limited service he WAS given.

The stunt on the boat was pure propaganda. Bush may have spent a few weekends taking flying lessons but he is most definitely not a soldier.

I usually agree with your posts, **Monty** , and I have nothing against you personally. I think you’re a pretty intelligent and thoughtful poster. I’ll just respectfully disagree with you this one time and say that I think Bush greatly inflated his own very limited military background and tried to project himself as having a comradery with people that he felt disinclined to go under fire with when he had the chance.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2003, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-blackout-speech-what-a-moron/195294/107 "2003-08-17T17:44:12Z")

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I’ll disagree with you in your appraisal of Bush’s demeanor, then, DtC. FTR: I don’t like the guy as president, I didn’t like the guy as governor, and I’ll certainly register my dislike at the polls come next election.

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**Author:** ![NothingMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b77776/32.png) [@NothingMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NothingMan)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2003, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-blackout-speech-what-a-moron/195294/108 "2003-08-17T18:01:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Evil One \*  
> \*\*Clinton was a smooth talker…and a man with no moral compass whatsoever. \*\*

Lets see. . . lying about getting a blow job versus lying about why you are starting a war.

Yeah, GW is a highly pious man. Sure. Right. He’s got a hand stretched to heaven. Absoulutely. Of course. Just don’t look too close at what the other hands doing **Evil One**.

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**Author:** ![Rashak\_Mani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@Rashak\_Mani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rashak_Mani)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-blackout-speech-what-a-moron/195294/109 "2003-08-18T15:29:18Z")

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I´d rather have him getting a blowjob than a War too… he does need a BJ badly too… all that anger and self righteousness…

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