# Bush demands Kosovo independence **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 10, 2007, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-demands-kosovo-independence/407497 "2007-06-10T20:41:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2007, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-demands-kosovo-independence/407497/21 "2007-06-11T19:19:23Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] I don’t see what the big deal is about this. I don’t consider “at some point in time” to be a deadline, but even if it were, why do we necessarily have to have the same policy for Iraq that we have for Kosovo? [/QUOTE] **RTF** : I didn’t read your post carefully enough. I had just read the Pit thread, and my post would be more appropriate for that. I see now that you were not making any comparisons between Kosovo and Iraq, and that Bush seemed to have no idea exactly what his policy was for Kosovo. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-demands-kosovo-independence/407497/22 "2007-06-12T01:25:49Z")
[QUOTE=Czarcasm] Does anyone think we can back up what Bush says [here?](http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070610/pl_nm/bush_albania_dc_11;_ylt=Atx7UQIdHANT2pWY2iLR9ssE1vAI) I know that he is bound and determined to go out as “The War President”, but I don’t think we have the manpower at this time. [/QUOTE] Kosovo might become independent without a war. If it simply declares independence, and the U.S. recognizes it, and neither the Serbians nor the Russians are willing to go to war over the point, then its independence will be a _fait accompli._ **If.** ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-demands-kosovo-independence/407497/23 "2007-06-12T04:14:03Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] Kosovo might become independent without a war. If it simply declares independence, and the U.S. recognizes it, and neither the Serbians nor the Russians are willing to go to war over the point, then its independence will be a _fait accompli._ **If.** [/QUOTE] That’s a lot of “ifs” to hang a threat on. What should we do _if_ Russia decides not to recognize Kosovo’s independence? ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-demands-kosovo-independence/407497/24 "2007-06-12T11:26:57Z")
[QUOTE=RTFirefly] [NY Times](http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/11/world/europe/11prexy.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin) (may be behind the subscription firewall): As Kevin Drum asked last night, “is it really too much to ask the president of the United States to take his own policies seriously enough to actually know what they are?” [/QUOTE] How has Mars been these past 7 years? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-demands-kosovo-independence/407497/25 "2007-06-13T02:04:39Z")
[QUOTE=Czarcasm] That’s a lot of “ifs” to hang a threat on. What should we do _if_ Russia decides not to recognize Kosovo’s independence? [/QUOTE] Agree to disagree. We can do that, if Serbia does not choose to escalate the disagreement to a matter of armed conflict. **If.** What else we gonna do anyway? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-demands-kosovo-independence/407497.md?page=1)