# Bush Didn't Expect Any Iraq Casualties

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-didnt-expect-any-iraq-casualties/270215>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 20, 2004, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-didnt-expect-any-iraq-casualties/270215 "2004-10-20T14:11:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-didnt-expect-any-iraq-casualties/270215/1 "2004-10-20T14:11:39Z")

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> NEW YORK (CNN) – The founder of the U.S. Christian Coalition said Tuesday he told President George W. Bush before the invasion of Iraq that he should prepare Americans for the likelihood of casualties, but the president told him, “We’re not going to have any casualties.”
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> Pat Robertson, an ardent Bush supporter, said he had that conversation with the president in Nashville, Tennessee, before the March 2003 invasion. He described Bush in the meeting as “the most self-assured man I’ve ever met in my life.”…
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> Full Story

Maybe Bush’s people can discredit the story on the grounds that the source is a well-known left-wing liberal commie pinko. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-didnt-expect-any-iraq-casualties/270215/2 "2004-10-20T14:14:37Z")

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Ack – duplicate posting (the browser coughed up a hairball the first time, and I thought it hadn’t gone through). Mods, please pull the dupe.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-didnt-expect-any-iraq-casualties/270215/3 "2004-10-20T14:17:23Z")

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The sad part is that Pat Robertson thinks Bush’s self-assurance is a good thing.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-didnt-expect-any-iraq-casualties/270215/4 "2004-10-20T14:24:12Z")

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> [@Pat Robertson](#):
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> “Even if he stumbles and messes up – and he’s had his share of stumbles and gaffes – I just think God’s blessing is on him,” Robertson said.

Yes, because God loves to bless prideful and foolish leaders who can’t even admit to being wrong. I don’t even know why people try to be good. Go ahead and be bad…God will bless you anyway!

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**Author:** ![Hyperelastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Hyperelastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hyperelastic)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-didnt-expect-any-iraq-casualties/270215/5 "2004-10-20T15:17:14Z")

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Pat Robertson praising Bush for yet another of his idiocies - it’s like a monkey picking bugs off another monkey.

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-didnt-expect-any-iraq-casualties/270215/6 "2004-10-20T15:22:53Z")

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Much as I’d like to tag Bush here, I’m wondering whether ol’ Rev. Robinson isn’t violating the commandment against bearing false witness. “President Bush didn’t think anybody would get hurt in that Iraq business, but _I_ knew better, oh yes…” Yeah, sure, whatever.

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-didnt-expect-any-iraq-casualties/270215/7 "2004-10-20T15:24:26Z")

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Erm, excuse me, Rev. _Robertson_. How could one forget the name of the man who so willingly agreed with Jerry Falwell that 9/11 was the result of too much atheism in America? :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-didnt-expect-any-iraq-casualties/270215/8 "2004-10-20T15:34:01Z")

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> [@Duke](#):
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> Erm, excuse me, Rev. _Robertson_. How could one forget the name of the man who so willingly agreed with Jerry Falwell that 9/11 was the result of too much atheism in America? :rolleyes:

I thought they blamed it on the homa-sekshuls.

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**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-didnt-expect-any-iraq-casualties/270215/9 "2004-10-20T16:01:34Z")

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Much as I’d love to believe this story, Pat Robertson is clearly a nut.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-didnt-expect-any-iraq-casualties/270215/10 "2004-10-20T16:13:39Z")

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> [@Fiver](#):
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> I thought they blamed it on the homa-sekshuls.

It was caused by a Coalition of the Wicked and Sinful, including homosexuals, atheists, and secular humanists.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-didnt-expect-any-iraq-casualties/270215/11 "2004-10-20T16:18:09Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> It was caused by a Coalition of the Wicked and Sinful, including homosexuals, atheists, and secular humanists.

Odd, I thought it was caused by Osama bin Laden. How foolish of us to have wrongly blamed Al Qaeda for 9/11 when really the WTC buildings were toppled by a giant hand that descended from the sky.

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**Author:** ![Malodorous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47774/32.png) [@Malodorous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malodorous)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-didnt-expect-any-iraq-casualties/270215/12 "2004-10-20T16:23:48Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> It was caused by a Coalition of the Wicked and Sinful, including homosexuals, atheists, and secular humanists.

We meet once a week. Sunday mornings of course. If its your first time attending, you have to bring a baked good.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-didnt-expect-any-iraq-casualties/270215/13 "2004-10-20T16:27:46Z")

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Just when you think Bush can’t look any loonier, along comes this from a source biased in his favor. How tempting it must be for God to smite this fool.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-didnt-expect-any-iraq-casualties/270215/14 "2004-10-20T16:29:47Z")

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> [@Malodorous](#):
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> We meet once a week. Sunday mornings of course. If its your first time attending, you have to bring a baked good.

Mmmm…kitten bread!

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-didnt-expect-any-iraq-casualties/270215/15 "2004-10-20T16:37:40Z")

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> [@DanBlather](#):
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> Much as I’d love to believe this story, Pat Robertson is clearly a nut.

Yes, but he got this part more right than the Administration’s cakewalkers did:

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> “I mean, the Lord told me it was going to be A, a disaster, and B, messy,” Robertson said. “I warned him about casualties.”

But “God’s blessing is upon him” anyway? Was it also on the ~1100 dead US troops?

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**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-didnt-expect-any-iraq-casualties/270215/16 "2004-10-20T16:54:08Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Just when you think Bush can’t look any loonier, along comes this from a source biased in his favor. How tempting it must be for God to smite this fool.

Well, it is an election year, and old PR hasn’t had his name out there yet this year. Which is pretty much as predictable as any person can get. And I’m always reminded of Sam Kinison’s routine where he has Pat checking the air pressure on his tires at 3 a. m. because Jesus told him too.

Slight hijack: I just checked on MapQuest: from my parking spot here at Technical Thingies, Inc to Pat’s front door is exactly 3.48 miles. I probably pass him on the road several times a month and don’t know it.

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**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-didnt-expect-any-iraq-casualties/270215/17 "2004-10-20T17:41:41Z")

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> I mean he was just sitting there like, ‘I’m on top of the world,’ " Robertson said on the CNN show, “Paula Zahn Now.”

Heh heh - I’m gonna get to kill me some people.

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**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2004, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-didnt-expect-any-iraq-casualties/270215/18 "2004-10-22T11:12:16Z")

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Maybe you people simple misjudge the intention and truth behind these words?

Clearly, since GW Bush is chosen, inspired, guided and blessed by God-in-the Bush-Christian-Version to launch his Rightful Holy Crusade against Eeviiiiiiiiilllllllll, he doesn’t see the US dead as “casualties”. They are the Chosen Ones that God takes directly to heaven as reward for the slaughtering of the Eeeeviiiiiiiiilllllll Develish People of Iraq.

This man is so misunderstood by His Own People… You would start to feel sorry for less.  
Salaam. A

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**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2004, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-didnt-expect-any-iraq-casualties/270215/19 "2004-10-22T11:28:17Z")

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Because clearly, the one time Pat Robertson is to be A) listened to, and B) believed, is the one time when he’s criticizing President Bush. It’s amusing that most of you will dismiss the man as a nutcase 99.9% of the time, but the one time he says something you agree with, you trot it out as, pardon the pun, gospel.

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**Author:** ![ElectricZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/58f4c7/32.png) [@ElectricZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElectricZ)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2004, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-didnt-expect-any-iraq-casualties/270215/20 "2004-10-22T14:19:42Z")

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> [@Aldebaran](#):
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> Clearly, since GW Bush is chosen, inspired, guided and blessed by God-in-the Bush-Christian-Version to launch his Rightful Holy Crusade against Eeviiiiiiiiilllllllll, he doesn’t see the US dead as “casualties”. They are the Chosen Ones that God takes directly to heaven as reward for the slaughtering of the Eeeeviiiiiiiiilllllll Develish People of Iraq.

Sounds remarkably like the guys who blow themselves up along with as many non-believers as they can so they can get to paradise.

Be nice if they could all just stand together in a circle and just blow each OTHER up, wouldn’t it?

EZ

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