# Bush family coincidences

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-family-coincidences/263742>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 9, 2004, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-family-coincidences/263742 "2004-09-09T05:57:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-family-coincidences/263742/21 "2004-09-10T11:02:42Z")

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> [@t-keela](#):
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> Where did it happen…don’t search, OR do you simply dismiss it as BS?

Sure thing, nutcase. TEH TRUTH IS OUT THER!!@@!

_You_ keep on posting your stupid half-truths, conspiracies, and outrageous propositions without cites. (Reliable, dependable cites.) _I’ll_ keep on making fun of you for doing so.

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-family-coincidences/263742/22 "2004-09-10T11:10:03Z")

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> [@t-keela](#):
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> More folks read the net than the newspapers don’t they?

This is what I mean by my website remark. Here, I’ve got some style guides for you to follow when drawing up the dossier:

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[HUGE TEXT!](http://www.4rie.com/)  
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Any and all of these techniques can be employed by the Seeker For Truth!

Seriously, though; this is a President who has attempted to lock up American citizens without trial or representation. Who the fuck _cares_ if his father knows a bin Laden or two? They’re not _all_ terrorists, you know, and they are a fairly high-up Saudi family. If there’s some hidden evil behind the Bush dynasty, wouldn’t they, y’know, hide it a bit better?

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-family-coincidences/263742/23 "2004-09-10T11:10:48Z")

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Don’t say I never do you any favors. [Here you go.](http://www.buttafly.com/bush/index.php)

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> George W. Bush has not captured Osama bin Laden so that oil companies and SUV owners could invade The French.

OMG!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

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**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-family-coincidences/263742/24 "2004-09-10T12:44:06Z")

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Guys, before you go off half-cocked (well, too late, I guess) I believe t-keela is just asking for a list of ALL the allegations and coincidences, nutty or not, so HE can look up all of them and analyze the reasoning behind them, for his own purposes. He may end up debunking every one in his paper, you dopes.

Ah, hell with it. He’s explained all that himself but you didn’t bother to read it; just kept on with the tinfoil hat jokes. This is one of the worst knee-jerk reactions I’ve seen on this board, from those who are often on the receiving end themselves. Yeesh.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-family-coincidences/263742/25 "2004-09-10T12:53:01Z")

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Laura Bush “miraculously” got pregnant after the couple had filed to adopt a foster child. I believe she was impregnanted by space aliens.

Oddly enough, both Stephen and Tabitha King are the results of such “miraculous” pregnancies after adoption.

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Bruce\_Daddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Daddy)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-family-coincidences/263742/26 "2004-09-10T12:53:02Z")

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**t-keela** = crazy. Not “Oh, you so crazy!” but “What are those black helicopters doing over my house?” crazy.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-family-coincidences/263742/27 "2004-09-10T13:10:51Z")

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> [@Brutus](#):
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> Would it stretch your conspiracy-addled little monkey brain too much to provide some cites? (Of the non-‘[holypoopiluvconspiracies.org](http://holypoopiluvconspiracies.org)’ variety, please.)

How about the [bushisapoopyhead.org](http://bushisapoopyhead.org) variety? Will those do?

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-family-coincidences/263742/28 "2004-09-10T13:20:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Muad’Dib#3 #4 \*note: refers to “coke sniffing”–\ ***Duke** , He has pretty much admited to it. This is no secret.[/QUOTE]  
Wha!?! When did Bush admit to _that_? AFAIK, he’s denied it fairly strenuously, which is a far cry from “pretty much” admitting to it.

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-family-coincidences/263742/29 "2004-09-10T13:21:49Z")

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Sorry, fouled up that coding…

> [@Maud'Dib](#):
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> #3 #4 (_note: refers to “coke sniffing”_– **Duke** ), He has pretty much admited to it. This is no secret.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-family-coincidences/263742/30 "2004-09-10T13:23:28Z")

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GWB and Charles Whitman both are Texans. Both had military connections, used firearms and shared an attraction to “high places”.

Mere coincidence? _I don’t think so._

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-family-coincidences/263742/31 "2004-09-10T13:47:03Z")

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“George W. Bush” has 11 letters. So does “Adolf Hitler”.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-family-coincidences/263742/32 "2004-09-10T14:08:48Z")

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t-keela, the Bushites can’t help but rise to anything they perceive as an attack on their Fearless Misleader. I understand, you just wanna list. I didn’t see this mentioned previously:

After 9/11, in which Saudi nationals were KNOWN to have participated, the Bush admin. helped the Saudi royals get their butts out of the U.S. instead of keeping a few around for questioning.

Bush’s records at the National Guard were at one time reported destroyed forever in a tragic microfilm accident – then were miraculously recovered.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-family-coincidences/263742/33 "2004-09-10T15:19:29Z")

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Sorry **Evil** , raising reasonable or at least debatable anti-Bush points is not what the conspiracy theorists want.

It’s like in the old days, telling an anti-Clinton crazy about the mysteriously reappearing Rose law firm records. They were fixated on the Vince Foster Murder and Arkansas drug deals.

A good juicy conspiracy theory goes well beyond the usual political hijinks.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-family-coincidences/263742/34 "2004-09-10T16:07:57Z")

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> [@Duke](#):
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> Wha!?! When did Bush admit to _that_? AFAIK, he’s denied it fairly strenuously, which is a far cry from “pretty much” admitting to it.

Actually, what he has done is to say he won’t talk about his past use or non-use of substances, and then proceeded to answer questions about which time periods he hasn’t done coke.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-family-coincidences/263742/35 "2004-09-10T16:14:42Z")

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Ah, the old “Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend” accusation.

T-keela (if that IS your real name!) you really are a twisted evil sociopath, aren’t you? You should seek counseling. You are a sick sick person.

A teenager gets in a car accident and her passenger is killed. And that means…what? That she did it on purpose? That the Bush family protected her? Exactly what? That she should have gone to jail? That she should be ostracized from civilized society forever? That everywhere she goes people should point and scream, “She killed her boyfriend!”?

Now, explain to me exactly why the Men in Black would step in to protect Laura Bush, when she had NO CONNECTION TO THE FUCKING BUSH FAMILY at the time?

You should be ashamed of yourself.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-family-coincidences/263742/36 "2004-09-10T17:28:50Z")

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actually, if you really want some scary material, go farther back. Look at Prescott Bush and Vannever (sp?) Bush.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-family-coincidences/263742/37 "2004-09-10T18:28:51Z")

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Both George W. Bush and Osama bin Laden have never been in Cliff Clavin’s kitchen.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-family-coincidences/263742/38 "2004-09-10T19:01:11Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> Ah, the old “Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend” accusation.

Would you be so good as to direct your attention to Post #16 in this thread? A careful reading of the penultimate paragraph (even a cursory one, IMHO) will reveal **t-keela** ’s disavowal of any characterization of Laura Bush as a murderess.

And now to the rest of your post:

> [@Heavily edited for high points of vituperation](#):
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> T-keela **blah blah blah** twisted evil sociopath **blah blah blah** sick sick person.
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> \<snip\> Bunch of stuff disavowed by **t-keela** \</snip\>
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> **blah blah blah** Men in Black **blah blah blah**
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> You should be ashamed of yourself.

One begins to wonder if you have any understanding of the concept of being ashamed of yourself.

**blah.**

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-family-coincidences/263742/39 "2004-09-10T19:05:14Z")

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> The Bushites come outta the fuckin woodwork.

Calling me a Bushite isn’t going to win you any points for credibility.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-family-coincidences/263742/40 "2004-09-10T19:27:42Z")

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> GWB was in business with the BinLadens in the 70’s it went bust and the BinLadens lost millions of $$

The bin Laden construction business went bust because of a dispute btween Osama’s father and the Saudi royal family. I’ve never heard of any Bush connection being involved.

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> Salaam BinLaden (Osama’s oldest brother) died in a small plane crash on a visit to Texas in 1988 he had a scheduled visit with GHWB but never made it.

Hadn’t heard this one before.

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> GHWB was in Dallas the day JFK was assassinated but later denied being there.

It was Nixon who was in Dallas the day Kennedy was shot. The conspiracy theory I’ve heard about Bush was that he was in Washington meeting with Hoover that day.

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> GHWB was one of Nixon’s flunkies during the Dirty Tricks Campaign

Hardly a flunkie. I believe Bush was the Chairman of the Republican Party during this time. While I’m sure he was working to get Nixon elected, I doubt he was breaking in to the Watergate.

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> Neil Bush was friends with John Hinkley

True for the most part. The Bush and Hinkley families were close.

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> GHWB and Nixon were key figures in the Bay of Pigs fiasco.

Nixon probably was. He was the Vice President and Republican Presidential candidate at the time the operation was being planned. Bush’s connection is more specualtive. Officially he was not involved but some people have found circumstantial evidence indicating he was.

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> GHWB met Jack Ruby through Richard Nixon. Ruby worked for Nixon as security at his private residence.

First time I’ve ever heard of a connection between Ruby and Nixon let alone a further connection to Bush. I’d like to see a cite that Ruby worked for Nixon.

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