# Bush, Gore, Nader, Buchannan, someone else, or nobody or undecided.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-gore-nader-buchannan-someone-else-or-nobody-or-undecided/25802>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [July 17, 2000, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-gore-nader-buchannan-someone-else-or-nobody-or-undecided/25802 "2000-07-17T05:25:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![mblackwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5fc32e/32.png) [@mblackwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mblackwell)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2000, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-gore-nader-buchannan-someone-else-or-nobody-or-undecided/25802/21 "2000-07-17T17:54:46Z")

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Sure he’s a moron but he is better than Gore. Democrats tend to piss me off, especially Gore.

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**Author:** ![jayron\_32](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/41988e/32.png) [@jayron\_32](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayron_32)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2000, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-gore-nader-buchannan-someone-else-or-nobody-or-undecided/25802/22 "2000-07-17T20:08:54Z")

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Harry Browne. Haven’t ever voted for a democan or a republicrat, and I’m not gonna start now. I refuse to throw my vote away for Gore or Bush when I can make it count and vote for Harry Browne.

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**Author:** ![SterlingNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@SterlingNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SterlingNorth)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2000, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-gore-nader-buchannan-someone-else-or-nobody-or-undecided/25802/23 "2000-07-17T21:20:03Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SarumanRex \*  
> You are correct, Bush is a moron. The only reason he has gotten as far as he has is because of his father. George Sr. knows his son is a moron and doesn’t expect much from him, George Jr knows he’s a moron and allows his underlings to run his business (both public and private). Only when unrealistic expectations are placed upon a moron (such as electing him president) AND the moron thinks he knows what he’s doing, will his true incompetence be revealed. If Bush gets elected his ego will swell to the point where his underlings won’t be able to control him anymore and he’ll make mistakes like no president before him.

I _was_ going to write-in **Dave Barry** , but after reading this, I changed my mind.

Finally, a reason to vote for Bush!!!

Come on folks, jump start my stand-up career!  
Vote Bush 2000!!!

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2000, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-gore-nader-buchannan-someone-else-or-nobody-or-undecided/25802/24 "2000-07-17T23:23:19Z")

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Gore. Mainly because the next President could be making a slew of Supreme Court appointments, and the Court is already too conservative as it is. Those of you voting for Nader may be handing the election to Bush. Bush’s Supreme Court appointments, as well as his appointments in the Department of the Interior, could make environmentalists regret that Green Party vote for decades to come.

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**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2000, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-gore-nader-buchannan-someone-else-or-nobody-or-undecided/25802/25 "2000-07-18T00:10:35Z")

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Bush

(But y’all knew that already, I’m sure)

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**Author:** ![capybara](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/capybara/32/202_2.png) [@capybara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capybara)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2000, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-gore-nader-buchannan-someone-else-or-nobody-or-undecided/25802/26 "2000-07-18T00:50:23Z")

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Ralphie boy. I figure that as many people will be putting in conscience-votes for Buchanan as for Nader, so I figure that we freaks on either side will even out and the curve will lens out on the sides (I figure that each of those parties getting 5% and future funding/ incorporated into the discourse of devates is more important than whichever of the republicrat moderates win this year).

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2000, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-gore-nader-buchannan-someone-else-or-nobody-or-undecided/25802/27 "2000-07-18T10:11:14Z")

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Gore. Because I can accept inaccessability, stiffness, corruption and elitism, but I draw the line at stupidity. I’d rather elect a competent bastard than a well-meaning idiot.

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2000, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-gore-nader-buchannan-someone-else-or-nobody-or-undecided/25802/28 "2000-07-18T10:47:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Alessan \*  
> \*\*Gore. Because I can accept inaccessability, stiffness, corruption and elitism, but I draw the line at stupidity. I’d rather elect a competent bastard than a well-meaning idiot. \*\*

Whoever said that George Dubya Bush is well-meaning? An idiot, yes, I completely agree. But well-meaning? I suppose he means well towards the people and organizations funding him and stroking his ego but towards the rest of us? I think he regards us as enemies.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2000, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-gore-nader-buchannan-someone-else-or-nobody-or-undecided/25802/29 "2000-07-18T11:13:05Z")

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> > Originally posted by Alessan  
> > Gore. Because I can accept inaccessability, stiffness, corruption and elitism, but I draw the line at stupidity. I’d rather elect a competent bastard than a well-meaning idiot.
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> Whoever said that George Dubya Bush is well-meaning? An idiot, yes, I completely agree. But well-meaning? I suppose he means well towards the people and organizations funding him and stroking his ego but towards the rest of us? I think he regards us as enemies.
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> LouisB

Precisely.

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**Author:** ![untateve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/dbc845/32.png) [@untateve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/untateve)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2000, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-gore-nader-buchannan-someone-else-or-nobody-or-undecided/25802/30 "2000-07-18T11:40:31Z")

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Nader

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**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2000, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-gore-nader-buchannan-someone-else-or-nobody-or-undecided/25802/31 "2000-07-18T12:06:28Z")

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I’m torn between Gore and Nader. On the one hand, I agree with Spoke that voting for Nader could be like voting for Bush. On the other hand, I think that is a dangerous attitude that will have us voting for the lesser evil in perpetuity.

Then again, we’re not having much luck getting Nader on the ballot here in KY. We’re just not a progressive state.

Dr. J

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2000, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-gore-nader-buchannan-someone-else-or-nobody-or-undecided/25802/32 "2000-07-18T15:45:09Z")

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I’m writing in Hillary Clinton.

I wouldn’t vote for Bush if you put a gun to my  
head.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2000, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-gore-nader-buchannan-someone-else-or-nobody-or-undecided/25802/33 "2000-07-18T16:03:57Z")

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Nader.

I too wouldn’t vote for Bush if you held a gun to my head.

Bush has the competence and experience that Jimmy Carter had in '76, but without the moral dimension. 'Nuff said.

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2000, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-gore-nader-buchannan-someone-else-or-nobody-or-undecided/25802/34 "2000-07-19T09:25:12Z")

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I was going to vote for Kodos, but now I think I’ll vote for Kang.

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2000, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-gore-nader-buchannan-someone-else-or-nobody-or-undecided/25802/35 "2000-08-18T22:40:51Z")

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**Nader…Without hesitation.**

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> I agree with Spoke that voting for Nader could be like voting for Bush. On the other hand, I think that is a dangerous attitude that will have us voting for the lesser evil in perpetuity.

Thank you. That is exactly right. People who don’t vote for the best candidate only because they fear others won’t vote for that candidate thus “wasting” their votes, don’t realize how an election is supposed to work. You vote for the best person for the job. PERIOD. You DO NOT vote for who you think is going to win.

The “horse-race” mentality is what’s gotten us into the mess that is our entire political system. The best rule-of-thumb is that you should vote your conscience and not take into consideration who you think other people are voting for. THAT is the only way an election can result in the selection of the best candidate.

And if you for some reason don’t think that any of the candidates are fit to serve, by all means write-in “Mickey Mouse” and send the message that a fictional mouse is a better choice than any of those clowns. That would be preferable to voting for who you think is going to win whether or not they deserve your vote. I can’t wait for the day that Mickey Mouse gets more votes than either of the candidates from the two major parties.

All that being said, I am voting for Nader knowing that his chances aren’t all that great. But the way I see it, the more votes he gets this election, the more serious consideration people will give him and other independant candidates in the future. That, and the fact that he is by far the best man for the job in my opinion.

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2000, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-gore-nader-buchannan-someone-else-or-nobody-or-undecided/25802/36 "2000-08-18T23:21:15Z")

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I agree with voltaire.

My ticket: [Green Party candidates](http://www.votenader.org/) Ralph Nader/Winona LaDuke.

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**Author:** ![Gr8Kat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gr8kat/32/18668_2.png) [@Gr8Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gr8Kat)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2000, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-gore-nader-buchannan-someone-else-or-nobody-or-undecided/25802/37 "2000-08-18T23:46:11Z")

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Gore, I guess, but I’m half tempted to write in Bill Bradley. Once upon a time, when he was still in the running, the [Presidential Selector](http://www.speakout.com/SelectSmart/) said he was the best match for me.

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**Author:** ![Gr8Kat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gr8kat/32/18668_2.png) [@Gr8Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gr8Kat)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2000, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-gore-nader-buchannan-someone-else-or-nobody-or-undecided/25802/38 "2000-08-18T23:50:32Z")

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Current Presidential Selector results:  
Score Candidate  
82 Albert Gore Jr.

74 David McReynolds

64 Ralph Nader

37 John Hagelin

23 George W. Bush

20 Harry Browne

9 Howard Phillips

8 Alan Keyes

4 Patrick J. (Pat) Buchanan

I’m so happy Buchanan is at the bottom of the list.

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**Author:** ![KeithT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e47774/32.png) [@KeithT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KeithT)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2000, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-gore-nader-buchannan-someone-else-or-nobody-or-undecided/25802/39 "2000-08-19T02:08:36Z")

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Score Candidates  
74 Harry Browne  
61 John Hagelin  
60 George W. Bush  
53 Alan Keyes  
41 Albert Gore Jr.  
38 Howard Phillips  
36 Ralph Nader  
35 David McReynolds  
32 Patrick J. (Pat) Buchanan

**Gr8Kat** , I think it’s funny that Buchanan is at the bottom of the lists of people with such different political leanings. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Tzel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Tzel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tzel)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2000, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-gore-nader-buchannan-someone-else-or-nobody-or-undecided/25802/40 "2000-08-19T05:49:27Z")

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Nader. Definitely Nader.

And for the cynics that think they will be “throwing their votes away,” you should also consider the other bit of cynicism that “your one vote won’t change the outcome of the election anyway.” With that in mind, voting for one of the major parties is how you will be throwing your vote away, unless you sincerely believe in them. Your vote will be hidden among millions of others. At least if you vote your conscience you can send a message.

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