# Bush II to Not Attend RNC **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 20, 2012, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-ii-to-not-attend-rnc/628904 "2012-07-20T23:23:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-ii-to-not-attend-rnc/628904/41 "2012-07-24T18:23:20Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Don’t you find the suggestion that somebody should get a few drinks into a recovering alcoholic a bit, shall we say, not the best suggestion? That depends on whether you care what happens to him and, more importantly, **how** you care what happens to him. In this case, it is a very good suggestion indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-ii-to-not-attend-rnc/628904/42 "2012-07-24T20:19:07Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > That depends on whether you care what happens to him and, more importantly, **how** you care what happens to him. > > In this case, it is a very good suggestion indeed. Well, I care about people in general and I think it’s rather unseemly to wish something like that on anyone, regardless of his agreement or disagreement with me. So, the suggestion rots. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-ii-to-not-attend-rnc/628904/43 "2012-07-24T20:20:45Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Well, I care about people in general and I think it’s rather unseemly to wish something like that on anyone, regardless of his agreement or disagreement with me. So, the suggestion rots. Meh, the original comment was 1) clearly a joke and 2) clearly had nothing to do with Bush’s history of alcoholism. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-ii-to-not-attend-rnc/628904/44 "2012-07-24T22:17:09Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > I am! Me, me! $10! Right here! Before we sign on the dotted line, I’d like to understand how you are defining what it means to “be back in the White House”. To me, it’s an official position and he’s there a majority of the time (either in the WH, or traveling on WH business). ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-ii-to-not-attend-rnc/628904/45 "2012-07-25T00:24:32Z")
Word on the street is, he’s lying low, in part, because he’s back on the hooch. (And I won’t bet with you because of the exact issue of how will it be decided - he’s back! I’m pretty sure my view will be at odds with yours, hence, any bet would be a waste of both our times.) ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-ii-to-not-attend-rnc/628904/46 "2012-07-25T01:42:39Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Before we sign on the dotted line, I’d like to understand how you are defining what it means to “be back in the White House”. To me, it’s an official position and he’s there a majority of the time (either in the WH, or traveling on WH business). I’m not so sure about “a majority of the time.” That sounds weaselly and hard to define. How about: On the WH payroll with an official title (“Shotgun Czar” or “Advisory Council Member” or whatever, but an actual title) some time during the first two years of a Romney presidency? ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-ii-to-not-attend-rnc/628904/47 "2012-07-25T01:46:12Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > I am! Me, me! $10! Right here! Don’t bets regarding Mitt _start_ at $50,000.00? ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-ii-to-not-attend-rnc/628904/48 "2012-07-25T03:02:08Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > I’d put a tenner on it! Make sure the terms are clear first. Do you lose if Romney doesn’t get in, or is the bet reneged? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-ii-to-not-attend-rnc/628904/49 "2012-08-09T13:47:27Z")
[**Jeb** Bush will be a featured speaker,](http://www.postonpolitics.com/2012/08/jeb-bush-joins-republican-convention-speaker-lineup-with-santorum-rand-paul/) at any rate. So will Santorum, and Rand Paul. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-ii-to-not-attend-rnc/628904/50 "2012-08-09T14:06:33Z")
So far, \*no one \* (other than Rice, who gets excused of her failureness for demographic reasons) actually closely associated with the last Republican administration, one which ran two full terms and only ended about three years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-ii-to-not-attend-rnc/628904/51 "2012-08-09T14:27:55Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > Word on the street is, he’s lying low, in part, because he’s back on the hooch. If true (and I have no idea if it is or not) I would find that very sad indeed, and I have no love for the man. Going dry was a major personal achievement for a man with few genuine positive achievements of his own in his life; to lose that would be tragic. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-ii-to-not-attend-rnc/628904/52 "2012-08-09T15:13:13Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > I wish President Bush would at least comment more on current events. He seems to be almost in exile, not retirement. A combination of (A) not having anything worthwhile to say, and (B) nobody thinking he does, either. Where does the rumor of his falling off the wagon come from? ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-ii-to-not-attend-rnc/628904/53 "2012-08-10T01:27:14Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Going dry was a major personal achievement for a man with few genuine positive achievements of his own in his life; to lose that would be tragic. I doubt it’ll change the public perception of him. If anything, an inability to face the public increases my estimation of the man. I honestly thought he didn’t care for the opinions of anyone but his wife and his dog. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-ii-to-not-attend-rnc/628904/54 "2012-08-10T08:15:19Z")
> [@gamerunknown](#): > > I doubt it’ll change the public perception of him. Probably not but I wasn’t talking about his public profile, just my personal opinion of his situation. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-ii-to-not-attend-rnc/628904/55 "2012-08-10T08:23:32Z")
> [@gamerunknown](#): > > I doubt it’ll change the public perception of him. Probably not but I wasn’t talking about his public profile, just my personal opinion of his situation. ---
**Author:** ![Philliam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/philliam/32/3011_2.png) [@Philliam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philliam)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-ii-to-not-attend-rnc/628904/56 "2012-08-10T18:33:37Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > [**Jeb** Bush will be a featured speaker,](http://www.postonpolitics.com/2012/08/jeb-bush-joins-republican-convention-speaker-lineup-with-santorum-rand-paul/) at any rate. So will Santorum, and Rand Paul. They will need to have a serious amount of carbon control rods on site to prevent a chain-reaction of Insanium if those three are ever in proximity. The negative energy release could be almost unimaginable. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-ii-to-not-attend-rnc/628904/57 "2012-08-10T18:47:24Z")
> [@Philliam](#): > > They will need to have a serious amount of carbon control rods on site to prevent a chain-reaction of Insanium if those three are ever in proximity. The negative energy release could be almost unimaginable. Bravo! Someday I’m going to “borrow” that Insanium line. ---
**Author:** ![Docta\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@Docta\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Docta_G)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2012, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-ii-to-not-attend-rnc/628904/58 "2012-08-13T03:59:41Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > he seems just plain out not interested in things. not the curious type, as far as i could/can see. Yeah, we noticed that while he was “perzident.” ---
**Author:** ![Docta\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@Docta\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Docta_G)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2012, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-ii-to-not-attend-rnc/628904/59 "2012-08-13T04:00:43Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > If true (and I have no idea if it is or not) I would find that very sad indeed, and I have no love for the man. Going dry was a major personal achievement for a man with few genuine positive achievements of his own in his life; to lose that would be tragic. Fuck him. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2012, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-ii-to-not-attend-rnc/628904/60 "2012-08-13T11:48:07Z")
> [@Docta\_G](#): > > Fuck him. I just said I have no love for the man, so no fucking for him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-ii-to-not-attend-rnc/628904.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-ii-to-not-attend-rnc/628904.md?page=4)