# Bush -- Intelligence -- Iraq -- Argh!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-intelligence-iraq-argh/140472>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 4, 2002, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-intelligence-iraq-argh/140472 "2002-12-04T17:10:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![NaSultainne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8797f3/32.png) [@NaSultainne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NaSultainne)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2002, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-intelligence-iraq-argh/140472/21 "2002-12-05T21:46:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Miller \*  
> \*\*That was Teddy, not Franklin, and the quote was “ **Speak** softly and carry a big stick.” Not “walk.” And frankly, your grasp of modern international politics is about as firm as your grasp of classic political rhetoric. \*\*

**Miller** , you’re an ass. I do preview my posts, frequently more than once, as should be obvious from the limited typos in my posts, regardless of length. I am, however, not nearly so perfect as you. So sad.

**Gary Kumquat** , you too are an ass. Any stereotype derives its humor from the exaggeration of a commonly recognized characteristic. Blonde jokes, Polish jokes, et al, are funny most frequently when they draw upon these qualities, and for most thinking people, it is easily recognized as such. Perhaps for you, I should post the following disclaimer:

This joke in no way expresses the poster’s views toward any specific French citizen.

It was a lame joke. Your overreaction was unnecessary.

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**Author:** ![Tee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Tee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tee)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2002, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-intelligence-iraq-argh/140472/22 "2002-12-05T22:03:24Z")

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> \*Originally posted by kingpengvin \*  
> \*\*This shoot first ask questions later attitude is unecessary. There is no imediate threat. We can take the time to investigate and assess the situation impartially through the UN.  
> Or do you really fear that the Iraqi hoardes will over run the Middle east and cut off our oil supply by the end of the week? \*\*

No, that was never my main concern. I’m more fearful of him using the weapons as leverage in some way, like he did before, ‘try to remove me from Kuwait and I’ll shoot missiles at Israel.’ Which he did already…next time he may be better equipped.

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> _Originally posted by mhendo_  
> **And many of the evil deeds you attribute to Saddam - the Scuds, the firing of the oil wells, etc. - were done after he was attacked by US-led forces.**

…after he had invaded a small sovereign country. After which the UN imposed trade restrictions on Iraq and the US mobilized to defend Saudi Arabia. Months _later_ we went on the offensive.

I’m not advocating war either, but I am supportive of taking a hard line against Iraq - saw a quote from Clinton a while ago, he agreed - and I haven’t seen any way proposed to do that other than to _be_ a threat (preferably with UN backing.) I think this is a superb time to turn up the heat - global fight against terrorism, the ongoing _intifada_ - can’t think of a better time to try to remove this guy from the world stage. I agree with a lot of things **NaSultainne** has said thus far…er, minus anyone in particular being an ass and so forth. 😉

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**Author:** ![NaSultainne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8797f3/32.png) [@NaSultainne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NaSultainne)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2002, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-intelligence-iraq-argh/140472/23 "2002-12-05T22:16:13Z")

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Darn it, _I’m_ not usually an ass, even in the Pit.

**Miller** and **Gary Kumquat** , consider my ranking of your comments reduced on the scale to ‘Jerk’ status.  
That is all.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2002, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-intelligence-iraq-argh/140472/24 "2002-12-06T06:34:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by NaSultainne \*  
> **Any stereotype derives its humor from the exaggeration of a commonly recognized characteristic. Blonde jokes, Polish jokes, et al, are funny most frequently when they draw upon these qualities**

Please consider me an ass, jerk or whatever the fuck you want.

In exchange, I’ll consider you a dumb fuck who finds stereotypes funny.

If you really want to help my cause, go post a few of the polish jokes you find so funny.

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**Author:** ![Sinyster1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Sinyster1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinyster1)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2002, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-intelligence-iraq-argh/140472/25 "2002-12-06T07:04:42Z")

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Ya know what FUCK IRAQ. Saddam has been a splinter in our side ever since we put him in power. Yes we can learn from our mistakes. Saddam has done nothing good for his country or the world. He keeps them impoverished yet he has million dollar castles.

I say we unleash Israel on them and just look away.

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2002, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-intelligence-iraq-argh/140472/26 "2002-12-06T14:23:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Gary Kumquat \*  
> \*\*Please consider me an ass, jerk or whatever the fuck you want.
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> In exchange, I’ll consider you a dumb fuck who finds stereotypes funny.
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> If you really want to help my cause, go post a few of the polish jokes you find so funny. \*\*

Unfortunately, unlike French military ineptitude jokes, Polish jokes are not based in fact.

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