# Bush is establishing Universal healthcare **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 10, 2008, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-is-establishing-universal-healthcare/437074 "2008-02-10T21:13:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JohnnieEnigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dfb087/32.png) [@JohnnieEnigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnnieEnigma)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2008, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-is-establishing-universal-healthcare/437074/1 "2008-02-10T21:13:21Z")
… for Iraqi’s. :eek: [http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001870042\_iraqdig03.html](http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001870042_iraqdig03.html) That’s pretty funny, though. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2008, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-is-establishing-universal-healthcare/437074/2 "2008-02-10T23:21:59Z")
[QUOTE=JohnnieEnigma] … for Iraqi’s. :eek: > **[The Seattle Times | Local news, sports, business, politics, entertainment,...](https://www.seattletimes.com)** > > Local news, sports, business, politics, entertainment, travel, restaurants and opinion for Seattle and the Pacific Northwest. That’s pretty funny, though. [/QUOTE] That link is four years old. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2008, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-is-establishing-universal-healthcare/437074/3 "2008-02-10T23:26:48Z")
Be even easier now, not so many. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2008, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-is-establishing-universal-healthcare/437074/4 "2008-02-10T23:31:47Z")
What’s the debate? ---
**Author:** ![JohnnieEnigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dfb087/32.png) [@JohnnieEnigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnnieEnigma)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-is-establishing-universal-healthcare/437074/5 "2008-02-11T00:25:43Z")
[QUOTE=Martin Hyde] That link is four years old. [/QUOTE] :eek: I was duped! ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-is-establishing-universal-healthcare/437074/6 "2008-02-11T00:46:19Z")
[QUOTE=JohnnieEnigma] :eek: I was duped! [/QUOTE] By what, that deceptive date at the top of the page that said _Wednesday, March 03, 2004_? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-is-establishing-universal-healthcare/437074/7 "2008-02-11T00:57:04Z")
This is the second board today where I’ve seen that same link. Wasn’t there another ancient news article that was getting shot around the web a few weeks ago? How does this stuff get started. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_and_a_Half_Inches_of_Fun)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-is-establishing-universal-healthcare/437074/8 "2008-02-11T01:05:10Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] How does this stuff get started. [/QUOTE] A brother and sister from Arkansas start drinking. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-is-establishing-universal-healthcare/437074/9 "2008-02-11T02:30:28Z")
Well, if it actually happened, the subject is still a debatable issue, regardless of the date of the article. Here’s a topic, for those of you who need them spelled out: Is the defense of giving UHC to Iraqis and not Americans that is given in the article valid? > [@](#): > > “Even if you don’t have health insurance,” said Thompson, who toured medical facilities in the Iraqi cities of Baghdad and Tikrit on Saturday and Sunday, “you are still taken care of in America. That certainly could be defined as universal coverage. Every American’s health care is far superior to what the health care is in Iraq.” ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2008, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-is-establishing-universal-healthcare/437074/10 "2008-02-11T20:00:05Z")
Health care in Iraq is terrible for the general population. Hospitals are short of equipment and drugs, doctors have fled the country. It is a mess. Baghdad Hospital an HBO program showed the inside of Iraqi hospital problems.