# Bush jokes about MIA's and WMD's **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 25, 2004, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-jokes-about-mias-and-wmds/236446 "2004-03-25T22:29:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-jokes-about-mias-and-wmds/236446/21 "2004-03-26T01:15:14Z")
Hell, write him a pass on this one. GeeDubya’s handlers have been diligent in crafting an image of easy, down home humor, the kind that befits a man who just come in from clearing brush on the south 2. GeeDubya just ain’t a witty guy. So its entirely possible that he thinks these jokes are funny and maybe even a wee bit daring. Being tone deaf, he can’t hear the sour notes but sings with gusto and a sincere desire to please. Of course, it goes without saying, if the whole issue of WMD’s became something to shrug and chuckle over, he would be a very much happier guy, sense of humor notwithstanding. ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-jokes-about-mias-and-wmds/236446/22 "2004-03-26T01:35:27Z")
link please ---
**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-jokes-about-mias-and-wmds/236446/23 "2004-03-26T01:53:16Z")
> [@SimonX](#): > > link please It’s being reported everywhere and anywhere you look. > [@](#): > > [http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/03/25/bush.broadcasters.ap/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/03/25/bush.broadcasters.ap/index.html) > > Bush put on a slide show, calling it the “White House Election-Year Album” at the Radio and Television Correspondents’ Association 60th annual dinner, showing himself and his staff in some decidedly unflattering poses. > > There was Bush looking under furniture in a fruitless, frustrating search. “Those weapons of mass destruction have got to be somewhere,” he said. Of course it was all just “joking” and should not be taken seriously. Oops, wait a minute > [@](#): > > His slide show segued into a somber ending, showing a group of special forces troops in Afghanistan at the site where they buried a piece of the fallen World Trade Center in commemoration of the dead from Sept. 11. He couldn’t miss a chance to exploit 9/11 a bit more, could he? Let’s face it, the guy’s an asshole with no sense of discretion or propriety. ---
**Author:** ![buttonjockey308](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@buttonjockey308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buttonjockey308)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-jokes-about-mias-and-wmds/236446/24 "2004-03-26T02:21:54Z")
> [@Master Wang-Ka](#): > > Hey, if I was a multimillionaire with incredible temporal and political power who was looking at a good chance of another term in office despite repeatedly lying about what I was doing, abusing my power, enriching my corporate buddies, destroying the economy, erasing thousands of jobs, and getting us into two separate wars… > > …well, I suppose I’d be laughin’, too. “Man, them voters are such _idjits!_ Hyuk, hyuk, hyuk…” Hey, they’re politicians, they lie about everything. Wag the dog was Clinton’s deal. He got us in the crap too, all the while depleting military resources. Every politican enriches their buddies, abuses their power, lies about what they do, and effects the economy (not immediately, but…) ain’t nothin new under the sun. They all believe we’re idiots (ok, by all, I mean 90%). > [@](#): > > Let me see…We have Godwins law…“As a thread grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.” > > Is there a law about how fast a reference to Clinton’s “blowjob” show’s up in a derogatory thread about Bush? Why the “quotes” around blowjob? He got one, from Monica, in the Oval Office, again, no secret. That don’t make him a bad guy, just a bad President, one ought have more decorum than the average thug, being the Leader of the Free World and all. As far as the law goes, let’s just call it Reeders’ Law. > [@](#): > > zwaldd said… > The point is that joking about your mistakes without admitting your mistakes is not self deprecating. Point taken. > [@](#): > > Says Sailor… > Some of the reaction I have seen already has not been so much laughing AT Bush but outrage. The people and countries who opposed the war take this as an arrogant insult: “Yes, I started a war over a lie and now I’ll joke about it and the rest of the world be damned”. What can be gained by this obnoxious and arrogant behavior? Does he really need to create more antagonism? Colin Powell is trying to get Spain to not withdraw its troops from Iraq. Do you think this makes it easier for the new Spanish government to break their promise to the Spanish people? It was a _really_ stupid thing to do and American diplomats now will have to go into damage control mode all over the world. Ok, I’ll go with you on this, if you can cite actual reactions from actual sources, rather than a best guess scenario, or what you think ought to happen. The people and countries who opposed this war will, and rightly so, use any appearance of impropreity to make their case “stronger” as it were, no matter real or percieved. Frankly, I don’t think he’s antagonizing anyone, it’s just how you (or anyone else) choose to see it. It’s either a poor attempt at comedy, or an amusing look at the missteps of the administration, in any case, you find what you look for. Further, although I like the fact that Spain is an ally, I personally couldn’t care less about what the Spanish Government has to do, they’ve got to look out for their interests, we’ve got to look out for ours, it really is that simple. ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-jokes-about-mias-and-wmds/236446/25 "2004-03-26T02:32:43Z")
Let’s be fair here: these dinners have always involved innappropriate humor, in which major figures have made some seriously black jokes about otherwise serious issues. But then, zwaldd does have sort of a good point. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-jokes-about-mias-and-wmds/236446/26 "2004-03-26T03:37:18Z")
> [@buttonjockey308](#): > > \*\*No common sense? No Discretion? Call me when he gets a hummer in the oval office from a low level functionary, and we’ll talk discretion. Yes, because getting a blow job is just so much worse than doling out loads of hot, screaming death. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-jokes-about-mias-and-wmds/236446/27 "2004-03-26T04:35:22Z")
> [@](#): > > Frankly, I don’t think he’s antagonizing anyone, it’s just how you (or anyone else) choose to see it. It’s either a poor attempt at comedy, or an amusing look at the missteps of the administration, in any case, you find what you look for. You didn’t read the part where he basically links European leaders to the famous card deck of Iraqi most wanted criminals? You don’t think that could rub them the wrong way maybe? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-jokes-about-mias-and-wmds/236446/28 "2004-03-26T05:01:06Z")
To be fair, or at least to foster the impression, the joke was he was using them to remember thier names, an obvioius reference to the minor embarassment he suffered as a candidate when the smart ass interviewer asked him if he knew who a bunch of foriegn leaders were. Droll as a bowling ball, maybe, but there you are. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-jokes-about-mias-and-wmds/236446/29 "2004-03-26T08:11:21Z")
Now, I’m certainly no Bush-backer, but I have to say that I don’t think this was particularly offensive or horrifying at all. It’s just a little self-deprecating humor, played for a crowd that’s used to self-deprecation from the POTUS – I’ve got a video from the twilight days of the Clinton Administration, showing Bill putzing about the White House, washing cars, bored as hell, waiting for 1/20/2001 to roll by. There are many legitimate reasons to ding Bush and toss him out come November, but this isn’t one of them. ---
**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-jokes-about-mias-and-wmds/236446/30 "2004-03-26T08:50:59Z")
The problem in this case is that these WMDs were the overriding justification for sending thousands of young men and women to Iraq. A lot of people believed that this war was a just one because of what they’d been told about Hussein’s WMDs. And now it’s just a fundraising joke for his re-election campaign. I don’t find it horrifying or offensive, just very tasteless and not a little depressing. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-jokes-about-mias-and-wmds/236446/31 "2004-03-26T12:31:55Z")
> [@OpalCat](#): > > Yes, because getting a blow job is just so much worse than doling out loads of hot, screaming death. :rolleyes: Due to certain words in the first part, I read the second part as “loads of hot, _creamy_ death.” I should get out of the gutter and go buy some glasses. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-jokes-about-mias-and-wmds/236446/32 "2004-03-26T12:57:11Z")
I didn’t realize it didn’t say “creamy” until your post! ---
**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-jokes-about-mias-and-wmds/236446/33 "2004-03-26T13:18:46Z")
> [@buttonjockey308](#): > > Ok, I’ll go with you on this, if you can cite actual reactions from actual sources, rather than a best guess scenario, or what you think ought to happen. I am in Spain right now and you should see how it is playing here. It is being played over and over without need for much commentary as the people find it in outrageously low taste. To give you an example, last night in a late night program (think Late Night with David Letterman) the host played it without comment several times during the show with huge boos from the audience. Then, near the end, he played it one last time and then said something to the effect of “What I am going to say are my own words and in no way endorsed by the TV network. I take full responsibility for these words: Mr Bush, es usted un hijo de puta” and the crowd roared with applause and approval. He did this knowing it could have serious consequences for him. > [@](#): > > The people and countries who opposed this war will, and rightly so, use any appearance of impropreity to make their case “stronger” as it were, no matter real or percieved. The fact is that the people and countries who opposed the war are offended. What was the need for this? What was gained? Nothing. It plays into the hands of those who do not want their countries to cooperate with the USA. [quote] Frankly, I don’t think he’s antagonizing anyone, it’s just how you (or anyone else) choose to see it. [quote] Come to Spain and tell them that. > [@](#): > > although I like the fact that Spain is an ally, I personally couldn’t care less about what the Spanish Government has to do, they’ve got to look out for their interests, we’ve got to look out for ours, it really is that simple. Yep, and it is in the interests of the USA to have Spain on their side and that is why they are pleading with Spain not to withdraw their troops. What is the purpose of sending Colin Powell to Spain if instead of talking about Iraq he is going to have to apologize for Bush the clown? It is just silly to say “we couldn’t care less about other countries and our president can be as insensitive and as insulting as he wishes” when at the same time you are asking for those countries to help out. Bush is not helping in getting other countries to cooperate but rather he is antagonizing them for no good reason and that is harmful to the interests of America. Right now there is a big debate in Spain regarding the rotation of the troops in Iraq which was (is) due for April 21. Those saying we should withdraw the troops are saying there should be no rotation and just keep the present troops until June 30. The issue of whether the troops should return no matter what or should stay if certain conditions are met is a big topic of discussion here. Colin Powell has already talked with the prime minister elect Zapatero and is trying to work out a way for Spain to keep the troops in Iraq. This type of thing by Bush just makes it more difficult for Zapatero to find a way to do it and it makes it easier for him to say “Spanish public opinion is dead set against it and I have no choice”. And if the USA does not care about what Spain does then I don’t understand why they are putting so much pressure on Spain about this. The fact is they _do_ care and it _is_ important to try to maintain a semblance of international support. And Bush is not helping. ---
**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-jokes-about-mias-and-wmds/236446/34 "2004-03-26T15:44:09Z")
Yes. In the country that capitulated to terrorists. ---
**Author:** ![LordVor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/90ced4/32.png) [@LordVor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LordVor)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-jokes-about-mias-and-wmds/236446/35 "2004-03-26T18:46:08Z")
> [@buttonjockey308](#): > > No common sense? No Discretion? Call me when he gets a hummer in the oval office from a low level functionary, and we’ll talk discretion. Now, if Clinton got a blow job in front of the Radio and Television Correspondents’ Association annual dinner, you may have a point on discretion. If Bush had made that joke in the white house, in relative assumed privacy, I wouldn’t have anything to say about it. But the leader of the free world doesn’t get to go “Whoospy” and then expect people to be able to laugh it off. And, IMHO, he shouldn’t be doing self-effacing humor while he’s still in office. People shouldn’t be given reason to laugh at the President of the United States. -lv ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-jokes-about-mias-and-wmds/236446/36 "2004-03-26T18:59:19Z")
> [@athelas](#): > > Yes. In the country that capitulated to terrorists. Not this again. You have flagged yourself as a blind moron **Athelas**. ---
**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-jokes-about-mias-and-wmds/236446/37 "2004-03-26T19:02:43Z")
> [@athelas](#): > > Yes. In the country that capitulated to terrorists. And finally stood up to the United States the agressors of Iraq. Colin Powell should stop begging for Spanish support. It’s very unbecoming. It’s quite laughable to see the USA saying they don’t care about the rest of the world and will do anything they want and then go around begging for help and support. So what is it? Why doesn’t the USA just ask the Spanish troops to leave Iraq and say “good riddance” to them? Good riddance to Aznar, the puppet who capitulated to the USA against the wishes of the Spanish people. May he burn in hell for having supported the agression to the people of Iraq with whom the Spanish people had no quarrel. May he burn in hell for not having the guts to do his duty and not submit to the American pressure. Finally the will of the people will be done. And if Bush wishes to alienate the Spanish people further with this type of thing I say let him. He is his own worst enemy. No one could make him lose support like he does every time he opens his mouth. I just wish he would stop demanding support from other countries if his country is so great that it need not count on any other country’s help. What a fool. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-jokes-about-mias-and-wmds/236446/38 "2004-03-26T19:13:51Z")
> [@sailor](#): > > And finally stood up to the United States the agressors of Iraq. Colin Powell should stop begging for Spanish support. It’s very unbecoming. It’s quite laughable to see the USA saying they don’t care about the rest of the world and will do anything they want and then go around begging for help and support. So what is it? Why doesn’t the USA just ask the Spanish troops to leave Iraq and say “good riddance” to them? > > Good riddance to Aznar, the puppet who capitulated to the USA against the wishes of the Spanish people. May he burn in hell for having supported the agression to the people of Iraq with whom the Spanish people had no quarrel. May he burn in hell for not having the guts to do his duty and not submit to the American pressure. Finally the will of the people will be done. And if Bush wishes to alienate the Spanish people further with this type of thing I say let him. He is his own worst enemy. No one could make him lose support like he does every time he opens his mouth. I just wish he would stop demanding support from other countries if his country is so great that it need not count on any other country’s help. What a fool. A-fucking-men! ---
**Author:** ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-jokes-about-mias-and-wmds/236446/39 "2004-03-26T19:16:08Z")
> [@athelas](#): > > Yes. In the country that capitulated to terrorists. Fuck off. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-jokes-about-mias-and-wmds/236446/40 "2004-03-26T21:01:23Z")
I suppose now we’ll have preadolescent boys sniggering to one another about the aphrodisiacal effects of “freedom fly”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-jokes-about-mias-and-wmds/236446.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-jokes-about-mias-and-wmds/236446.md?page=3)