# Bush-Kerry Debate: Part Deux

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 9, 2004, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302 "2004-10-09T00:42:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/261 "2004-10-09T01:49:22Z")

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I’m really tired of hearing the word “liberal” treated like a dirty word. I realize that’s how Bush and his group feel about the word but do they reallybelieve that everyone else (especially those undecideds) feel the same way?

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**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/262 "2004-10-09T01:49:36Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> OK, that’s about the third time Bush has talked right over the moderator.
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> This is why I wouldn’t do well running one of those things, I’d be inclined to say something like:
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> “Mr. President, kindly sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up till it’s your turn”.
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> I know, that’s not helpful.

I wish we had Gwen Ifill moderating this time around. She rocks 🙂

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/263 "2004-10-09T01:49:54Z")

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When Bush referred to “Tommy Franks and all the generals on the ground” did anyone else picture high-ranking officers cowering on hands and knees on the carpet while GWB ranted around the Sit Room?

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/264 "2004-10-09T01:50:13Z")

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> [@I Love Me](#):
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> I can’t believe I have to share a country with people like this. Ick.

Well, good way to influence **Random**. I’d _love_ to see some Republican posts in this thread. I can see why they won’t.

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/265 "2004-10-09T01:50:16Z")

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I have a problem with trusting lawyers…especially in multitudes… :dubious:

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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/266 "2004-10-09T01:50:34Z")

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A) Go mod.  
B) Did Bush just slam his Republican (“We approve everything the president proposes”) congress?

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/267 "2004-10-09T01:50:36Z")

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Bush is ranting. Pathetic.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/268 "2004-10-09T01:50:37Z")

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Man. Bush is just getting pecker-slapped on the economy stuff.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/269 "2004-10-09T01:50:42Z")

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> [@Random](#):
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> Sheesh, I know it’s petty of me, but comments like this (and similar fanatic comment from **Reeder** , and from **Diogenes** and others) that no one with two brain cells could vote for Bush make me significantly less likely to vote for Kerry. It’s a scary, almost religious obsession that I don’t want to be associated with.

I didn’t say the Bushites were stupid-I said that they must be despairing that their boy is blowing the debate so badly. If I were on their side, I’d be furious that Bush is running and not Cheney. Don’t lump me with the rabid Lefties–I’d have voted for McCain or any moderate Republican, but Bush is a spectacularly bad president.

Although I did take Dubya’s anti-gay shenanigans personally.

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**Author:** ![Julius\_Henry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@Julius\_Henry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Julius_Henry)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/270 "2004-10-09T01:51:03Z")

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Guys, Charlie asked how you would cut the deficit. Any reason neither of you could answer that one?

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**Author:** ![katie1341](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/91b2a8/32.png) [@katie1341](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/katie1341)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/271 "2004-10-09T01:51:19Z")

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Kerry says ENRON! Woohoo!

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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/272 "2004-10-09T01:51:57Z")

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Loooook into the camera, Lick those pretty pink lips…oooh yeah baby… Now bark. “Woof”. I like that. 😃

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/273 "2004-10-09T01:51:58Z")

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“Tax cuts to Enron…” I’d LOVE to see Bush defend THAT one.

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**Author:** ![TheVincent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3ab097/32.png) [@TheVincent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheVincent)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/274 "2004-10-09T01:51:59Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> Man. Bush is just getting pecker-slapped on the economy stuff.

I believe the correct term is “smurfed.” :dubious:

Ooh, Kerry’s speaking directly at the camera. Work it!

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/275 "2004-10-09T01:52:16Z")

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> [@katie1341](#):
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> Kerry says ENRON! Woohoo!

Is that a drain the glass?

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/276 "2004-10-09T01:52:23Z")

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Heh… “Look straight into the camera…” I love it!

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**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/277 "2004-10-09T01:52:25Z")

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Good Kerry looking into the camera thing. But, while Bush isn’t doing all that great, Kerry is still making too many set speeches.

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**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/278 "2004-10-09T01:52:36Z")

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Bush is writing …I’m rubber you’re glue …

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**Author:** ![Monocracy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monocracy/32/4493_2.png) [@Monocracy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monocracy)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/279 "2004-10-09T01:52:41Z")

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Why does Kerry keep saying “ladies and gentlemen”? Is he doing his Rush impersonation?

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**Author:** ![Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Random)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/280 "2004-10-09T01:53:17Z")

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> [@I Love Me](#):
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> It’s worse then just ‘petty’ of you, it’s idiotic.
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> It shouldn’t matter WHAT Kerry supports say on an internet(s) message board. Be your own man (or woman) and vote on the issues. Not on **Reeder’s** or **Dio’s** perceived putdowns.
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> Man, I hate it when people decide their votes this way! _Someone_ doesn’t have two brain cells to rub together… that is certain.
> 
> Somebody stated a thread voicing these same ridiculous ideas a month or two ago. Was that you?
> 
> I can’t believe I have to share a country with people like this. Ick.

Yup, I want to be in your party.

You just have no clue how to convince someone who doesn’t share your simplistic, fanatic views. A candidate (and his supporters) have to do more than say “I’m not the other guy! He’s evil! I’ve got a plan!” Tell\*\* us what you’d do differently. Don’t repetitively chant the same, content-free refrain about the nastiness and stupidity of people who aren’t in lockstep with your religion.

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