# Bush-Kerry Debate: Part Deux

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 9, 2004, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302 "2004-10-09T00:42:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/321 "2004-10-09T01:59:14Z")

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“Acres and acres have been burned in the west.”

Acres and acres huh?

What’s that? 500? 1000?

Try miles and miles…but I’m sure he doesn’t care. We’re all a bunch of dirty liberals out here.

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**Author:** ![TheVincent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3ab097/32.png) [@TheVincent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheVincent)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/322 "2004-10-09T01:59:28Z")

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Kerry is just serving Bush with these little one liners.

Now all we need is a dance-off. OR!.. BREAK DANCE FIGHTING!

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**Author:** ![fruitbat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fruitbat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fruitbat)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/323 "2004-10-09T01:59:31Z")

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He jumped right on the offroad diesel engines bit. Does that mean he regulated ATVs. Man your record can’t be good when that is the first thing you have to cite.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/324 "2004-10-09T01:59:46Z")

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Bush a “good steward of the land”? Oh, my aching sides!

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/325 "2004-10-09T01:59:48Z")

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Bush is rebutting Kerry just by repeatedly saying “he’s voted to raise taxes over and over again! he’s a big lying liar and a poopyhead!”.  
And now he’s talking about being a “good steward of the land”? That’s a crock of … Water quality has increased? That’s not what I heard. All his environmental programs are thinly disguised ways to destroy the environment. Go get him, Kerry!

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/326 "2004-10-09T02:00:01Z")

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Orwellian!

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**Author:** ![presidebt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c37758/32.png) [@presidebt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/presidebt)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/327 "2004-10-09T02:00:02Z")

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He said Orwellian names! Good lord, I need to change my panties.

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**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/328 "2004-10-09T02:00:14Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Bush says he’s going to increase the wetlands by three million. Three million what? Dollars? Acres? Ducks?

Ahahaha! On the UnaBoard I just tapped out:

“Increase wetlands to three million? Three million what? Acres? Dollars? Gallons?”

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/329 "2004-10-09T02:00:14Z")

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I’m coming down with something nasty, so I’m having trouble concentrating on…anything tonight. Did I hallucinate or did Bush say something about battling eye shadows and Kerry vow not to raise taxes? I must have imagined those things, they’re both so absurd.

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**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/330 "2004-10-09T02:00:20Z")

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Orwellian labels? _POW_

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/331 "2004-10-09T02:00:21Z")

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Hmm, there’s somewhat of a reference to Kyoto from Kerry. And Bush just brought it up as I was typing about Kerry.

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**Author:** ![Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Random)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/332 "2004-10-09T02:00:22Z")

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> [@I Love Me](#):
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> See-- that’s exactly my point. It shouldn’t matter what I or anyone else says on this board. Vote based on what Kerry and Bush say-- not me.

You’re missing the full point. Kerry himself doesn’t adequately explain why he would be better. True, he doesn’t foam at the mouth (like some of his less polished supporters), but his basic theme remains “I’m not Bush!”

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**Author:** ![TheVincent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3ab097/32.png) [@TheVincent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheVincent)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/333 "2004-10-09T02:00:33Z")

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Gasp! Kyoto!

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**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/334 "2004-10-09T02:00:33Z")

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I LIKE the science reference by Kerry - Bush is not that intellectuable 😃

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/335 "2004-10-09T02:01:04Z")

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I love the jabs about “believing in science.”

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/336 "2004-10-09T02:01:09Z")

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“it would have cost America a lot of jobs.”

Like the outsourcing epidemic hasn’t?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/337 "2004-10-09T02:01:22Z")

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Kerry said “Orwellian.” By my count, that’s the first literary reference from either candidate. Kerry gets my vote by default.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/338 "2004-10-09T02:01:40Z")

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> [@I Love Me](#):
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> Does what I say on this board tonight really influence you in any way whatsoever on how you will vote? Do you care what I think about you? Will you vote for Bush just to “show” me? If so, then you are pathetic. If not, drop it and vote on the issues.

When you talk to your friends and family members who disagree with you politically, is this the tack you take? You want to convert them, don’t you? Does that attitude work well with them?

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/339 "2004-10-09T02:01:41Z")

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Come on Kerry. Get specific!! Say something about your plan, not just that it is better!! :mad:

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/340 "2004-10-09T02:02:18Z")

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> [@Random](#):
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> You’re missing the full point. Kerry himself doesn’t adequately explain why he would be better. True, he doesn’t foam at the mouth (like some of his less polished supporters), but his basic theme remains “I’m not Bush!”

That’s good enough for me.

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