# Bush-Kerry Debate: Part Deux

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 9, 2004, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302 "2004-10-09T00:42:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/401 "2004-10-09T02:14:16Z")

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Why isn’t anyone asking Bush or Kerry for their opinon on the Deisgnated Hitter?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/402 "2004-10-09T02:14:35Z")

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So how does stem cell research destroy life?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/403 "2004-10-09T02:14:46Z")

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We destroy embryos to create…erm, stem cells, and I’m the first president to authorize funding for…erm, stem cells…and that’s because I have hope, too, for…erm, stem cells…

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**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/404 "2004-10-09T02:15:01Z")

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The stem cell thing is actually something I agree with Bush with, but it was the best explanation I’ve heard from Kerry of his position. I can’t agree with it but I respect it.

Chris Reeve, though, makes me think of him in SOUTH PARK snapping off fetus’ heads and sucking their cells.

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**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/405 "2004-10-09T02:15:04Z")

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> I was about to give Kerry points for the stem cell answer, but he lost me with the cites to Michael J. Fox and Chris Reeves.

What’s wrong with putting faces on the affliction?

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**Author:** ![supervenusfreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@supervenusfreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/supervenusfreak)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/406 "2004-10-09T02:15:30Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> So how does stem cell research destroy life?

It doesn’t and never has.

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**Author:** ![Julius\_Henry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@Julius\_Henry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Julius_Henry)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/407 "2004-10-09T02:15:38Z")

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Was Bush trying to find Charlie?

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**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/408 "2004-10-09T02:15:47Z")

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OK. My freshman English students sound better-informed, more reasonable, and generally smarter than Bush when they make speeches on stem-cell research. And considering that they’re eighteen-year-olds in the Bible Belt with zero public speaking experience, that is SCARY.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/409 "2004-10-09T02:15:49Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> Man, FUCK the Yankees, man!

If I get dibs on Mike Piazza and Derek Jeter, count me in!

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/410 "2004-10-09T02:16:05Z")

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> [@Reeder](#):
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> Surely you have a credible site?

My company of 12 years is my site…stop by sometime when in Cali.

Actually, I have 2 sites…

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/411 "2004-10-09T02:16:14Z")

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That was a nice ripost by Kerry about Bush waffling on the stem cell lines. Also good for Kerry for pointing out how inadequate the lines are.

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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/412 "2004-10-09T02:16:17Z")

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Now THAT, my friends, would a good question.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/413 "2004-10-09T02:16:25Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> So how does stem cell research destroy life?

It’s a religious right issue mainly. Kind of a “when does life begin” question.

With all this talk about waffles, I want breakfast. Who’s up for a trip to the flap jack shack 🙂

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/414 "2004-10-09T02:17:00Z")

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Bush is looking EXTREMELY irritated.

“Destroy life…” Didn’t Kerry already point out that many came from fertility clinics?

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**Author:** ![Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Random)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/415 "2004-10-09T02:17:20Z")

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> [@Patty O'Furniture](#):
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> What’s wrong with putting faces on the affliction?

Not a bad point, but he (at least with respect to Fox) cited to his opinion, not his condition,

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**Author:** ![shy\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@shy\_guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shy_guy)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/416 "2004-10-09T02:17:28Z")

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**Dredd Scott**?! What the _fuck_ is he even talking about?

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**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/417 "2004-10-09T02:17:31Z")

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Thank ERIS Bush is against slavery. It is about time someone took the stance!

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**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/418 "2004-10-09T02:17:32Z")

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What kind of Supreme Court Justice would BUSH nominate?  
The kind that got him e;ected - Scallia ?? remember ??

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/419 "2004-10-09T02:17:33Z")

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> [@gobear](#):
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> If I get dibs on Mike Piazza and Derek Jeter, count me in!

Uhh, Piazza plays for the Mets.

Anyway, was the Dred Scott decision really the best choice for an example?

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**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/420 "2004-10-09T02:17:39Z")

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Whoa, whoa, whoa. Did he just compare dropping “Under God” from the Pledge of Allegiance with SLAVERY?

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