# Bush-Kerry Debate: Part Deux **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 9, 2004, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302 "2004-10-09T00:42:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/461 "2004-10-09T02:23:28Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Lumber company question? _Escaton_ caught it! El-linko, please. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/462 "2004-10-09T02:23:32Z")
There is no such thing as “partial-birth abortion.” ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/463 "2004-10-09T02:23:31Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Lumber company question? _Escaton_ caught it! > > Love that internet! Thank you, Mr. Gore! What is Escaton? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/464 "2004-10-09T02:23:42Z")
“reasonable ways to help promote a culture of life in America.” Well, except for that Texas death penalty thing… ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/465 "2004-10-09T02:23:54Z")
Eeeewww, that blonde chick has this fawning look on her face as Bush answers her question. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/466 "2004-10-09T02:24:18Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Bush is looking EXTREMELY irritated. > > “Destroy life…” Didn’t Kerry already point out that many came from fertility clinics? I’m not sure what your point is. They’re just as alive (but let’s not debate _how_ alive that is. There are too many threads on that already) as a zygote in a woman is at the same stage of development, so where they come from isn’t likely to sway ultraprolife people much. They’re as likely to be pissed at someone for getting rid of them by defrosting them and pouring them down the drain after \_\_ time being abandoned by their “parents” as to do research with them. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/467 "2004-10-09T02:24:31Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Yeah, correct me if I’m wrong, but Dredd Scott wasn’t about slavery being okay because of property rights. It was that a slave had no rights under the Constitution to sue, because he or she was considered property. A small, but important difference. Wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong. ---
**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/468 "2004-10-09T02:24:39Z")
Bush is emphatically pro-life - until you become 19 and get sent to Iraq to die - by someone who is pro-life !!! ---
**Author:** ![TheVincent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3ab097/32.png) [@TheVincent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheVincent)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/469 "2004-10-09T02:24:55Z")
Bush totally realized his mistake in the middle of his sentence. Beautiful. “You can run, but you can’t hide.” _takes a swig of soda, cuz there’s no alcahol around_ ---
**Author:** ![Dignan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f07891/32.png) [@Dignan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dignan)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/470 "2004-10-09T02:25:12Z")
Yes, we need laws to protect children until birth. After that, they’re on their own. They don’t need insurance, or fully funded schools, or jobs if they ever graduate. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/471 "2004-10-09T02:25:16Z")
Is Bush wishy-washy? Let’s find out! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/472 "2004-10-09T02:25:16Z")
> [@Gangster Octopus](#): > > What is Escaton? Sorry. [http://atrios.blogspot.com/](http://atrios.blogspot.com/) ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/473 "2004-10-09T02:25:30Z")
“Wrong decisions” Talk about a loaded question! ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/474 "2004-10-09T02:25:38Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > There is no such thing as “partial-birth abortion.” That’s a rather startling statement. What have we been talking about when we use this phrase? ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/475 "2004-10-09T02:25:41Z")
Wow, this last question is awful. I like the concept, but the whole “name three times”. Ugghh. Sounds like my last job interview. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/476 "2004-10-09T02:25:59Z")
No, asshole, he voted no a bill which sought to brutalize women by forcing them to carry pregnancies which endangered their health. The federal courts have all agreed that your abortion ban is too overreaching. ---
**Author:** ![The\_world\_s\_most\_deadliest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@The\_world\_s\_most\_deadliest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_world_s_most_deadliest)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/477 "2004-10-09T02:26:10Z")
Ooooh, yes, Mr. Bush, tell us three times you came to the realization you were wrong. Please. Good question! (And good on the mods for letting it through!) It sounds like he’s completely avoiding answering it though. ---
**Author:** ![snermy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@snermy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snermy)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/478 "2004-10-09T02:26:16Z")
> [@Kerry](#): > > It’s never quite a simple as the President wants you to believe A-freaking-Men ---
**Author:** ![presidebt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c37758/32.png) [@presidebt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/presidebt)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/479 "2004-10-09T02:26:18Z")
Kerry made some good points on the abortion question–some points that have needed to be said, btw–but it looks like he blew it. I support a woman’s right to choose but I don’t think the federal government should be paying for it. It’s easy enough to have a policy that money won’t be spent on abortion, but that federal money will not be withheld from agencies that provide pregnancy prevention, i.e. birth control. That would have the perfect chance to invite pro-lifers who don’t want to vote for Bush because for other reasons. I bet there are more than you’d think. ---
**Author:** ![ouisey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/9fc29f/32.png) [@ouisey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouisey)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/480 "2004-10-09T02:26:21Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Did he just say “Terrorist fighters?” > > That doesn’t even make sense! > So how drunk is everyone here? Im’ SOOOO drunk, God bless straight dope. Debates are much more fun with lush hints of butter, ripe apple and pear thx 2003 Clos du Bois, thx. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302.md?page=23) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302.md?page=25)