# Bush-Kerry Debate: Part Deux

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 9, 2004, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302 "2004-10-09T00:42:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Julius\_Henry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@Julius\_Henry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Julius_Henry)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/521 "2004-10-09T02:34:03Z")

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> [@Brutus](#):
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> Missouri, you are God-awfully frumpy and poorly dressed. And for Pete’s sake, stop slouching on national television!

We’re just more relaxed than you Cocytusians.

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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/522 "2004-10-09T02:34:09Z")

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There’s a woman picking her teeth while Bush talks… I understand ya sister.  
Watch out for them “haters”.

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**Author:** ![whistlepig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/73ab20/32.png) [@whistlepig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whistlepig)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/523 "2004-10-09T02:34:17Z")

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Bush closing reply, God cites = 1

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**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/524 "2004-10-09T02:34:25Z")

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> [@Random](#):
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> True, he doesn’t foam at the mouth (like some of his less polished supporters), but his basic theme remains “I’m not Bush!”

That is a very strong selling point with most rational voters.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/525 "2004-10-09T02:34:42Z")

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Well, Bush didn’t sound like quite the idiot he did last time.

On questions answered, I give it a push. But on rebuttals, I gotta give it to Kerry. I think he responded better to what had been said, although they both gave adequate “speeches”.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/526 "2004-10-09T02:34:52Z")

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> [@Brutus](#):
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> I’m off to play some _IL2:Sturmovik_, so you will have to operate without the benefit of my wisdom tonight (Just presume that I completely agree with \*\*Diogenes \*\* again)

I just fell off of my chair. Who are you and what have you done with **Brutus**?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/527 "2004-10-09T02:34:53Z")

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In which edition of the American Heritage Dictionary is “Nexus” defined as “Great Threat”?

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**Author:** ![kka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/54ee81/32.png) [@kka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kka)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/528 "2004-10-09T02:35:04Z")

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I can’t believe Bush had to reach back to the Dred Scott decisionand said he had no litmus test for Supreme Court Justices.  
Yeah right.

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**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/529 "2004-10-09T02:35:09Z")

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If he says “God Bless” instead of “God Bless America,” do we take 2/3 of a drink?

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/530 "2004-10-09T02:35:25Z")

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Well, the debate is winding down. My assessment: they both did well.

I await to see what the polls say about this one. I think it’ll be a tougher one to call because Bush didn’t so obviously **SUCK** this time.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/531 "2004-10-09T02:35:28Z")

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Bush looks pumped - he did do much better tonight. I give it to Kerry by a narrow margin, but that may just be my bias showing.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/532 "2004-10-09T02:35:59Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> I just fell off of my chair. Who are you and what have you done with **Brutus**?

He’s obviously been playing BOTH candidates’ drinking games tonight and has absolutely no idea what he’s saying…

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/533 "2004-10-09T02:36:09Z")

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> [@Frostillicus](#):
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> That is a very strong selling point with most rational voters.

:dubious:

I’ll just bypass the “rational” remark and stick to the issue at hand. There are a fair amount of undecided voters who want to hear specifics from Kerry, not just “I have a plan.”

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/534 "2004-10-09T02:36:09Z")

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Thank you, for correcting me on Dred Scott.

**Bricker** , nope, that’s not the same. No doctors perform a procedure called “partial birth abortion.” It’s correct term is, as was said, “intact dilation and extraction.”

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/535 "2004-10-09T02:36:22Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> By that logic, there is no such thing as an abortion, period.

Are you saying that doctors never use the term “abortion.”

I guarantee you they don’t say “partial-birth abortion” and never have.

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/536 "2004-10-09T02:36:24Z")

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Nothing on addressing illegal immigration and the implications on the whole nation, from either Bush or Kerry.

Oh, right…this is Missoura, no illegals here. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/537 "2004-10-09T02:36:29Z")

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> [@Fretful Porpentine](#):
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> If he says “God Bless” instead of “God Bless America,” do we take 2/3 of a drink?

Why quibble. Chug!

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**Author:** ![Julius\_Henry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@Julius\_Henry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Julius_Henry)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/538 "2004-10-09T02:36:33Z")

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I really hope \*The Daily Show \* won’t be doing reruns next week. They are going to have a field day with this one.

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/539 "2004-10-09T02:36:38Z")

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I get the feeling that Bush prepared for this debate by just memorizing his own anti-Kerry campaign commercials.

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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/540 "2004-10-09T02:37:34Z")

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> [@gobear](#):
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> **Bricker** right–_Dred Scott v Sandford_ hinged on the property rights of slaveholders being infringed without due process. Google Substantive Due Process for more info.

But the president said nothing even remotely to do with substantive due process, what he said was:  
“The Constitution of the United States says we’re all – you know, it doesn’t say that. It doesn’t speak to the equality of America.”

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