# Bush-Kerry Debate: Part Deux

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 9, 2004, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302 "2004-10-09T00:42:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/41 "2004-10-09T01:11:28Z")

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9/11

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9/11

9/11!!![/

Bush seems to be taking these questions hard. Getting pretty angry.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/42 "2004-10-09T01:12:04Z")

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Shrub is trying WAAAAYYY too hard. His arm waving looks affected and distracting. He looks like he’s doing dinner theater.

Kerry sems a little bit snooze inducing tonight.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/43 "2004-10-09T01:12:08Z")

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> [@stpauler](#):
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> Awww, C-SPAN2 isn’t showing the candidates simultaneously… Is there a channel that is?

ABC is using a split-screen. Fox is using a wide shot that gets both candidates, but they switch to closer shots occasionally. NBC appears to be doing what CSPAN is doing, which is mostly following the person speaking. Same for CBS. Looks the same for CNN. I think MSNBC is mostly using a wide shot. I think Fox News is doing the same as Fox over-the-air.

These were all current when I typed them in. A quick check shows that ABC got off the split screen and is switching between a wide shot and a close shot. Now back to the split screen.

You know, I’m gonna give up. But here’s an attempt of what appears to be happening.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/44 "2004-10-09T01:12:27Z")

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There’s the smirk! Hurrah!

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**Author:** ![katie1341](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/91b2a8/32.png) [@katie1341](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/katie1341)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/45 "2004-10-09T01:12:28Z")

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I just want to say that the simultaneous debate threads are SO worth the $4.95!

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/46 "2004-10-09T01:12:57Z")

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Maybe his head will explode, like Scanners. That would be cool.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/47 "2004-10-09T01:13:06Z")

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20 min. in and Kerry’s on fire!

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/48 "2004-10-09T01:13:08Z")

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foot tapping!!! foot tapping!!!

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/49 "2004-10-09T01:13:30Z")

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Does hearsay evidence have a place in a debate?

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/50 "2004-10-09T01:13:34Z")

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> [@stpauler](#):
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> Ok, are these really the faces of undecided voices? Scary.

They all look mildly terrified, don’t they? We don’t see all the Secret Service with assault rifles behind the scenes.

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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/51 "2004-10-09T01:14:08Z")

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> [@asterion](#):
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> ABC is using a split-screen. Fox is using a wide shot that gets both candidates, but they switch to closer shots occasionally. NBC appears to be doing what CSPAN is doing, which is mostly following the person speaking. Same for CBS. Looks the same for CNN. I think MSNBC is mostly using a wide shot. I think Fox News is doing the same as Fox over-the-air.  
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Sure, the only one doing the split screen is the one is showing baseball. D’oh!

Thanks for checking!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/52 "2004-10-09T01:14:14Z")

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Got $.25 that Kerry was just _hoping_ he would say “Bush Plan”

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/53 "2004-10-09T01:14:18Z")

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“I know how these people think” rears its ugly head again.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/54 "2004-10-09T01:14:31Z")

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Actually, I still think that Bush will do far better in this one. He can get up from behind a lectern, move around, look at the people in the audience. It’s been my opinion that Bush is at his best when he can do that.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/55 "2004-10-09T01:14:41Z")

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Tora Bora

:drink:

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/56 "2004-10-09T01:14:52Z")

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WRONG WAR!

glug  
60 second warning three times. y’know, the server is just too darn fast now

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/57 "2004-10-09T01:14:59Z")

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Bush keeps giving Kerry a look that says “Wow! That’s a good idea!”

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**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/58 "2004-10-09T01:15:26Z")

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He talks to Tony Blair?!? Wow, got my vote.

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/59 "2004-10-09T01:15:50Z")

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Notice there is no bulge this time.

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**Author:** ![TheVincent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3ab097/32.png) [@TheVincent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheVincent)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/60 "2004-10-09T01:15:55Z")

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Ouch, Bush had a good one on the “right war.”

These independent voters give everyone else a bad name.

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