# Bush-Kerry Debate: Part Deux **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 9, 2004, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302 "2004-10-09T00:42:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![5que](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/3bc359/32.png) [@5que](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5que)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/61 "2004-10-09T01:16:34Z")
“We got a great country.” Well, Bush wins. ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/62 "2004-10-09T01:16:34Z")
Hell, if Bush’s values are america’s values, _ **I** _ don’t understand them. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/63 "2004-10-09T01:16:47Z")
Hmm, I wonder how the attempt to make a comparision to Reagan will play? ---
**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/64 "2004-10-09T01:17:26Z")
Reagan, eh? > [@Ronald Reagan](#): > > Are you better off now than you were four years ago? Wrong guy to cite, kiddo. ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/65 "2004-10-09T01:17:31Z")
I want someone to ask “How did Saddam directly threaten our country?” ---
**Author:** ![TheVincent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3ab097/32.png) [@TheVincent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheVincent)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/66 "2004-10-09T01:17:36Z")
I just spotted a few nice little holes where Kerry can throw some grenades in. I hope he notices them as well. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/67 "2004-10-09T01:18:01Z")
“I love America, I love it’s values. I realize I have made some decisions that may have made some people not understand those values.” What the hell? ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/68 "2004-10-09T01:18:06Z")
Bushism: “Unaccounted judge.” ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/69 "2004-10-09T01:18:34Z")
Why is not signing up for the ICC a good thing? Is there a reason at all if defense of this? ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/70 "2004-10-09T01:18:54Z")
Is it just me…or does Bush of a hint of desperation in his voice? ---
**Author:** ![Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Random)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/71 "2004-10-09T01:19:13Z")
> [@erislover](#): > > Reagan, eh?Wrong guy to cite, kiddo. Are you forgetting that Reagan won easily? Cites to RR may not resonate with you, but he’s not trying to appeal to your demographic. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/72 "2004-10-09T01:19:14Z")
> [@Wile E](#): > > “I love America, I love it’s values. I realize I have made some decisions that may have made some people not understand those values.” > > What the hell? What language was that?? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/73 "2004-10-09T01:19:16Z")
Is Bush deliberately dumbing down? Or is he that simple-minded? Or he thinks we are? ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/74 "2004-10-09T01:19:26Z")
> [@Harborwolf](#): > > Why is not signing up for the ICC a good thing? Is there a reason at all if defense of this? Who would want accountability when hegemony is so pretty? ---
**Author:** ![PsychoBabble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/47e85d/32.png) [@PsychoBabble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PsychoBabble)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/75 "2004-10-09T01:19:28Z")
I just wanted to say that my supervisor is there and I’ve seen him on TV 3 times!! I’m so proud. Ok, now back regularly scheduled bashing… ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/76 "2004-10-09T01:19:37Z")
> [@Harborwolf](#): > > Why is not signing up for the ICC a good thing? Is there a reason at all if defense of this? Varying degrees of sovereignity and isolationism, depending who you’re asking. ---
**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/77 "2004-10-09T01:19:39Z")
I like that Kerry is pushing the “more of the same” remarks as a rebuttal to Bush’s “I stand firm.” I hope many, many swing voters think about that remark. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/78 "2004-10-09T01:20:26Z")
> [@Harborwolf](#): > > Why is not signing up for the ICC a good thing? Is there a reason at all if defense of this? There are good arguments both ways. I don’t think that this would be a good place to try to lay them out. (Plus I’m sure there are old threads in GD on it.) ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/79 "2004-10-09T01:20:29Z")
Blaming the generals now? The buck stops there, Mr. pResident. ---
**Author:** ![Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Random)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302/80 "2004-10-09T01:20:32Z")
I thought Kerry won the first debate fairly handily. Bush is doing better in this one. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-part-deux/268302.md?page=5)