# Bush-Kerry Debate: Watch Along Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-watch-along-thread/266963>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 1, 2004, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-watch-along-thread/266963 "2004-10-01T00:58:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-watch-along-thread/266963/261 "2004-10-01T02:22:54Z")

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I think “mexed missages” will get **much** more play until the next debate.

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**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-watch-along-thread/266963/262 "2004-10-01T02:23:13Z")

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I can’t wait for SNL this weekend!

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**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-watch-along-thread/266963/263 "2004-10-01T02:23:15Z")

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“Just because he said **mission accomplished** …”

Drink/

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**Author:** ![if6was9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@if6was9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/if6was9)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-watch-along-thread/266963/264 "2004-10-01T02:24:33Z")

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I’m WAY partial here… does anyone else see Bush squirming embarrassingly and Kerry confident and attacking?

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-watch-along-thread/266963/265 "2004-10-01T02:24:49Z")

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As a former high school debate competitor myself, I believe the Senator is winning on points.

I do NOT think the sniggering here about “nuclear” is relevant, however. Nor do I believe this debate performance will swing the polls the other way.

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**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-watch-along-thread/266963/266 "2004-10-01T02:25:08Z")

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Did Kerry fix his hair or am I just getting used to it?

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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-watch-along-thread/266963/267 "2004-10-01T02:25:19Z")

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> [@Patty O'Furniture](#):
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> That’s the closest we’ll get to a sound bite tonight. The next DNC commercial should be nothing but Bush-moments like this strung together. Would probably be a 5 minute commercial.

The rules of the debate say that neither side can use debate footage in their campaign ads. "Neither film footage nor video footage nor any audio excerpts from the debates may be used publicly by either candidate’s campaign through any means, including but not limited to, radio, television, internet, or videotapes, whether broadcast or distributed in any other manner. "

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**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-watch-along-thread/266963/268 "2004-10-01T02:25:22Z")

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Oy!

**twists open the top of the gin bottle with such force that it flies off and rolls under the sofa… no matter… won’t need the top again tonight anyways…**

So… who’s up for founding a third major political party?

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**Author:** ![Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Random)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-watch-along-thread/266963/269 "2004-10-01T02:25:38Z")

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So Kerry thinks that Bush should have done more to bring in other nations in Iraq, but that he’s including too many other countries in the Korea negotiations? Huh?

Kerry’s definitely more articulate at the moment, but his suggested Korea policy makes no sense. We tried bilateral agreements. NK violated them.

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**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-watch-along-thread/266963/270 "2004-10-01T02:25:51Z")

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I wonder how many Purple Hearts Kerry will apply for as Commander in Chief.

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**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-watch-along-thread/266963/271 "2004-10-01T02:25:55Z")

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Points to Kerry on “war not as a last resort” mention . . .

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-watch-along-thread/266963/272 "2004-10-01T02:26:11Z")

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I actually expected Bush to look a lot better in the debate than he has. I am really surprised that he has been as stuttering and pausey has he has.

The future belongs to freedom

:drink:

Gonna be too wasted for the daily show.

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-watch-along-thread/266963/273 "2004-10-01T02:27:14Z")

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bush debunked the draft, “an all volunteer millitary”

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-watch-along-thread/266963/274 "2004-10-01T02:27:30Z")

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> [@Bruce\_Daddy](#):
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> I owe you a coke. Or a beer.
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> :drinks:

Make it a coke-Ritalin don’t mix with booze.

Bush: “I don’t take it personally!” Meanwhile, he’s already planning to have the Secret Service take Barney over to Kerry’s lawn for his morning walk.

You know, Bush is kinda cute, in that little stuffed animal way. “Aaawwww!”

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**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-watch-along-thread/266963/275 "2004-10-01T02:27:42Z")

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> [@fessie](#):
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> Is it just me, or are these debates more substantive and direct than others have been? Maybe it’s Lehrer’s questioning, but it seems like there have been fewer vague platitudes.

There are important distinctions between the President’s view of foreign policy and the one which Kerry has adopted this week, so there’s more substance.

Wait till the domestic policy debate: “I’m against gay marriage but against the amendment” “I’m against gay marriage but think people should decide, not judges.”  
“He decreased the Veteran’s budget from the baseline set in 1998.” “I increased actual Veteran’s funding.” “He increased the deficit.” “You should see what it’ll look like if he actually gets elected and fulfills all those promises.”

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Bruce\_Daddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Daddy)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-watch-along-thread/266963/276 "2004-10-01T02:27:52Z")

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Kerry wins. Not big, but wins.

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**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-watch-along-thread/266963/277 "2004-10-01T02:28:12Z")

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VLA! DUH! MEER! Jesus Kee-rist!

Good if bland closing statement from Kerry.

Bush closing–he’s much better not speaking off-the-cuff. Wait–the military is not all-volunteer now? Smart-Kerry’s nodding along to the no Frenchies gonna tell us what to do stuff. The broader Middle East idea is a good one, although I think Kerry will do it better now. Hey, Martin Luther Bush. Not too bad overall.

Alleluia, it’s over!

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**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-watch-along-thread/266963/278 "2004-10-01T02:28:22Z")

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“I’ve climbed the mighty mountain, and we’ve seen the valley below, and it’s a valley of peace.”

That’s not part of the drinking game, but I gotta’ knock off the rest of the beer for that.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-watch-along-thread/266963/279 "2004-10-01T02:29:07Z")

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I mjade if an I;n stmill sdoper.

_Barf_

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Bruce\_Daddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Daddy)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-kerry-debate-watch-along-thread/266963/280 "2004-10-01T02:29:07Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Make it a coke-Ritalin don’t mix with booze.

It’s fine if you don’t mix in pop-rocks.

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