# Bush: PATRIOT act restrictions don't apply to me

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 24, 2006, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-patriot-act-restrictions-dont-apply-to-me/349750 "2006-03-24T18:25:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2006, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-patriot-act-restrictions-dont-apply-to-me/349750/41 "2006-03-26T18:09:39Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Can Congress pass a law requiring the President to limit his pardons to those people approved by a joint Congressional committee?
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> Why not?

Did you notice that Hamlet said, above, the he mistakenly wrote “plenary” instead of “non-plenary” in the post you just quoted? I don’t think your question is relavent in light of that correction.

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-patriot-act-restrictions-dont-apply-to-me/349750/42 "2006-03-28T14:35:07Z")

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> [@rjung](#):
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> Try to imagine folks like Tom DeLay, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly, **Shodan,** or **UncleBeer** arguing that Bill Clinton should’ve had the level of secrecy and unchecked executive power we’ve seen in the last five years. Yeah, me neither.
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> The only principles the GOP has nowadays is “Power at any cost.”

Ohhh, lookie! Scarecrows. Nice strawman, dipshit.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-patriot-act-restrictions-dont-apply-to-me/349750/43 "2006-03-28T16:25:17Z")

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> [@John Mace](#):
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> **bup** : Can you cite the specific legislation you’re talking about

Well, what about the Freedom of Information Act itself? It specifies that the federal government has to release documents, except as they fit into nine exemptions. Congress had the power to enact the FOIA.

And, because it should come up, and will - certain provisions of Bush’ signing statement are not covered by the FOIA exemptions - for instance, information that would interfere with “the deliberative processes of the Executive,” or, for that matter, a _carte blanche_ on national security and foreign relations - the FOIA specifically only protects \*classified \* documents that fit into that category.

[FOIA](http://www.bop.gov/foia/)

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-patriot-act-restrictions-dont-apply-to-me/349750/44 "2006-03-28T20:29:58Z")

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> [@UncleBeer](#):
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> Nice strawman, dipshit.

Why’d you think I said “imagine”?

And I notice you dodged the point of the message – namely, that the odds of you hypothetically stepping up to the plate for Slick Willie to have as much unchecked executive power as GWB has claimed are right up there with Michael Jackson getting appointed to lead the Department of Health and Human Services.

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-patriot-act-restrictions-dont-apply-to-me/349750/45 "2006-03-28T22:38:45Z")

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> [@rjung](#):
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> And I notice you dodged the point of the message

I dodged a strawman? Yay, me.

Dipshit.

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