# Bush Press Conference: I couldn't take it anymore...

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 14, 2004, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-press-conference-i-couldnt-take-it-anymore/239888 "2004-04-14T01:10:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2004, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-press-conference-i-couldnt-take-it-anymore/239888/41 "2004-04-14T02:49:23Z")

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Did anyone else notice all the random grunting the president did tonight? Whenever anyone asking a question paused for a moment, Dubya would let out an ape-like grunt.

Now I’ve heard him compared to a monkey before, and I’ve seen photos where he indeed resembles one. But those were ape-grunts tonight, I’m sure. Apes are different from monkeys, right? So which it?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2004, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-press-conference-i-couldnt-take-it-anymore/239888/42 "2004-04-14T02:52:44Z")

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> [@I Love Me](#):
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> Did anyone else notice all the random grunting the president did tonight? Whenever anyone asking a question paused for a moment, Dubya would let out an ape-like grunt.
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> Now I’ve heard him compared to a monkey before, and I’ve seen photos where he indeed resembles one. But those were ape-grunts tonight, I’m sure. Apes are different from monkeys, right? So which it?

There really is no conflict. You see, he’s been compared not to monkeys, but to chimps, which ARE apes!

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2004, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-press-conference-i-couldnt-take-it-anymore/239888/43 "2004-04-14T03:02:30Z")

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> [@](#):
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> There really is no conflict. You see, he’s been compared not to monkeys, but to chimps, which ARE apes!

Thanks. Glad you cleared that up. Now can you tell me how the fuck the chimp got to be President? It’s like Ed the Talking Horse, or My Mother the Car, or some such bullshit. Christ! We’re screwed!

At least monkeys are _cute!_

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**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2004, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-press-conference-i-couldnt-take-it-anymore/239888/44 "2004-04-14T03:03:49Z")

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There were a lot of um’s and uh’s.  
You never hear Ralph Nader saying um and uh during his speeches.  
I wonder why?  
😛

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2004, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-press-conference-i-couldnt-take-it-anymore/239888/45 "2004-04-14T03:04:46Z")

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Well, considering that Creationists find it difficult to tell the difference between prehominids and our present chimps, and that the Religious Right is Bush’s most solid common-man constituency…well, the conclusion is left as an exercise for the reader.

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**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2004, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-press-conference-i-couldnt-take-it-anymore/239888/46 "2004-04-14T03:49:52Z")

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> [@Hentor the Barbarian](#):
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> Just to steal from **Jack Batty’s** joke, that was John Kerry, as he came in his pants.

Now _that’s_ comedy!

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2004, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-press-conference-i-couldnt-take-it-anymore/239888/47 "2004-04-14T03:56:42Z")

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> [@GoHeels](#):
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> Bush gives a speech that hits on all the talking points and gives the impression of a decisive leader, then disintegrates into a rambling, incoherent, mishmosh of deep fried indecipherable shit. Whose idea was it to have Bush spend an hour sweating, grimacing, stammering, stuttering, weaseling, and equivocating?

Maybe his handlers, when they’d finished drilling him on the speech, forgot to take his bottle of courage away?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2004, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-press-conference-i-couldnt-take-it-anymore/239888/48 "2004-04-14T04:53:01Z")

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> [@GoHeels](#):
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> Fuck it. I’ve been getting snookered since about 8:42 pm this evening. I just couldn’t take it anymore. Because I’m a working stiff, I’ve now switched to wine, and I’m currently on my third glass of a lovely Shiraz, which is the only saving grace of this lamentable evening. I’m expecting the third not to be the last, even though I’ve got to get up at 6 a.m.

Fourth glass of Zin for me. It’s the only way to fly.

On content, I can’t say he really did all that much worse than other presidents at press conferences. They never answer the tough the questions. Delivery was pretty painful to watch. He probably sweated some holes thru the pits in his shirt. I’d be curious to see if anyone can dig up a quote from a president in the modern era who, during a press conferences, admitted to making a major mistake about any significant policy action-- especially one involving military action. Bush’s oppoents seem to be just dying to see him say he was wrong, and want to piss all over him for not doing so. I think that’s just utterly unrealistic. Maybe I’m wrong on that, and I’ll stand corrected if I am.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2004, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-press-conference-i-couldnt-take-it-anymore/239888/49 "2004-04-14T06:22:05Z")

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> [@John Mace](#):
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> Delivery was pretty painful to watch.

No kidding! The man can’t put two coherent sentences together to save his life. The sheer, overwhelming quantity of gaffes, horrible sentence constructions, solecisms, and sheer foolishness was unbelievable to me, and I’m already seriously opposed to his presidency. I honestly thought Bush’s performance much worse than I expected (and I didn’t expect much).

One gets the impression that, not only does Bush not know what he’s talking about, he doesn’t even know the meaning of some of the words he uses.

He certainly does not understand the criticism of people of who disagree with him. Something akin to his clumsy swipes at the little strawmen he set up must have been what inspired Cervantes.

Extremely embarrassing. _This_ is our chief executive? _This_ is the commander in chief of all armed forces?

**Make it stop!** Please!

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2004, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-press-conference-i-couldnt-take-it-anymore/239888/50 "2004-04-14T06:39:28Z")

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You know what was great?

> [@](#):
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> “Mr. President, why are you and Mr. Cheney insisting on appearing together before the 9/11 commission?”
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> “They want to ask us questions, and I look forward to answering them.”
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> “I was asking why you’re appearing _together_, rather than seperately, as they requested.”
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> “Because it’s a good opportunity for us both to answer the questions that the commission is looking forward to asking us, and we are looking forward to answering.”
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> “But…”
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> “I’ve got some “Must Calls,” sorry! Uh… Jim?”

I swear, it’s better than _Yes, Minister._

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2004, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-press-conference-i-couldnt-take-it-anymore/239888/51 "2004-04-14T07:01:08Z")

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OK, Americans, I hope you know that theres only one way that you can start to regain the confidence of the rest of the world: Vote Bush the fuck out of office. Please? Pretty please? With a cherry on top?

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2004, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-press-conference-i-couldnt-take-it-anymore/239888/52 "2004-04-14T07:06:07Z")

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> [@I Love Me](#):
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> Thanks. Glad you cleared that up. Now can you tell me how the fuck the chimp got to be President? It’s like Ed the Talking Horse, or My Mother the Car, or some such bullshit. Christ! We’re screwed!
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> At least monkeys are _cute!_

How dare you insult chimps like that. He isn’t a chimp, he’s Mortimer Snerd. No wonder he needs Cheney with him, before the commission.

The question is - will Cheney’s lips move while Bush is “speaking.”

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**Author:** ![precipitate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@precipitate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/precipitate)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2004, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-press-conference-i-couldnt-take-it-anymore/239888/53 "2004-04-14T07:09:16Z")

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So the thing I’m sure will generate no discussion, but something I noted, was that during the question session he disparaged the people who were willing to commit suicide in the name of a “false ideology,” and then in a (closely) subsequent sentence mentioned the almighty that was responsible for all the men and women in this world.

Praise be to Allah, eh Georgie?

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**Author:** ![nameless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/779978/32.png) [@nameless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nameless)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2004, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-press-conference-i-couldnt-take-it-anymore/239888/54 "2004-04-14T07:39:25Z")

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> [@Priceguy](#):
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> OK, Americans, I hope you know that theres only one way that you can start to regain the confidence of the rest of the world: Vote Bush the fuck out of office. Please? Pretty please? With a cherry on top?

If the SDMB were an accurate sample of the United States at large, he’d have been impeached and tried for crimes against humanity several months ago. You’re preaching to the choir. It’s Middle America you want to speak with.

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2004, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-press-conference-i-couldnt-take-it-anymore/239888/55 "2004-04-14T08:11:09Z")

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> [@nameless](#):
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> If the SDMB were an accurate sample of the United States at large, he’d have been impeached and tried for crimes against humanity several months ago. You’re preaching to the choir. It’s Middle America you want to speak with.

You wouldn’t happen to have a direct line to Middle America, would you? I’d sure 'preciate it.

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2004, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-press-conference-i-couldnt-take-it-anymore/239888/56 "2004-04-14T08:21:39Z")

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Just a drive-by with a [link](http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/04/20040413-20.html) to the official transcript, including all mistakes, over at [whitehouse.gov](http://whitehouse.gov). BTW, he really did call both Powel and Rumsfeld SoS:

> [@](#):
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> Secretary of State Powell and Secretary of State Rumsfeld, and a number of NATO defense and foreign ministers are exploring a more formal role for NATO, such as turning the Polish-led division into a NATO operation, and giving NATO specific responsibilities for border control.

And this was during his speech, not the Q&A, so he couldn’t even read of the prompters.

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**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2004, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-press-conference-i-couldnt-take-it-anymore/239888/57 "2004-04-14T08:28:39Z")

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The system allowed someone of this quality to stand for Office, the system allowed someone like this to be actually be elected and the system allows him to avoid accountability and avoid the Constitution – it ain’t about Bush.

So, don’t get caught up on Bush, Bush is merely a symptom – it’s not even beyond the realms that Bush will now be sacrificed in order to protect this corrupt and deeply flawed system of election and Government: “Gee look, it works. We the peole got rid of the bastard!”

Right.

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**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2004, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-press-conference-i-couldnt-take-it-anymore/239888/58 "2004-04-14T09:42:04Z")

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> [@nameless](#):
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> You’re preaching to the choir. It’s Middle America you want to speak with.

But don’t use too many big words.😉

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**Author:** ![Cerri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3bc359/32.png) [@Cerri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cerri)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2004, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-press-conference-i-couldnt-take-it-anymore/239888/59 "2004-04-14T10:30:11Z")

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Anyone know where I can find an online video of the press conference I can watch? (preferably for free, I’m a bit poor atm)

I had to work tonight, so I missed it…I’m reading the transcript, but it’s the not the same…I want to _see_ the motherfucker sweat.

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**Author:** ![flight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbce88/32.png) [@flight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flight)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2004, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-press-conference-i-couldnt-take-it-anymore/239888/60 "2004-04-14T10:36:36Z")

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> [@London\_Calling](#):
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> The system allowed someone of this quality to stand for Office, the system allowed someone like this to be actually be elected and the system allows him to avoid accountability and avoid the Constitution – it ain’t about Bush.
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> So, don’t get caught up on Bush, Bush is merely a symptom – it’s not even beyond the realms that Bush will now be sacrificed in order to protect this corrupt and deeply flawed system of election and Government: “Gee look, it works. We the peole got rid of the bastard!”
> 
> Right.

The system is fine, it allows us to get exactly rh kind of goverment we deserve. So maybe many of us didn’t vote for him? Did we actively go out and help with Gore’s campaign? Only a very small minority. Remember that people this coming election. Your vote counts 1, convincing others counts many times that.

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