# Bush’s anti-Kerry ad I’ve seen on TV. Troubling.

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [May 6, 2004, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-s-anti-kerry-ad-i-ve-seen-on-tv-troubling/243850 "2004-05-06T16:37:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ms2001](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ms2001/32/18463_2.png) [@Ms2001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms2001)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2004, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-s-anti-kerry-ad-i-ve-seen-on-tv-troubling/243850/21 "2004-05-07T02:13:12Z")

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The Daily Show had a great bit about this last night (paraphrased):

“Very clever, Bush. The message here is that if Kerry had been President, that tank and that bomber wouldn’t be in Iraq. Why, I bet if Kerry were President, that _soldier_ wouldn’t be in Iraq either. We may not have even invaded Iraq in the first place! Damn you, Kerry!”

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**Author:** ![GLWasteful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f05b48/32.png) [@GLWasteful](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GLWasteful)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2004, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-s-anti-kerry-ad-i-ve-seen-on-tv-troubling/243850/22 "2004-05-07T02:37:53Z")

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If nothing else, I’m glad to see some Kerry ads to break up the monotony of watching Bush ads. Plus, Bush’s voice grates on me to no end.

Ahhhhh, the pity I feel for those of you who don’t live in a “battleground” state.

So does anybody wanna trade? Just until November.

Waste

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**Author:** ![GLWasteful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f05b48/32.png) [@GLWasteful](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GLWasteful)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2004, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-s-anti-kerry-ad-i-ve-seen-on-tv-troubling/243850/23 "2004-05-07T02:44:07Z")

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If nothing else, I’m glad to see some Kerry ads to break up the monotony of watching Bush ads. Plus, Bush’s voice grates on me to no end.

Ahhhhh, the pity I feel for those of you who don’t live in a “battleground” state.

So does anybody wanna trade? Just until November.

Waste

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**Author:** ![iamme99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/57b2e6/32.png) [@iamme99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamme99)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2004, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-s-anti-kerry-ad-i-ve-seen-on-tv-troubling/243850/24 "2004-05-07T03:40:03Z")

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Hopefully, we will see this ad from Move On run:

[Polygraph](http://www.bushin30seconds.org/view/04_small.shtml)

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**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2004, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-s-anti-kerry-ad-i-ve-seen-on-tv-troubling/243850/25 "2004-05-07T17:46:45Z")

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> [@GLWasteful](#):
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> If nothing else, I’m glad to see some Kerry ads to break up the monotony of watching Bush ads. Plus, Bush’s voice grates on me to no end.
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> Ahhhhh, the pity I feel for those of you who don’t live in a “battleground” state.
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> So does anybody wanna trade? Just until November.
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> Waste

Move to California, then. I didn’t even know they _had_ ads until people here started talking about them.

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**Author:** ![GLWasteful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f05b48/32.png) [@GLWasteful](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GLWasteful)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2004, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-s-anti-kerry-ad-i-ve-seen-on-tv-troubling/243850/26 "2004-05-07T17:56:43Z")

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> [@blowero](#):
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> Move to California, then. I didn’t even know they _had_ ads until people here started talking about them.

And as tempting as that is, it would mean Schwarzenegger attempting to speak for me, which kinda creeps me out.

And I can always take comfort in the fact that I don’t live in Florida.

Waste

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2004, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-s-anti-kerry-ad-i-ve-seen-on-tv-troubling/243850/27 "2004-05-07T22:35:03Z")

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> [@mailman](#):
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> 1. Are you troubled?

I am not troubled, for I hath a mute button.

\*"My baby left me my mule got lame  
Lost my money in a poker game  
A windstorm came just the other day  
Blew the house I lived in away

And I’m in so much trouble  
So much trouble  
So much trouble, I’m about to lose my mind  
Trouble, Trouble, Trouble\*"

George Thorogood

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**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2004, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-s-anti-kerry-ad-i-ve-seen-on-tv-troubling/243850/28 "2004-05-08T06:59:33Z")

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> [@GLWasteful](#):
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> And as tempting as that is, it would mean Schwarzenegger attempting to speak for me, which kinda creeps me out.

So where were you when I got dogpiled by Schwarzenegger supporters in my thread about him?😉

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2004, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-s-anti-kerry-ad-i-ve-seen-on-tv-troubling/243850/29 "2004-05-08T07:36:17Z")

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I find it interesting that Bush puts his stamp of approval on some ads but not on others.

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**Author:** ![mailman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8491ac/32.png) [@mailman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mailman)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2004, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-s-anti-kerry-ad-i-ve-seen-on-tv-troubling/243850/30 "2004-05-10T13:05:04Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I am not troubled, for I hath a mute button.

That’s it! The perfect solution. Whenever the cold hard facts get to be too much, I will just stop listening. That way I won’t have to deal with that ol’ pesky reality.

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**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2004, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-s-anti-kerry-ad-i-ve-seen-on-tv-troubling/243850/31 "2004-05-10T16:29:57Z")

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> [@Zoe](#):
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> I find it interesting that Bush puts his stamp of approval on some ads but not on others.

Watch and listen to the ad again. All political ads must meet the requirements of the recent Feingold McCain legislation.

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**Author:** ![GLWasteful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f05b48/32.png) [@GLWasteful](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GLWasteful)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2004, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-s-anti-kerry-ad-i-ve-seen-on-tv-troubling/243850/32 "2004-05-10T16:49:54Z")

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**Duckster** :

> [@](#):
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> Watch and listen to the ad again. All political ads must meet the requirements of the recent Feingold McCain legislation.

True, but many are paid for by organizations besides Bush or Kerry’s campaigns. I’m thinking of MoveOn, whose ads I don’t recall having an audible tag. And there are some Bush ads (well, anti-Kerry ads, same diff) that I don’t think have the tag at the end. Which means that I hafta watch television this evening and pay attention. Of course, I can only report on ads in the KCMO area, but I would think that they are universal.

Waste

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2004, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-s-anti-kerry-ad-i-ve-seen-on-tv-troubling/243850/33 "2004-05-10T20:10:57Z")

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> [@Master Wang-Ka](#):
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> This bites. I live in Texas, and Kerry hasn’t even begun airing anything here yet. Neither has Bush, since he pretty much assumes he doesn’t need to.

I read somewhere in the past few days that even in 2000, neither Bush nor Gore ran a single national ad, and the same is expected to be true this year, what with the hardening of 2000’s red/blue divisions.

It seems that your vote’s only worth something if you live in a battleground state, which is just one more reason why the Electoral College is an antiquated piece of rubbish.

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