# Bush to oversee investigation into his own #$%^up... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 6, 2005, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-to-oversee-investigation-into-his-own-up/320371 "2005-09-06T17:30:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Exploding\_Kitchen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Exploding\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exploding_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-to-oversee-investigation-into-his-own-up/320371/1 "2005-09-06T17:30:18Z")
[http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050906/ap\_on\_go\_pr\_wh/katrina\_washington\_44](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050906/ap_on_go_pr_wh/katrina_washington_44) > [@AP](#): > > Bush Says He’ll Find Out What Went Wrong > (AP) > > Buffeted by criticism over the federal response to Hurricane Katrina, President Bush said Tuesday he will oversee an investigation into what went wrong and why – in part to be sure the country could withstand more storms or attack. > > “Bureaucracy is not going to stand in the way of getting the job done for the people,” the president said after a meeting at the White House with his Cabinet on storm recovery efforts. > “What I intend to do is lead an investigation to find out what went right and what went wrong,” Bush said. “We still live in an unsettled world. We want to make sure we can respond properly if there is a WMD (weapons of mass destruction) attack or another major storm.” Gee, something tells me that he’ll find that the federal government (especially the departments headed by his appointees) did nothing wrong… What a joke. ---
**Author:** ![Purd\_Werfect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e47c2d/32.png) [@Purd\_Werfect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Purd_Werfect)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-to-oversee-investigation-into-his-own-up/320371/2 "2005-09-06T17:39:30Z")
Won’t he be surprised when all signs point to a crisis of leadership from the very top on down. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-to-oversee-investigation-into-his-own-up/320371/3 "2005-09-06T17:42:52Z")
> [@Purd Werfect](#): > > Won’t he be surprised when all signs point to a crisis of leadership from the very top on down. Probably the end result will be the Director of FEMA getting the Congressional Medal of Freedom. ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-to-oversee-investigation-into-his-own-up/320371/4 "2005-09-06T17:48:25Z")
Maybe he’ll find the source of the problem at the exact same time OJ finds Nicole’s killer. ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-to-oversee-investigation-into-his-own-up/320371/5 "2005-09-06T18:11:37Z")
> [@Gangster Octopus](#): > > Probably the end result will be the Director of FEMA getting the Congressional Medal of Freedom. Hey, a little respect for Mr. Brown please, you’re talking about our next Supreme Court Justice! ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-to-oversee-investigation-into-his-own-up/320371/6 "2005-09-06T18:30:59Z")
> [@NurseCarmen](#): > > Maybe he’ll find the source of the problem at the exact same time OJ finds Nicole’s killer. Ouch. You should preface comments like that with “Warning - internal organ damage hazard”. -Joe, hazarded ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-to-oversee-investigation-into-his-own-up/320371/7 "2005-09-06T18:35:18Z")
Naw, it’ll be okay. I’ve heard he’s going to round up the surviving members of the Warren Commision to find out what _really_ went on. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-to-oversee-investigation-into-his-own-up/320371/8 "2005-09-06T21:07:42Z")
Why doesn’t he get called out on this shit in the media? ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-to-oversee-investigation-into-his-own-up/320371/9 "2005-09-06T21:20:49Z")
> [@](#): > > "Bureaucracy is not going to stand in the way of getting the job done for the people …any more." > [@World Eater](#): > > Why doesn’t he get called out on this shit in the media? Sort of speaks for itself, doesn’t it? One hopes that people will read this for themselves and recognize the ridiculousness without requiring a special call-out on it. Of course, one also hopes for a bigger dong, but there one goes. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-to-oversee-investigation-into-his-own-up/320371/10 "2005-09-06T21:23:42Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > …any more." Isn’t that a quote from, like, 9/12/01 or something? -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-to-oversee-investigation-into-his-own-up/320371/11 "2005-09-07T00:08:12Z")
Official GWB Commission conclusion: “Brownie, you’re doing a helluva job!” If the Democrats had any balls at all, they would be running that clip in every campaign commercial in 2006. But we all know they won’t, because that wouldn’t be nice. ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-to-oversee-investigation-into-his-own-up/320371/12 "2005-09-07T00:38:35Z")
Kinda like the Dems putting Jamie Gorelick on the 9/11 Commission so she could investigate her own failure to ‘connect the dots,’ huh? ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-to-oversee-investigation-into-his-own-up/320371/13 "2005-09-07T00:45:33Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Kinda like the Dems putting Jamie Gorelick on the 9/11 Commission so she could investigate her own failure to ‘connect the dots,’ huh? That’s just desperate and lame. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-to-oversee-investigation-into-his-own-up/320371/14 "2005-09-07T00:49:30Z")
This might be a stupid question but who the hell is Jamie Gorelick? ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-to-oversee-investigation-into-his-own-up/320371/15 "2005-09-07T01:02:49Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > This might be a stupid question but who the hell is Jamie Gorelick? From the Chicago Sun-Times: [http://www.suntimes.com/output/laney/cst-edt-laney22.html](http://www.suntimes.com/output/laney/cst-edt-laney22.html) _Members also decided not to include this information: Four of the hijackers who flew planeloads of innocent people into the Twin Towers in New York, into the Pentagon outside Washington, and into a Pennsylvania field – four of them – had been identified by a military unit called “Able Danger” a full year before they struck. Members of the 9/11 commission neglected to add the fact that “Able Danger” wanted to warn the FBI to be on the alert for these men but was stopped because of a directive from commission **member Jamie Gorelick, who was then deputy attorney general under Janet Reno.** _ Also: _The 9/11 final report fails to include memos sent by New York U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White, who prosecuted the first Islamofascist attack on the Twin Towers. White wrote a series of memos complaining that **Gorelick’s “Wall of Separation” was dangerous to the nation because it would keep the country from stopping would-be terrorists before they strike**. White’s memos were sent to the Clinton Justice Department. They were also shown to the 9/11 commission, but there’s not a mention of them in the final report._ Imagine the reaction if Bush appointed, say, Dick Cheney to head up an investigation into alleged wrongdoings at Halliburton? And then he cleared them? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-to-oversee-investigation-into-his-own-up/320371/16 "2005-09-07T01:09:18Z")
They actually printed the word “Islamofascist” in a news article? Oh, wait, no they didn’t. That’s an opinion column, chock full of assumptions and speculations and uncited sources. ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-to-oversee-investigation-into-his-own-up/320371/17 "2005-09-07T01:12:37Z")
Watch that party line son. _There are no wrongdoings at Halliburton._ ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-to-oversee-investigation-into-his-own-up/320371/18 "2005-09-07T01:16:50Z")
> [@This Year's Model](#): > > They actually printed the word “Islamofascist” in a news article? Oh, wait, no they didn’t. That’s an opinion column, chock full of assumptions and speculations and uncited sources. You’re right. I knew it was an editorial but I figured the basic facts would stand. How 'bout this actual from the _New York Post_? I realize they’re not CBS News when it comes to factual content, but they make the necessary points: [http://news.yahoo.com/s/nypost/20050818/cm\_nypost/911omissionscont39d](http://news.yahoo.com/s/nypost/20050818/cm_nypost/911omissionscont39d) \*Because, it’s becoming clear that the commission’s failure to delve into Able Danger has less to do with the unit’s credibility than it does with protecting commission member Jamie Gorelick. Gorelick, then a deputy attorney general under Clinton, put into place the “wall of separation” that precluded sharing intelligence on terrorists with law-enforcement agencies. \* ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-to-oversee-investigation-into-his-own-up/320371/19 "2005-09-07T01:25:08Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Kinda like the Dems putting Jamie Gorelick on the 9/11 Commission so she could investigate her own failure to ‘connect the dots,’ huh? No, more like a problem due to a “wall” that existed from before she was ever on the scene. > [@wikians](#): > > Conservative media pundits such as Rush Limbaugh have accused Gorelick of helping to construct a ‘wall’ during her years at the justice department. However, government reports cited in the wake of the Able Danger scandal appear to contradict such claims, asserting that the ‘wall’ has been in existence since the 80’s and is in fact not one singular wall but a series of restrictions passed over the course of sixty years. > **[Jamie Gorelick](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Gorelick)** > > Jamie S. Gorelick (/ɡəˈrɛlɪk/; born May 6, 1950) is an American lawyer who served as the Deputy Attorney General of the United States from 1994 to 1997, during the Clinton administration. She has been a partner at WilmerHale since 2003 and has served on the board of directors of Amazon since February 2012. > Gorelick served on British Petroleum's Advisory Council, as their top legal counsel after the 2010 Deepwater Horizon oil spill. She was appointed by former Senate Democratic Leader Tom Daschle... ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-to-oversee-investigation-into-his-own-up/320371/20 "2005-09-07T01:26:10Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > How 'bout this actual from the _New York Post_? Still doesn’t seem like a news article, but it does give me a bit more context. It seems that this “wall of separation” was due to privacy concerns about legal aliens, that may or may not have involved legal issues as well. The issue of privacy vs. safety is still being debated today, and I’m not going to hang Gorelick solely due to that. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-to-oversee-investigation-into-his-own-up/320371.md?page=2)