# Bush to UN & Iraq: "We're giving you one more last chance"

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**Created:** [September 12, 2002, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-to-un-iraq-were-giving-you-one-more-last-chance/128145 "2002-09-12T19:00:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-to-un-iraq-were-giving-you-one-more-last-chance/128145/61 "2002-09-20T05:59:08Z")

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The US also cannot allow him to gain access to _The Necronomicon_, and the dark supernatural powers therein contained. About as plausible.

Sure, he might recruit terrorists to sacrifice themselves for the greater glory of Saddam. Those muslims who believe that Saddam is directly connected to Allah, for instance, those who believe that dying for Saddam ensures direct admission to Paradise.

No matter what WMD’s Saddam may or may not get, in the near or distant future, the US can turn Iraq into a vast expanse of fused green glass at any moment it chooses. There _is_ no deterrent to that much power. The US has been bitch-slapping Saddam bin Laden’s face now for 11 years and his retaliation has been entirely symbolic.

The ruling Saudi family may, indeed, be afraid of Saddam. They are more afraid of Saudi Arabians.

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**Author:** ![Urban\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Urban\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urban_Ranger)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-to-un-iraq-were-giving-you-one-more-last-chance/128145/62 "2002-09-20T06:00:24Z")

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BTW, has anybody seen Ron Paul’s questions regarding the proposed attack on Iraq? Very tough for warmongers to handle.

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**Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-to-un-iraq-were-giving-you-one-more-last-chance/128145/63 "2002-09-20T06:04:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Sam Stone \*  
> And that’s exactly what Saddam wants. He wants WMD not because it wants to lash out at the west in a blaze of glory, but because he can use it to keep the U.S. at bay. Once he has that capability, he can go back into Kuwait, Or Saudi Arabia, and re-establish Baghdad as the natural head of the Arab world. That’s Saddam’s twisted vision, and why he desperately wants weapons of mass destruction.

And how exactly do you know all of this, these inner thoughts of Saddam?

And while we’re at it, anybody care to take up the “containment” vs. “regime change” argument? It seemed we were heading there a coupla posts ago before this side-track.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-to-un-iraq-were-giving-you-one-more-last-chance/128145/64 "2002-09-20T06:35:01Z")

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References to H.P. Lovecraft are always welcome, even when the underlying argument is spurious.

As a keen observer on the previous page noted, “1) The International Institute for Strategic Studies issued a report indicating that Iraq could assemble a nuclear weapon within months if fissile material from foreign sources (read: Russia?) were obtained. Otherwise, the process could take several years.”

## That’s setting aside biological weapons, which apparently are easier to make if we are to believe Robert Wright of Slate.

This site notes that arms inspections, as currently constituted, are likely to fail: [http://iraqwatch.org/wmd/defeatinspectors.htm](http://iraqwatch.org/wmd/defeatinspectors.htm)

Why? “Inspections can only do one thing well: verify that a country’s declarations about a weapons program are honest and complete. It is feasible for inspectors to look at sites and equipment to see whether the official story about their use is accurate… It is a different proposition altogether to wander about a country looking for what has been deliberately concealed. That is a task with no end.”

Of course experts may differ on this subject. The Carnegie Foundation seems to believe it has come up with a plausible arrangement whereby arms inspectors are accompanied by soldiers (or sitting ducks for the Revolutionary Guard?).

Personally, I would advocate giving the arms inspection one last shot. I’m reluctant to send a military force to accompany them, though I would demand that certain Iraqi personnel and their families be permitted to be interviewed outside of Iraqi borders and placed in a witness protection program, if necessary.

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