# Bush v. Kerry, Round Three **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 13, 2004, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997 "2004-10-13T13:53:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/241 "2004-10-14T01:44:27Z")
> [@This Year's Model](#): > > Yes, it is. True Americans believe health care decisions should be made by insurance adjustors. “well,i’m sorry you need to get a new spleen, but unfortunately, we’re only going to authorize this used, third-party spleen, it \*should” work almost as well, you won’t notice the difference" ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/242 "2004-10-14T01:44:22Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > The lip is going down further, the eybrow is going up. He is transforming. Oh my Og! He’s a Decepticon! Transformers! Politicians in disguise! ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/243 "2004-10-14T01:45:36Z")
> [@erislover](#): > > Was this a pitch at the CBS “documents”? I have noooo idea! For some reason, the first thing that popped into my head was “Robert Novak”. ---
**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/244 "2004-10-14T01:45:43Z")
> [@elmwood](#): > > What system? Central nervous system. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/245 "2004-10-14T01:46:38Z")
Kerry’s back in the groove. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/246 "2004-10-14T01:47:22Z")
Kerry is making some unrealistic “nothing will change” promises to seniors on SS. ---
**Author:** ![malden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@malden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/malden)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/247 "2004-10-14T01:47:35Z")
> [@elmwood](#): > > What the fig is Bush grinning about while Kerry’s speaking? “Ooooh … I know the answer!” He grinned widely when Kerry mentioned the Washington Post. I was waiting for him to repeat his “nevermind” quip when it was his turn. ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/248 "2004-10-14T01:47:48Z")
> [@Harborwolf](#): > > Did Bush really say that young people shoudl be able to take money out of social security or is Kerry misrrepresenting. > > Please tell me Bush did not suggest that From the [State of the Union address](http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/01/20040120-7.html): > [@](#): > > Younger workers should have the opportunity to build a nest egg by saving part of their Social Security taxes in a personal retirement account. (Applause.) We should make the Social Security system a source of ownership for the American people. (Applause.) And we should limit the burden of government on this economy by acting as good stewards of taxpayers’ dollars. (Applause.) ---
**Author:** ![Andre\_LaCroix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/cab0a1/32.png) [@Andre\_LaCroix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andre_LaCroix)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/249 "2004-10-14T01:47:52Z")
“Heh, heh, heh” _drink_ ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/250 "2004-10-14T01:47:59Z")
> [@Joe Random](#): > > Is it just me, or is Bush’s “amused grin” incredibly creepy? Nope, not just you. I think he’s on something. Either that, or he’s got a major caffeine buzz on. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/251 "2004-10-14T01:48:00Z")
“raise taxes on small business owners” _drink_ I’m out of beer; how’d that happen? ---
**Author:** ![chula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a4c791/32.png) [@chula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chula)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/252 "2004-10-14T01:48:02Z")
All this stuff about choice in health care plans, and not having the government make decisions for you, rings pretty hollow with those of us who have _no_ health insurance at all. I don’t care which doctor I go to - I’d go to a medicine man if I could afford it. I think there are enough uninsured, or people who know people who are uninsured, that this stance isn’t going to win so many points. Immigration… let’s see where this goes. At least it’s a new topic. ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/253 "2004-10-14T01:48:07Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > Kerry’s back in the groove. Well, he has a plan. Immigration. Good. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/254 "2004-10-14T01:48:29Z")
“It’s a human rights issues”… BUT–Bush didn’t get that part. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/255 "2004-10-14T01:48:32Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > Kerry’s back in the groove. And Bush is out of it. I see it as a -------issue, etc. Oh man is this guy silly ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/256 "2004-10-14T01:48:34Z")
“We’re increasing the border of the United States” ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/257 "2004-10-14T01:48:39Z")
We should have instituted a drinking rule for every time Bush grins like an asshole after saying something that wasn’t a joke. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/258 "2004-10-14T01:49:31Z")
Bush just said, “I think there should be a temporary worker card that allows a willing worker and a willing employer to mate up . . .” Hope somebody at SNL caught that one. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/259 "2004-10-14T01:49:31Z")
How would the temporary work card differ from a work visa? ---
**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/260 "2004-10-14T01:49:39Z")
The markets started declining six months before Bush came into office? [Don’t think so.](http://www.djindexes.com/jsp/avgDecades.jsp?decade=1990) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997.md?page=14)