# Bush v. Kerry, Round Three

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 13, 2004, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997 "2004-10-13T13:53:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![chula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a4c791/32.png) [@chula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chula)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/281 "2004-10-14T01:53:44Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> It’s funny. People always say that if Bush doesn’t drool on himself in a debate that he’s surpassing expectations.
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> He’s failing that test tonight.

😃

“People from the Middle East are allegedly coming across the border” Not fond of your racist attitude, Kerry.

You guys are right - there are shots that make it look like Bush is as tall as Kerry. They must have placed the camera lower.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/282 "2004-10-14T01:54:19Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> Min wage should be at least $10.00 an hour.

Yet another reason I’m not a Democrat. Wage should be what the market dictates.

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**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/283 "2004-10-14T01:54:22Z")

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A Christian POTUS ripping off Kurt Cobain?!

ROTFquietlyLMAO…

> [@malden](#):
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> He grinned widely when Kerry mentioned the Washington Post. I was waiting for him to repeat his “ **nevermind** ” quip when it was his turn.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/284 "2004-10-14T01:54:38Z")

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“I’m sick and tired of politicians who talk about family values but don’t value families.” (paraphrased).

DAMN skippy!

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**Author:** ![Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Random)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/285 "2004-10-14T01:54:43Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> Min wage should be at least $10.00 an hour.

Yeah, that’ll increase jobs.

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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/286 "2004-10-14T01:55:32Z")

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Not liking Kerry’s borders answer at all.

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**Author:** ![DadWagonDriver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/edb3f5/32.png) [@DadWagonDriver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DadWagonDriver)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/287 "2004-10-14T01:55:32Z")

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> [@chula](#):
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> You guys are right - there are shots that make it look like Bush is as tall as Kerry. They must have placed the camera lower.

On CSpan, the camera is zoomed in closer on Bush.

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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/288 "2004-10-14T01:55:40Z")

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“Guess who will get shuffled through?”  
Bush

Umm, I’m looking at you, Bush.

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/289 "2004-10-14T01:55:43Z")

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> [@UrbanChic](#):
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> Allegedly, Senator?

Maybe Bush is SO far out of it that he’s even now questioning whether or not Kerry was a Senator. Surely not, right? 😛

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/290 "2004-10-14T01:56:10Z")

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No child left behind is a job program 😕 Did I miss something? I thought he underfunded that by a few billion dollars…

And again it’s bloody OFF TOPIC!!!

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/291 "2004-10-14T01:56:15Z")

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FYI, Mitch McConnell’s plan only raises minimum wage to $6.25 an hour. Notice that the Chimp didn’t tell you that part.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/292 "2004-10-14T01:56:18Z")

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Da’hell? Bush is actually BRAGGING about NCLB? And the question wasn’t even about education!

Dude, whatever he’s been smokin’, I want!

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**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/293 "2004-10-14T01:56:23Z")

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The camera angle is lower on Bush. His podium looks higher but they’re both supposed to be the same height.

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**Author:** ![WindFish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a183cd/32.png) [@WindFish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WindFish)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/294 "2004-10-14T01:56:27Z")

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> [@This Year's Model](#):
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> Either that was the quickest change do ‘Charter Member’ I’ve ever seen, or I deserve to be out of beer.

Well, this may be the first time I’m posting since signing up months ago, so perhaps the board software is a bit slow keeping up.

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**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/295 "2004-10-14T01:56:40Z")

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I keep expecting Bush to break into _Straight Outta Compton_ when he mentions “inner cities.”

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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/296 "2004-10-14T01:56:45Z")

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“Kids whose parents were directors of the CIA just moved through…”

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/297 "2004-10-14T01:56:57Z")

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He is pausing more than Captain Kirk.

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**Author:** ![Elysian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c77e96/32.png) [@Elysian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elysian)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/298 "2004-10-14T01:57:15Z")

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That was not the question, you moron. It was Roe v. Wade.

Thanks Kerry! Why do I even bother writing it down when I have you!

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/299 "2004-10-14T01:57:31Z")

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> [@wmulax93](#):
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> On CSpan, the camera is zoomed in closer on Bush.

It’s a headroom thing. See how the tops of their heads are about the same distance from the top of the screen? That’s also why Bush seems to fill more of the frame.

I guess you did know that, huh.

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**Author:** ![presidebt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c37758/32.png) [@presidebt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/presidebt)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/300 "2004-10-14T01:58:30Z")

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That was some startling clarity from Kerry on Roe v Wade.

(Liberal senator…drink)

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