# Bush v. Kerry, Round Three

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 13, 2004, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997 "2004-10-13T13:53:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/301 "2004-10-14T01:58:30Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Yet another reason I’m not a Democrat. Wage should be what the market dictates.

The market is sociopathic. Let the market decide and you end up with slavery.

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**Author:** ![chula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a4c791/32.png) [@chula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chula)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/302 "2004-10-14T01:58:35Z")

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“Reading is the new civil right.” Interesting, Bush. If children have a right to education, then there are going to be a lot new lawsuits. I’m all for it.

Bush had two minutes to answer a question and spoke for about 10 seconds. Like the way Kerry pointed it out.

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/303 "2004-10-14T01:59:19Z")

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> [@Harborwolf](#):
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> No child left behind is a job program […]

Well, that whole ‘outsourcing’ thing has been pretty prevalent in the debates. I mean, going wage at .13 an hour is good for kids, right?

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**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/304 "2004-10-14T01:59:21Z")

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Isn’t “picking a judge that goes by the constitution [as I see it]” a litmus test, or does he think there’s all these judges running around with a Cliff Notes version of the Magna Carta? 😕

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**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/305 "2004-10-14T01:59:50Z")

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I lived there half my life and am getting pretty mad at the Prez’s ragging on Massachusetts! :mad:

This is getting pretty hot. Bush is staring up at Kerry (I do hope everybody is watching on CSPAN, constant split screen) like he wants to swing a punch at him.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/306 "2004-10-14T01:59:52Z")

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oooooooooo, a draft question, kinky

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**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/307 "2004-10-14T01:59:53Z")

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Mod: “Mr. Bush, should we raise the minimum wage?”

Bush: “Well let me talk about education…”

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Mod: “Mr. Bush will you overturn Roe v…”

Bush: “WAIT WAIT WAIT!!! Don’t finish that question!!!”

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**Author:** ![presidebt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c37758/32.png) [@presidebt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/presidebt)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/308 "2004-10-14T02:00:28Z")

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These are great questions being asked. This reserve question is surprising.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/309 "2004-10-14T02:01:11Z")

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> [@Mehitabel](#):
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> This is getting pretty hot. Bush is staring up at Kerry (I do hope everybody is watching on CSPAN, constant split screen) like he wants to swing a punch at him.

Do it George! Do it! 😃

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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/310 "2004-10-14T02:01:33Z")

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> [@presidebt](#):
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> These are great questions being asked. This reserve question is surprising.

Yeah, the moderator is surprisingly probing and fair. I had some reservations when I read somewhere that he had golfed in the past with W. Bush.

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**Author:** ![Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Random)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/311 "2004-10-14T02:01:36Z")

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Hmm… And where are the soldiers for these two new divisions going to come from without a draft?

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**Author:** ![presidebt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c37758/32.png) [@presidebt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/presidebt)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/312 "2004-10-14T02:01:47Z")

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> [@presidebt](#):
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> These are great questions being asked. This reserve question is surprising.

Damn, great answer too.

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**Author:** ![DadWagonDriver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/edb3f5/32.png) [@DadWagonDriver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DadWagonDriver)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/313 "2004-10-14T02:02:12Z")

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OK, G-Dub is way stronger than in D1, but he’s still getting spanked like a five-year-old who stole a candy bar.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/314 "2004-10-14T02:02:16Z")

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> [@erislover](#):
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> Isn’t “picking a judge that goes by the constitution [as I see it]” a litmus test, or does he think there’s all these judges running around with a Cliff Notes version of the Magna Carta? 😕

The Magna Carta is not the Constitutuion. Are you a product of public education?

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**Author:** ![5que](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/3bc359/32.png) [@5que](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5que)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/315 "2004-10-14T02:02:16Z")

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Oh, Lordy, Don’t Forget Poland!!

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**Author:** ![capacitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47774/32.png) [@capacitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capacitor)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/316 "2004-10-14T02:02:37Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Yet another reason I’m not a Democrat. Wage should be what the market dictates.

10 cents and hour; I get it.

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**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/317 "2004-10-14T02:02:47Z")

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> [@Random](#):
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> Hmm… And where are the soldiers for these two new divisions going to come from without a draft?

Well, John Kerry… Oh, nevermind.  
I don’t like how Kerry is dodging the draft question, though. No pun intended.

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**Author:** ![Elysian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c77e96/32.png) [@Elysian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elysian)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/318 "2004-10-14T02:02:57Z")

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I think Kerry borrowed Cheney’s pin fron last Tuesday. Wait, Bush has the same pin. They must shop at the same stores. I wonder if they buy the same type of underwear.

EEEEEWWWW!!

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**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/319 "2004-10-14T02:03:13Z")

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Kerry corrected the $200 billion figure without being a flip-flopper (he said 120 billion, up to 200 billion). Nice recovery from that one.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/320 "2004-10-14T02:03:22Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> The Magna Carta is not the Constitutuion. Are you a product of public education?

Sadly, I _am_. “Constitution”

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