# Bush v. Kerry, Round Three

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 13, 2004, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997 "2004-10-13T13:53:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/441 "2004-10-14T02:30:33Z")

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Mort Kondrake needs an ass-kicking badly.

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**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/442 "2004-10-14T02:30:35Z")

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No environment. No stem cells.

I’m pissed.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/443 "2004-10-14T02:30:38Z")

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Bush was better, almost decent. But Kerry remained strong and outdid Bush in both demeanor and points.

Not much new material in this debate. Kerry leaves the three debates in a strong position and will go on to victory November 2.

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**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/444 "2004-10-14T02:31:13Z")

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_Other men love famous stars, but not I–the kind you worship from afar, and I try! But when I’m with those femme fatales I get depressed, 'cause I love my wife…_

Dammit.

Wow, lookit all the flashbulbs.

Bush’s smile was really really crooked. I feel stuffed to the gills with facts and my head is spinning. I was bored and amused at the same time.

Hee hee, I just heard Bob S. taking off his mike. \<rrrripppp\>

_…they tell me it’s normal, I’m stricken for life…_

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**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/445 "2004-10-14T02:31:23Z")

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Wow, Rudy toned down the shill bit this time. He’s still a whore, though.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/446 "2004-10-14T02:31:39Z")

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> [@faithfool](#):
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> I think I’m exhausted and going to watch something with more indepth content than our fearless leader displaying his winning ways with the English language.
> 
> Anyone know if there’s any Three Stooges marathons going on?

I almost spewed my chocolate eclair on the keyboard when I saw that. EXCELLENT!

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**Author:** ![JoeSki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b487fb/32.png) [@JoeSki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoeSki)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/447 "2004-10-14T02:31:47Z")

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Well…the debates over.

Does this mean I have to stop holding **Elysian**?

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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/448 "2004-10-14T02:31:58Z")

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> [@Patty O'Furniture](#):
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> Prediction: Bush’s not remembering that he said he’s not concerned about ObL will become a Kerry Campaign commercial within the next few days, possibly tomorrow.

Neither campaign can use footage from the debates in their ads. It’s in the memo of understanding.

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**Author:** ![chula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a4c791/32.png) [@chula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chula)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/449 "2004-10-14T02:32:14Z")

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> [@yosemite](#):
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> I didn’t see that at all. I thought it was a genuinely warm moment (if such a thing exists) between the two. Kerry’s comments about “marrying up” were a classic line, and I’m guessing if you ask many guys, they’ll usually agree that the “married up.” (My dad thought so.)

Yeah, but Bush seemed to glare at him rather than laugh along.

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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/450 "2004-10-14T02:32:24Z")

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> [@Mach Tuck](#):
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> No environment. No stem cells.
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> I’m pissed.

Yeah, and I saw Michael J Fox in the audience sitting next to Teresa Kerry.

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**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/451 "2004-10-14T02:33:01Z")

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MSNBC poll gives it to Kerry 85% to Bush’s 15%. That’s sure to fluctuate of course.

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**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/452 "2004-10-14T02:33:19Z")

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How can Kerry flip-flop based on political pressure to be popular, yet still stay out on the fringe and out of mainstream? How can Bush complain about Kerry being out of the mainstream and suggest that he himself is a good leader for sticking to unpopular positions? He flip flops to consistently liberal and unpopular positions based on pressure to be popular…

Who told Bush this made sense?! 😕

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**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/453 "2004-10-14T02:33:24Z")

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> [@singersargent](#):
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> P.S. I’m going to start renaming things I don’t want to argue about freedom, because freedom is _prima facie_ good. You can’t question its value.  
> I don’t want to pick up the sofa I dumped on the curb of my street. Why? It’s all part of freedom.  
> Damn, my insurance benefits have been slashed. But that’s freedom on the march, so I just need to let it go.  
> And I can also start calling things I hate “liberal”. Those gas prices are liberal. They are friends of Kennedy.

Yeah…You don’t know how much mileage I’ve gotten out of “Are you with us or with the terrorists?” It comes in real handy if, say, you are trying to convince your colleagues at work to go out for lunch.

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**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/454 "2004-10-14T02:33:39Z")

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I take it back. What a whore you are, Rudy. You must have removed all the mirrors in your house. That’s got to be the only way you can live with yourself.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/455 "2004-10-14T02:33:53Z")

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> [@yosemite](#):
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> I didn’t see that at all. I thought it was a genuinely warm moment (if such a thing exists) between the two. Kerry’s comments about “marrying up” were a classic line, and I’m guessing if you ask many guys, they’ll usually agree that the “married up.” (My dad thought so.)

Yes, it would usually be taken that way. But I think you missed the audience gooing “oooooohhhh” right after Kerry said it. Laura was rich (not in the range of THK, but wealthy) when Bush married her.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/456 "2004-10-14T02:34:08Z")

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So, since Kerry won this so decisively, I’m sure the polls will swing his way now, right?

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**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/457 "2004-10-14T02:35:01Z")

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> [@commasense](#):
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> Neither campaign can use footage from the debates in their ads. It’s in the memo of understanding.

Didn’t stop them from making ads from the first debate.

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**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/458 "2004-10-14T02:35:15Z")

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Not this again, Rick.

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**Author:** ![Elysian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c77e96/32.png) [@Elysian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elysian)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/459 "2004-10-14T02:35:28Z")

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> [@JoeSki](#):
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> Well…the debates over.
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> Does this mean I have to stop holding **Elysian**?

Only if you want to! 😃

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/460 "2004-10-14T02:36:21Z")

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Maybe the old ways were better. Give each of them a broadsword, yell “Let Og defend the righteous” and let them hack each other to bits.

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