# Bush v. Kerry, Round Three **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 13, 2004, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997 "2004-10-13T13:53:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![DadWagonDriver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/edb3f5/32.png) [@DadWagonDriver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DadWagonDriver)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/461 "2004-10-14T02:36:36Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > So, since Kerry won this so decisively, I’m sure the polls will swing his way now, right? I certainly hope so. ---
**Author:** ![JoeSki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b487fb/32.png) [@JoeSki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoeSki)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/462 "2004-10-14T02:37:20Z")
Hooray! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/463 "2004-10-14T02:37:42Z")
Yanks 3, Sox 0, bottom of the 7th. I also think that Kerry won on substance, but Bush had his moments. I’d give it to Johnny even though it was not his most shining performance. Heh. A Black journalist, Tavis Smiley, is on ABC happy that they finally addressed issues specific to people of color. _My cup runneth over with loooove…_ DAMMIT! ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/464 "2004-10-14T02:37:50Z")
> [@UrbanChic](#): > > Not this again, Rick. Why not? The purpose of the debates is presumably to sway voters. The polls should presumably reflect the same consensus as we see here - yes? ---
**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/465 "2004-10-14T02:38:00Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > So, since Kerry won this so decisively, I’m sure the polls will swing his way now, right? There’s only one vote that counts: the supreme court handing it to Bush. Or, I mean, the vote the american population makes, so long as they are allowed and didn’t have their registration tampered with. I mean, the mastery of democracy we have that we can hold fair elections here and make sure they happen everywhere we dropped bombs! [mantra]Freedom Stay the Course Consistent Democracy! Freedom Stay the Course Consistent Democracy![/mantra] ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/466 "2004-10-14T02:38:45Z")
> [@Patty O'Furniture](#): > > Didn’t stop them from making ads from the first debate. I’m not in a battleground state, so I don’t see any ads. What was used by whom? Were they official candidate campaign ads, or possibly from a 527 organization? ---
**Author:** ![chula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a4c791/32.png) [@chula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chula)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/467 "2004-10-14T02:39:00Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > Hmmm, I don’t really see the difference. Then again, I’m still not really sure there’s any difference between Bush and Kerry. At least, nothing that they claim that will actually happen. Really? Well, the pundits are always talking about how America has never been so divided, and I personally have never seen people so pissed off. I went to protests against the war and against the Republicans in New York and they were massive. Maybe it’s just in my world that there are such intense feelings. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/468 "2004-10-14T02:39:08Z")
Would you give your strawmn a rest, please, \*_Bricker_. Elections are never much affected by the debates and in this case there is a much more narrow middle than usual. There aren’t enough undecideds out there to cause a dramatic swing one way or the other. ---
**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/469 "2004-10-14T02:39:15Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Why not? The purpose of the debates is presumably to sway voters. The polls should presumably reflect the same consensus as we see here - yes? Since when did we consider dopers a representative sample of America? ---
**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/470 "2004-10-14T02:40:42Z")
It’s not, and Bricker knows that, erislover. ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/471 "2004-10-14T02:40:59Z")
Boy, for a coupla guys who “don’t want to impose their faith on others,” they sure know how to suck God’s dick. How many votes does God _get_, anyway? ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/472 "2004-10-14T02:41:13Z")
> [@Mehitabel](#): > > Yanks 3, Sox 0, bottom of the 7th. St. Louis 10, Houston 4, top of the 7th. So, according to my scoring system, it is still a tie. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/473 "2004-10-14T02:42:35Z")
Any polls yet? Fox is spinning this hard for Bush. They sound really desperate. ---
**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/474 "2004-10-14T02:42:58Z")
So is the Truth Squad going to use its mighty Fact-o-Meter on Bush denying he said he wasn’t worried about ObL? ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/475 "2004-10-14T02:43:30Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > So, since Kerry won this so decisively, I’m sure the polls will swing his way now, right? I really don’t understand why you keep saying this. Clearly it continues to be the case. Look at where the polls were prior to the first debate and now. Kerry’s exceptionally strong performances have moved the polls markedly, swinging them in some cases by 15 points. What are you going for here? How’s that working for you? ---
**Author:** ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/476 "2004-10-14T02:43:42Z")
So what was up with the right side of W’s face? Does it always droop like that? I’ve never notice before, but I couldn’t stop looking at his mouth. Has he had a stroke or something? When he smiled, only half of his face moved. Seriously. Did anybody else notice that? ---
**Author:** ![5que](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/3bc359/32.png) [@5que](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5que)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/477 "2004-10-14T02:43:57Z")
Excellent – NBC is showing the “I’m not concerned about Osama” quote. ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/478 "2004-10-14T02:44:24Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > …Elections are never much affected by the debates and in this case there is a much more narrow middle than usual. There aren’t enough undecideds out there to cause a dramatic swing one way or the other. ABout 5-10% are undecided, and it would be quite a dramitic shift if even 3/4 of them went for Kerry. Certainly if the oft-quoted (by some folks) but useless internet polls were accurate, we would see those undecideds going in clearly disproportionate numbers to Kerry. ---
**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/479 "2004-10-14T02:45:06Z")
> [@commasense](#): > > I’m not in a battleground state, so I don’t see any ads. What was used by whom? Were they official candidate campaign ads, or possibly from a 527 organization? There have been so goddammed many of them, I can’t recall the specific focus of the commercial but I am sure I heard the “global test” sound bite followed by the “I’m GWB and I approve…” And I KNOW that I have seen commercials from the DNC using images of Bush grimaces right after Debate 1. ---
**Author:** ![RevCo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9fc348/32.png) [@RevCo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RevCo)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/480 "2004-10-14T02:45:39Z")
> [@Patty O'Furniture](#): > > MSNBC poll gives it to Kerry 85% to Bush’s 15%. That’s sure to fluctuate of course. Don’t take the online polls as factual or serious. After the last debate, observing the online vote tracker on CNN - Kerry got 40000 votes in about the 30 seconds it took me to refresh it the poll numbers. I think that a lot of those are _ahem_ manipulated by people who are a little technically savy. And it’s as easy to do as a denial of service… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997.md?page=23) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997.md?page=25)