# Bush v. Kerry, Round Three

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 13, 2004, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997 "2004-10-13T13:53:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/61 "2004-10-14T01:07:59Z")

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> [@Ilsa\_Lund](#):
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> Spread freedom and liberty around the world? :dubious:

The “I can’t believe it’s not freedom![sup]TM[/sup]” democracy spread.

I can’t believe he mentioned that it was some company in England like they’re a few steps away from Nigeria or something. Chiron has huge facilities in the friggin’ bay area of CA! _sigh_ Next up: the dangers of Canadian medicine purchased from American multinationals.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/62 "2004-10-14T01:08:32Z")

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Don’t get a flu shot–there’s the solution!

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**Author:** ![Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Random)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/63 "2004-10-14T01:08:32Z")

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> [@chula](#):
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> Blaming the lawyers again. Pharmaceuticals should never be held accountable for anything!

Yeah, it must have been those evil lawyers that contaminated the vaccine.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/64 "2004-10-14T01:08:38Z")

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How does lack of flu vaccine equal lack of health care coverage?

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/65 "2004-10-14T01:08:40Z")

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What a lame question #2. What the hell does the President have to do with a contaminated batch of flu vaccine? Why should he be talking about this at all?

And of course, Kerry turns it into an indictment of the entire health care system. Lame.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/66 "2004-10-14T01:08:46Z")

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He lied! He totally fucking lied! He DID say he didn’t give a shit about OBL! He totally did!

I hope he gets busted by the talking heads for that.

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**Author:** ![Moe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moe/32/2972_2.png) [@Moe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moe)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/67 "2004-10-14T01:08:59Z")

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Kerry said “I have a plan”, drink.

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**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/68 "2004-10-14T01:09:03Z")

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Whatever you do, don’t drink whenever Kerry says he has a plan. You’ll be dead by ten!

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**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/69 "2004-10-14T01:09:49Z")

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Bush claimed he never said he’s not concerned about ObL. Google returned 220,000 hits for “bin laden bush not concerned”. :dubious:

[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59442-2004Aug12.html](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59442-2004Aug12.html)

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> Well, as I say, we haven’t heard much from him. And I wouldn’t necessarily say he’s at the center of any command structure. And again, I don’t know where he is. I–I’ll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him.

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**Author:** ![Moe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moe/32/2972_2.png) [@Moe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moe)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/70 "2004-10-14T01:10:18Z")

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> [@UrbanChic](#):
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> Whatever you do, don’t drink whenever Kerry says he has a plan. You’ll be dead by ten!

😃

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**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/71 "2004-10-14T01:10:26Z")

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Yep, Bush has had a few.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/72 "2004-10-14T01:10:27Z")

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" A plan is not a litany of complaints" soundbite!

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/73 "2004-10-14T01:10:46Z")

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the only president to lose jobs :drink:

off topic answer for a slam :drink:

Dear lord I’m glad this is the last debate

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**Author:** ![presidebt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c37758/32.png) [@presidebt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/presidebt)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/74 "2004-10-14T01:11:07Z")

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Who is providing the feed this time? At the beginning, they showed Bush’s head level with Kerry’s, but you could see a good deal of Bush’s lectern, though none of Kerry’s. Then it seemed like Bush got bigger, his lectern disappeared, but he was still “as tall” as Kerry. Now it’s fluctuating all over the place…Bush is shorter, then the same height, then taller, then the same hright, then shorter…wtf?

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**Author:** ![katie1341](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/91b2a8/32.png) [@katie1341](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/katie1341)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/75 "2004-10-14T01:11:18Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> He lied! He totally fucking lied! He DID say he didn’t give a shit about OBL! He totally did!
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> I hope he gets busted by the talking heads for that.

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 I'm sure we'll see the videotapes of him saying that about a million times over the next coiuple of days. Heh.
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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/76 "2004-10-14T01:11:32Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> Don’t get a flu shot–there’s the solution!

Well, I’m young, healthy, and almost never get a flu shot anyway. Bush has a point that influenza, while annoying to the majority of people in the US, is not the potential killer it can be to the very young and the elderly. Don’t get one if there is still a shortage and there is no pressing reason for you to get one doesn’t sound that bad to me.

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**Author:** ![5que](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/3bc359/32.png) [@5que](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5que)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/77 "2004-10-14T01:12:19Z")

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What’s with Bush’s smile? It’s up on the right and down on the left. It’s less smerk-like and more stroke-like.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/78 "2004-10-14T01:12:20Z")

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“He been a senator.”

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**Author:** ![Julius\_Henry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@Julius\_Henry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Julius_Henry)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/79 "2004-10-14T01:12:48Z")

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Wasn’t there supposed to be a new debate tonight? This looks like a repeat. I know I’ve heard all this before.

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**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-v-kerry-round-three/268997/80 "2004-10-14T01:13:04Z")

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Pay-go ???  
Did Dubya mean Pay as you go ???

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