# Bush voters with sons or daughters 18-25

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-voters-with-sons-or-daughters-18-25/286712>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 26, 2005, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-voters-with-sons-or-daughters-18-25/286712 "2005-01-26T04:36:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2006, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-voters-with-sons-or-daughters-18-25/286712/141 "2006-04-10T15:20:13Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> OK, who decides which nations need to be “set straight”?  
> Who decides what nation(s) have the authority to do the “straightening”?
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> CMC fnord!

You quote ‘straight’ as if they’re saints or something. As far as who decides to set them straight, any nation that has the power to do so, IMO. Before they actually wipe a nation off the face of the Earth, and claim that it never happened.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2006, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-voters-with-sons-or-daughters-18-25/286712/142 "2006-04-10T16:53:56Z")

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> [@ParentalAdvisory](#):
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> You quote ‘straight’ as if they’re saints or something.

No,  
A) I was asking a more general question.  
B) ‘straight’ according to who?

> [@ParentalAdvisory](#):
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> As far as who decides to set them straight, any nation that has the power to do so, IMO…

So if China wants to set us “straight” they should go for it?  
You willing to give this “straightening” power to any one who wants to exercise it, and anyway they choose to?  
Might makes right?

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2006, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-voters-with-sons-or-daughters-18-25/286712/143 "2006-04-11T01:15:25Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> B) ‘straight’ according to who?

According to humanity? Unless you feel it is ok to threaten other nations with “wiping them off the face of the Earth”.

> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> So if China wants to set us “straight” they should go for it?

If the U.S. was threating to nuke Canada over a cave and giant fucking rock, it would be appropriate.

> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> You willing to give this “straightening” power to any one who wants to exercise it, and anyway they choose to?  
> Might makes right?
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> CMC fnord!

That’s a tough question that nobody can answer. I was giving you my opinion. I can’t give you any answer to this question that you will agree with. You don’t agree , obviously. You win, have a fucking cookie.

But if one day, if Iran did choose to nuke Israel, you’ll be damn sure there will be world wide cries of, “why didn’t the someone prevent this?” Guess who be blamed for that? You know damn well who will be blamed for that…

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2006, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-voters-with-sons-or-daughters-18-25/286712/144 "2006-04-11T01:58:31Z")

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> [@ParentalAdvisory](#):
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> Guess who be blamed for that? You know damn well who will be blamed for that…

Oh noes, people might think _ill_ of us! :eek:

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**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2006, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-voters-with-sons-or-daughters-18-25/286712/145 "2006-04-11T03:50:05Z")

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> [@ParentalAdvisory](#):
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> But if one day, if Iran did choose to nuke Israel, you’ll be damn sure there will be world wide cries of, “why didn’t the someone prevent this?” Guess who be blamed for that? You know damn well who will be blamed for that…

So the rest of the world would be saying that the US should have imposed it’s will on them?

The US military is stretched _way too thin_ right now. Starting new battles is not going to improve that situation.

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2006, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-voters-with-sons-or-daughters-18-25/286712/146 "2006-04-11T05:31:56Z")

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> [@ParentalAdvisory](#):
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> You know that strange kid in high school who was a bit anti-social, and sometimes he talked about killing hamsters and other small animals for fun? And then you ask about him at your high school reunion, only to find out that he’s been in prison for killing a family via Bind, Torture, Kill methods, and also skinned the dog for a fur coat? Iran is _that_ kid.

You sure you don’t mean [James Dobson](http://www.geocities.com/cddugan/DobsonsDog.html) here?

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-voters-with-sons-or-daughters-18-25/286712/147 "2006-04-12T06:50:06Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> One year plus down. I’m happy so far.

So we _are_ on then? You see, you never said that you were, and I kept asking and pestering you about it, but the only reply I ever got was “We’re not on unless I’ve explicitly said that we are”.

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**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-voters-with-sons-or-daughters-18-25/286712/148 "2007-02-18T09:55:30Z")

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So, Iran is not backing down on their nuclear program, and now weapons [might](http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/02/15/iran.iraq/index.html) be flowing from Iran into Iraq. Creating a direct tie between Iran and the current war in Iraq seems to make it almost too easy to justify a precision strike on Iranian targets just across the border for “participating” in the war. Maybe that’s a bit of a stretch, but Iran sure does seem to be testing the mettle of the U.S. DOD lately.

[sub]I don’t want this thread to become a zombie and then locked before it becomes relevant again, so I’m posting an update in order to keep the last post more current. If the mods object to this, I’m sure they will do what they must. If this is considered inappropriate I apologize, and will not do it again.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-voters-with-sons-or-daughters-18-25/286712/149 "2007-02-18T15:05:51Z")

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Due to the age of this thread, I am going to close it. Feel free to open a new thread if you wish to continue to discuss this topic.

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