# Bush vs Kerry Poll results **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [March 19, 2004, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-vs-kerry-poll-results/235193 "2004-03-19T13:12:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Omnipresent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8c91f0/32.png) [@Omnipresent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omnipresent)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-vs-kerry-poll-results/235193/21 "2004-03-20T11:44:15Z")
> [@Airman Doors](#): > > Oh, and one other thing. This board is so insanely ding-dong liberal that it’s reaching through cyberspace for my wallet now. 😉 I hope this poll puts to rest any doubts about the slant of this board. Yea, I’m beginning to realize that. Obviously, I too feel that the results that we got are certainly “bizarre”. Still, I was curious as to an explanation. I guess the only thing that we can conclude is that, you’re right, this board is generally liberal. 100 people polled, 82 for one candidate!!! If the results were the other way around, we’d have to conclude that the board is generally conservative, no? Oh well, we’ll wait and see. I won’t be subscribing by the way. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-vs-kerry-poll-results/235193/22 "2004-03-20T17:27:32Z")
You’re using survey data from an online message board which is predominantly liberal and dedicated to fighting ignorance. Your sample is skewed towards educated people with computers, online connections, and attention spans long enough to keep coming here. See a pattern here? ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-vs-kerry-poll-results/235193/23 "2004-03-20T17:50:01Z")
I see you trying to make a pattern where there isn’t one. People go where they are welcomed, and they stay where they find a home. This place is a left-wing haven. It has nothing to do with intelligence, education, or anything else. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-vs-kerry-poll-results/235193/24 "2004-03-20T18:26:25Z")
> [@Omnipresent](#): > > I believe it to be a fare indication of the state of things. Or, it’s an indicator that most of the boards’ conservatives didn’t bother to vote. I bet if you looked through a few GD threads about Bush or Kerry (or the “conservatives are eeeeeevil” threads), you’d find a lot of us self-avowed conservatives in those threads and not in yours. Polls that aren’t anonymous are more likely to be skewed, since they _potentially_ leads to pile-ons against posters with opposing views and overweening smugness- that makes a lot of people simply avoid them. I get RDA of that in GD, why look for it in IMHO too? ---
**Author:** ![E.Thorp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@E.Thorp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E.Thorp)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-vs-kerry-poll-results/235193/25 "2004-03-20T19:19:05Z")
Maybe a Brit doper could help me find a favorite (but only half-remembered) quote by, I think, Stephen Fry, who back in the Thatcher days mocked the conservative “back to Victorian values” crowd by attributing this quote to them: “Why are all the clever people left wing?” Fighting ignorance since 1973, etc. … 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-vs-kerry-poll-results/235193/26 "2004-03-20T20:46:15Z")
I have to object to the contention that Kerry voters are necessarily left-wing. Kerry voters also include libertarians (who, you may remember, were forced to choose between the two parties), and a significant amount of self-described conservatives put off by Bush’s social and foreign agendas. That said, I agree that the SDMB is biased to the left on social issues (especially religion and gay rights issues), but I suspect that economically it’s much closer to being centrist. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-vs-kerry-poll-results/235193/27 "2004-03-20T23:44:59Z")
> [@Airman Doors](#): > > Oh, and one other thing. This board is so insanely ding-dong liberal that it’s reaching through cyberspace for my wallet now. 😉 What, isn’t free-market money-making-at-all-costs part of the conservative philosophy? After all, if the SDMB was a liberal board, we’d be giving away subscriptions for the good of society! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2004, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-vs-kerry-poll-results/235193/28 "2004-03-21T01:02:05Z")
Funny, **rjung**. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Skipper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecccb3/32.png) [@The\_Skipper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Skipper)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2004, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-vs-kerry-poll-results/235193/29 "2004-03-21T04:47:08Z")
I find the poll results idiotic and reflecting the idiocy of the people here that voted for him. 😃 Kerry is a jack-off and so are the people who vote for him. IMO ---
**Author:** ![HomerIU](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HomerIU](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HomerIU)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2004, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-vs-kerry-poll-results/235193/30 "2004-03-21T05:44:57Z")
> [@Yookeroo](#): > > Can I say that any thinking person wouldn’t vote for a candidate just to piss off people he or she is irritated with? > This is probably true. ``` I didn't say I was voting for Bush JUST to piss anyone off. I said it made more more determined to vote for Bush, meaning I would have done it anyway but remarks like this only serve to reinforce the vote and do absolutely nothing to win over moderates or those on the fence, which is really my point. To be fair, though, and just to confuse things, if I vote for Bush it would probably be more a vote AGAINST Kerry and for the Republican party rather than for Bush. I think there are more qualified people than both Bush and Kerry but they just don't happen to be on the ticket. ``` ---
**Author:** ![Tentacle\_Monster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba9def/32.png) [@Tentacle\_Monster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tentacle_Monster)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2004, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-vs-kerry-poll-results/235193/31 "2004-03-21T07:07:27Z")
> [@TheSkipper](#): > > Kerry is a jack-off and so are the people who vote for him. IMO You leave my sex life out of this. Tentacle Monster, the only member of the USAF to vote Kerry. Well, probably the only one. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2004, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-vs-kerry-poll-results/235193/32 "2004-03-21T07:21:01Z")
> [@Tentacle Monster](#): > > Tentacle Monster, the only member of the USAF to vote Kerry. Well, probably the only one. Not true. I’m voting for Kerry as well. Not that he’ll be any better, but it would be tough to be worse. ---
**Author:** ![Rockmotteller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/51bf81/32.png) [@Rockmotteller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rockmotteller)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2004, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-vs-kerry-poll-results/235193/33 "2004-03-21T17:45:43Z")
> [@Airman Doors](#): > > Not true. I’m voting for Kerry as well. Not that he’ll be any better, but it would be tough to be worse. Not true. It would be quite easy to do worse. Not that Kerry will do worse, but it’s too bad we don’t have better candidates to choose from, huh? ---
**Author:** ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2004, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-vs-kerry-poll-results/235193/34 "2004-03-21T19:10:31Z")
> [@rjung](#): > > After all, if the SDMB was a liberal board, we’d be giving away subscriptions for the good of society! 😃 …so working America would be paying for it? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2004, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-vs-kerry-poll-results/235193/35 "2004-03-21T19:28:29Z")
> [@Tentacle Monster](#): > > You leave my sex life out of this. > > Tentacle Monster, the only member of the USAF to vote Kerry. Well, probably the only one. Correct me if I’m wrong, but hasn’t Bush cut combat pay? Isn’t that a pretty good reason to expect all three branches to vote against him? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2004, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-vs-kerry-poll-results/235193/36 "2004-03-21T19:29:51Z")
> [@The Skipper](#): > > I find the poll results idiotic and reflecting the idiocy of the people here that voted for him. 😃 > > Kerry is a jack-off and so are the people who vote for him. IMO Bush is a chimpanzee and the people who vote for him are joining him in flinging feces at sensible fiscal, foreign, and social policy. ---
**Author:** ![Tentacle\_Monster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba9def/32.png) [@Tentacle\_Monster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tentacle_Monster)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2004, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-vs-kerry-poll-results/235193/37 "2004-03-22T08:23:06Z")
> [@Airman Doors](#): > > Not true. I’m voting for Kerry as well. Not that he’ll be any better, but it would be tough to be worse. Well, I’ll be damned. That makes two. I don’t know about any of the people I work with, but I suspect at least one of them is a closeted liberal. > [@Really Not All That Bright](#): > > Correct me if I’m wrong, but hasn’t Bush cut combat pay? Isn’t that a pretty good reason to expect all three branches to vote against him? Well, I think he cut a proposed increase in combat pay. That’s still pretty low, considering the 87.5 _billion_ dollar package he got Congress to pass for the war in Iraq. I have a feeling that the most significant part of that package went straight up the noses of executives at Kellogg, Brown & Root. Also, there are _four_ branches. Army, Air Force, Navy, and Marines. Well, _technically_, the Marines are part of the Navy, but they’re just too different to be considered one and the same. And I suppose if you _really wanted to_, you could count the Coast Guard. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-vs-kerry-poll-results/235193.md?page=1)