# Bush, you're not at a frat party, you dick

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 18, 2006, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-youre-not-at-a-frat-party-you-dick/365036 "2006-07-18T16:27:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-youre-not-at-a-frat-party-you-dick/365036/1 "2006-07-18T16:27:22Z")

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Okay, I wasn’t really going to write anything about Bush saying “shit” because it really wasn’t anything very surprising. The sad part was hearing just how fucking stupid he is, and that our foreign policy is being decided by a guy who thinks its “ironic” that “they” (like, some other people) could just get Syria to tell Hezbollah to stop this shit.

It was more embarrasing to hear how he addressed other world leaders, especiallly a few days ago at a joint press conference, where he kept referring to the Chancellor of Germany as “Angela.” Would he like her to talk with the press about George? Probably not, because he’s on some power trip.

But even that wasn’t anything really new, as he did the same with “Jacques,” or the elected leader of France, many years ago.

However, [this bullshit is outrageous.](http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/009086.php) Someone pull this assclown back to Washington - he’s a major league embarrassment. Does Bush really think it’s appropriate to give massages to world leaders. Look at Merkel’s reaction. Clearly, she was creeped out.

Fuck you, prick. You’re embarrassing us all. Okay, most of us, apart from 29% of the population, who are ass-lickers anyway.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-youre-not-at-a-frat-party-you-dick/365036/2 "2006-07-18T16:30:58Z")

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This site [Crooks and Liars](http://www.crooksandliars.com/posts/2006/07/18/presidential-groping/) has the video.

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-youre-not-at-a-frat-party-you-dick/365036/3 "2006-07-18T16:31:25Z")

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Bush is to diplomatic relations what large male bovines are to porcelain dinnerware retail establishments.

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**Author:** ![5que](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/3bc359/32.png) [@5que](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5que)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-youre-not-at-a-frat-party-you-dick/365036/4 "2006-07-18T16:36:42Z")

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Well. I thought this would be about him talking to Tony with his mouth full.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-youre-not-at-a-frat-party-you-dick/365036/5 "2006-07-18T16:38:14Z")

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> [@Hentor the Barbarian](#):
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> Okay, I wasn’t really going to write anything about Bush saying “shit” because it really wasn’t anything very surprising. The sad part was hearing just how fucking stupid he is, and that our foreign policy is being decided by a guy who thinks its “ironic” that “they” (like, some other people) could just get Syria to tell Hezbollah to stop this shit.

Hmmm. Are you saying that Hezbollah would not listen to Syrian pressure to stop its attacks?

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> It was more embarrasing to hear how he addressed other world leaders, especiallly a few days ago at a joint press conference, where he kept referring to the Chancellor of Germany as “Angela.” Would he like her to talk with the press about George? Probably not, because he’s on some power trip.
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> But even that wasn’t anything really new, as he did the same with “Jacques,” or the elected leader of France, many years ago.

I am hearing echoes of a dearly departed poster who used to post Pit rants on the order of several per week on vital stuff like the perceived vulgarity of Bush and his daughters.

Oh, and your first link appears dead.

Wouldn’t it be more effective to dissect Bush’s foreign policy moves in concrete terms, rather than to splutter over his informality and table manners?

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-youre-not-at-a-frat-party-you-dick/365036/6 "2006-07-18T16:41:52Z")

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Back to Washington? I’d prefer back to Crawford. 917 days and counting.

I can’t wait to see how the Bush cult members try to sugarcoat this one.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-youre-not-at-a-frat-party-you-dick/365036/7 "2006-07-18T16:46:16Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Hmmm. Are you saying that Hezbollah would not listen to Syrian pressure to stop its attacks?

Not if the big plan to achieve that is to get someone else to tell them to stop this shit.

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> I am hearing echoes of a dearly departed poster who used to post Pit rants on the order of several per week on vital stuff like the perceived vulgarity of Bush and his daughters.

I have not the first idea what the fuck you are talking about.

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> Oh, and your first link appears dead.

Then check the second. It’s right below the first. Or go to [www.talkingpointsmemo.com](http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com). Or just fucking google “Bush gropes German chancellor”.

> [@](#):
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> Wouldn’t it be more effective to dissect Bush’s foreign policy moves in concrete terms, rather than to splutter over his informality and table manners?

Why not do both? Besides, most cocksuckers here would respond to a reasoned discussion of Bush’s foreign policy moves with “Oh yeah, you just hate Bush. We’re turning corners. You’ll see, eventually, but you can’t know anything from a snapshot a few years into the process.”

Besides, I wouldn’t include unwanted groping as an elemet of “table manners” or “informality.”

I take it you see his giving Merkel a massage as a good thing? If not, why all the fucking effort to downplay and distract?

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**Author:** ![Nutty\_Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d07c76/32.png) [@Nutty\_Bunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nutty_Bunny)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-youre-not-at-a-frat-party-you-dick/365036/8 "2006-07-18T16:52:50Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I’d prefer back to Crawford. 917 days and counting.

Good God! Is it that long? Really?? This seems like the longest presidency in my lifetime.

I’m not offended by him saying a swear word. But all of these things together ( massages, informality (“Yo, Blair”), talking with his mouth full) paint a very bad picture. Appearances do count for something and if I were a world leader, I would find it very difficult to take him seriously.

No wonder the US is so hated. If I lived overseas, I would always feel like I had to apologize for my President, like he’s the drunk uncle at a party.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-youre-not-at-a-frat-party-you-dick/365036/9 "2006-07-18T16:54:18Z")

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What do you expect from a president elected based on the idea that one could imagine having a beer with him?  
That is how people behave when they are out having a few beers. He has done nothing unexpected.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-youre-not-at-a-frat-party-you-dick/365036/10 "2006-07-18T16:55:59Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Wouldn’t it be more effective to dissect Bush’s foreign policy moves in concrete terms, rather than to splutter over his informality and table manners?

That informality is part of why his foreign policy is perceived as impotent. Protocol is very important, and diplomacy stands on formality.

This is not the worst diplomatic faux pas I’ve ever seen, but it’s certainly not the way you do business with the most powerful countries in the world.

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-youre-not-at-a-frat-party-you-dick/365036/11 "2006-07-18T16:56:41Z")

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> [@Hentor the Barbarian](#):
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> \<snip\>I have not the first idea what the fuck you are talking about.

Have you forgotten **reeder** already?

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-youre-not-at-a-frat-party-you-dick/365036/12 "2006-07-18T16:57:29Z")

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> [@Zebra](#):
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> What do you expect from a president elected based on the idea that one could imagine having a beer with him?  
> That is how people behave when they are out having a few beers. He has done nothing unexpected.

But he’s _not_ out having a few beers. He’s at an important diplomatic conference, where good manners and etiquette are the expected norm.

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**Author:** ![Faruiza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecd19e/32.png) [@Faruiza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Faruiza)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-youre-not-at-a-frat-party-you-dick/365036/13 "2006-07-18T17:04:56Z")

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> [@Airman Doors](#):
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> That informality is part of why his foreign policy is perceived as impotent. Protocol is very important, and diplomacy stands on formality.
> 
> This is not the worst diplomatic faux pas I’ve ever seen, but it’s certainly not the way you do business with the most powerful countries in the world.

Right. His daddy committed the worst one. _barf_

Heeeheheeeeeheheee!

I digress.  
Really, having a go at his table manners comes down to one very important thing. When your job is to behave in a certain way when hobnobbing with other Very Important People and they regard you as a crap-flinging primate (with sincere apologies to other crap-flinging primates) you aren’t going to get taken seriously or at least without massive derision, and that really isn’t the goal.

Or IS it? Muaaahahahaaaahahaaaa!!!

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-youre-not-at-a-frat-party-you-dick/365036/14 "2006-07-18T17:05:13Z")

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> [@Nutty Bunny](#):
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> Good God! Is it that long? Really?? This seems like the longest presidency in my lifetime.

Yes it is. I made a spreadsheet which I refer to daily to check the total number of days, hours, minutes, and seconds until he leaves. There are now less than 80,000,000 seconds left of his decidership, or if you prefer he has 62.77% of his term remaining.

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**Author:** ![Ruffian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71e660/32.png) [@Ruffian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruffian)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-youre-not-at-a-frat-party-you-dick/365036/15 "2006-07-18T17:06:01Z")

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To all non-American Dopers out there, I apologize on behalf of my country and my (_sigh_) “leader” for the embarrassment that is all things GWB.

GWB is a fucktard. A rich, important-family, arrogant fucktard.

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**Author:** ![Faruiza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecd19e/32.png) [@Faruiza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Faruiza)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-youre-not-at-a-frat-party-you-dick/365036/16 "2006-07-18T17:09:32Z")

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> [@Ruffian](#):
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> To all non-American Dopers out there, I apologize on behalf of my country and my (_sigh_) “leader” for the embarrassment that is all things GWB.
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> GWB is a fucktard. A rich, important-family, arrogant fucktard.

Be careful, **Ruff**!! They won’t play your records anymore!!

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-youre-not-at-a-frat-party-you-dick/365036/17 "2006-07-18T17:09:57Z")

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Let’s see…Bush uses a common term in what he considered a private conversation with a personal friend.

Horrors!  
You people are idiots.

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**Author:** ![Nutty\_Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d07c76/32.png) [@Nutty\_Bunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nutty_Bunny)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-youre-not-at-a-frat-party-you-dick/365036/18 "2006-07-18T17:10:50Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> There are now less than 80,000,000 seconds left of his decidership, or if you prefer he has 62.77% of his term remaining.

None of those sound good to me at all. ☹

Even my grandfather, who used to salute the TV when Bush appeared on the news, is wavering in his support. He’s finally embarassed by him.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-youre-not-at-a-frat-party-you-dick/365036/19 "2006-07-18T17:11:20Z")

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> [@Hentor the Barbarian](#):
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> It was more embarrasing to hear how he addressed other world leaders, especiallly a few days ago at a joint press conference, where he kept referring to the Chancellor of Germany as “Angela.” Would he like her to talk with the press about George? Probably not, because he’s on some power trip.

I doubt it. I think he wouldn’t give two shits if Angela called him George. They supposedly get along swimmingly.

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-youre-not-at-a-frat-party-you-dick/365036/20 "2006-07-18T17:12:15Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Let’s see…Bush uses a common term in what he considered a private conversation with a personal friend.
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> Horrors!  
> You people are idiots.

With all respect, **silenus** , have you seen the clip of him touching the German head of state?

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