# Businesses can have office space at One World Trade Center for under $800 a month.

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**Created:** [February 27, 2015, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/businesses-can-have-office-space-at-one-world-trade-center-for-under-800-a-month/713771 "2015-02-27T15:05:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/businesses-can-have-office-space-at-one-world-trade-center-for-under-800-a-month/713771/1 "2015-02-27T15:05:33Z")

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There has to be a catch. 😛 Is Space Station another word for cubicle? That second photo shows four cubicles. They are partitioned! I don’t think thats acceptable, if you only get one side of that cubicle for $750,. imho Theres no real work space to do anything. I’ve never seen a cubicle that tiny before.  
[http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/real-estate/office-world-trade-center-750-article-1.2130693](http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/real-estate/office-world-trade-center-750-article-1.2130693)  
Still, it would be a great opportunity for a small start up company. Having that address on the company letterhead would get you noticed.

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> For $750 a month, a small number of entrepreneurs will have access to co-working offices known as Space Stations, which come with access to free WiFi, use of the space’s communal kitchen and office facilities — and inspiring views of Lower Manhattan from the Western Hemisphere’s tallest tower.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/businesses-can-have-office-space-at-one-world-trade-center-for-under-800-a-month/713771/2 "2015-02-27T15:28:42Z")

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They got me curious now. Exactly how would a startup company make use of this space? I assume a real desktop computer with dual monitors is out of the question. That means lugging a laptop to work every day. Theres no way to lock up your work area. No place for paperwork. No filing cabinets. I don’t even see any drawers in that cubicle.

There’s so much wasted space in that design. The architect was more concerned with making it pretty and open instead of useful work space. The shared facilities (meeting rooms) seem nice until you think of the waiting list to reserve one.

Wouldn’t a start up be better off using table space at Starbucks? Or even McDonalds?

I bet even this is not much more than a cubicle with a door.

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> The average monthly rent for a private, fully-furnished office will start at $1,850 a month, according to a spokesperson for the company.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/businesses-can-have-office-space-at-one-world-trade-center-for-under-800-a-month/713771/3 "2015-02-27T15:37:33Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> I assume a real desktop computer with dual monitors is out of the question. That means lugging a laptop to work every day.

Yeah. That’s called “every single job I’ve ever had”.

It sounds similar to “hoteling” model a lot of consulting firms and other companies use. You don’t have a permanent desk, or if it is “permanent” it goes into the available pool if you go offsite.

And no. Table space at Starbucks or McDonalds would not be better for reasons that should be obvious.

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/businesses-can-have-office-space-at-one-world-trade-center-for-under-800-a-month/713771/4 "2015-02-27T15:39:47Z")

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It’s largely a gimmick to have a prestigious address. I might go for it if I otherwise needed a business _pied-a-terre_ in the city. My real office would be somewhere else, like the other master suite, as it has been in three houses so far.

It’s like the old PMB gag, before they changed the rules. You could be “500 Fifth Avenue, Suite 875” - which was a basement PO box. (Since around 2000 it’s been required to identify such addresses in business materials as “PMB” for Private Mail Box.)

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/businesses-can-have-office-space-at-one-world-trade-center-for-under-800-a-month/713771/5 "2015-02-27T15:51:23Z")

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I can see paying the $750 to use the meeting rooms for clients. It would all depend on the reservation policy and rules. Heck, we have a sign up sheet on my Dept’s conference room door. Sometimes its not available and I have to take meetings in my office. I can seat 3 in there. (more if I scrounge up some chairs)

I agree an off site office would be essential. I need my workstation and dual monitors. Need my workspace. I like spreading out my paperwork. Organize it. So I can focus on my work.

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**Author:** ![LurkerInNJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed655f/32.png) [@LurkerInNJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkerInNJ)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/businesses-can-have-office-space-at-one-world-trade-center-for-under-800-a-month/713771/6 "2015-02-27T19:09:17Z")

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I rent office space like this. We book the conference room online (a very small one goes for about about $150 to $300 an hour in NYC) and are sent a monthly bill for the setup (drinks, sandwiches, coffee, etc), we pay rent for our desk, a phone line that they answer and mail that they forward to us on a permanent basis. It’s fantastic when you want to impress clients from Tokyo with your new satellite SoHo office instead of dragging them out to NJ for meetings.

We don’t have a “PMB” identifier. It’s a business center from which we rent space. Our clients cannot tell. We are listed in the building directory.

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**Author:** ![LurkerInNJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed655f/32.png) [@LurkerInNJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkerInNJ)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/businesses-can-have-office-space-at-one-world-trade-center-for-under-800-a-month/713771/7 "2015-02-27T19:12:02Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> You don’t have a permanent desk, or if it is “permanent” it goes into the available pool if you go offsite.

You can get an office that locks. It all depends on what you want to pay for. Some businesses rent on a yearly basis and stay for years.

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**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/businesses-can-have-office-space-at-one-world-trade-center-for-under-800-a-month/713771/8 "2015-02-27T22:05:19Z")

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For startups it’s often a way to network with others renting in the same location as well. Starting up a business in your home can be a pretty isolating experience.

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**Author:** ![Cabin\_Fever\_1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cabin_fever_1/32/2908_2.png) [@Cabin\_Fever\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cabin_Fever_1)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/businesses-can-have-office-space-at-one-world-trade-center-for-under-800-a-month/713771/9 "2015-02-27T22:39:23Z")

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Location. Location. Location.  
I wouldn’t pay it.

Whether it is real doesn’t matter.  
In this day and age, I don’t care anymore if my address is 5th Ave NYC, Ghetto-ville Silicon Valley, Swank Street London, or anywhere else.

Need to meet? Need to impress?  
Conference rooms are a dime a dozen around the world.  
Come meet me in Montana for breakfast on the fresh trout we just caught.  
Then we’ll talk business.  
🆒

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/businesses-can-have-office-space-at-one-world-trade-center-for-under-800-a-month/713771/10 "2015-02-27T22:47:01Z")

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Co-working spaces are not a new concept.

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**Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/businesses-can-have-office-space-at-one-world-trade-center-for-under-800-a-month/713771/11 "2015-02-27T22:57:39Z")

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Anyway, hope you get my drift.  
Don’t be a sucker, which is what is being portrayed here according to those links.

It won’t make you more productive, and anyone with half a brain will see through it.  
Use that money for something more useful, creative. Something to make you stand out.  
Then when you get your 15 million upstart funding. rent a few floors there instead of a closet.  
YMMV depending on the culture of your business…

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/businesses-can-have-office-space-at-one-world-trade-center-for-under-800-a-month/713771/12 "2015-02-27T23:19:38Z")

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> [@Cabin\_Fever](#):
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> Location. Location. Location.  
> I wouldn’t pay it.
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> Whether it is real doesn’t matter.  
> In this day and age, I don’t care anymore if my address is 5th Ave NYC, Ghetto-ville Silicon Valley, Swank Street London, or anywhere else.
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> Need to meet? Need to impress?  
> Conference rooms are a dime a dozen around the world.  
> Come meet me in Montana for breakfast on the fresh trout we just caught.  
> Then we’ll talk business.  
> 🆒

Sure. Just as soon as they extend the **N** / **R** subway line to Montana.

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**Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/businesses-can-have-office-space-at-one-world-trade-center-for-under-800-a-month/713771/13 "2015-02-27T23:38:04Z")

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I could live there…?

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2015, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/businesses-can-have-office-space-at-one-world-trade-center-for-under-800-a-month/713771/14 "2015-02-28T18:21:21Z")

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I wouldn’t consider this setup at the Trade Center. The workspace is too small. (based on that photo of a partitioned cubicle. )

Office shares seem like a good idea. Find one at a less exclusive address that offers real work space. A 12x12 room at an absolute minimum. That can accommodate two or three people,a desk, a few chairs, and a large work table. Maybe a file cabinet. Then you have a real work space. A Office share that gives access to a conference room, kitchen and maybe a receptionist would be quite nice and useful for a small startup.

The Trade Center views may be spectacular but they aren’t worth a cubicle three feet wide. Thats just a waste of the money people pay them.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2015, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/businesses-can-have-office-space-at-one-world-trade-center-for-under-800-a-month/713771/15 "2015-02-28T18:53:58Z")

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What’s a file cabinet? Is that like a telegraph?

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The also say

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> An average executive office at Servcorp’s facility is available for about the price of a studio apartment. The average monthly rent for a private, fully-furnished office will start at $1,850 a month, according to a spokesperson for the company.

$1,850 for a studio apartment? Either I’m being whooshed, or the entire population of New York City is.

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**Post date:** [February 28, 2015, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/businesses-can-have-office-space-at-one-world-trade-center-for-under-800-a-month/713771/17 "2015-02-28T19:17:09Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> The also say  
> $1,850 for a studio apartment? Either I’m being whooshed, or the entire population of New York City is.

Do you think that’s too low or high?

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**Post date:** [February 28, 2015, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/businesses-can-have-office-space-at-one-world-trade-center-for-under-800-a-month/713771/18 "2015-02-28T20:40:31Z")

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Surprise, surprise. The OP is surprised and confused by new business concepts.

Here in DC, the going rate for similar workspaces is $15 an hour in much less prestigious locations. If one were to work 50 hours a month in such a workspace, the monthly rated quoted is a better deal.

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**Author:** ![rsa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@rsa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rsa)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2015, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/businesses-can-have-office-space-at-one-world-trade-center-for-under-800-a-month/713771/19 "2015-02-28T20:52:47Z")

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Why wouldn’t you just live in it. It’d be cheaper than any apartment in NYC.

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**Post date:** [February 28, 2015, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/businesses-can-have-office-space-at-one-world-trade-center-for-under-800-a-month/713771/20 "2015-02-28T21:13:07Z")

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> [@rsa](#):
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> Why wouldn’t you just live in it. It’d be cheaper than any apartment in NYC.

Because it’s the width of an office chair.

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