# busted **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 24, 2001, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busted/59316 "2001-03-24T15:50:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Monster104](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Monster104](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monster104)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2001, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busted/59316/21 "2001-03-25T00:28:23Z")
You know, today I saw an accident involving a guy in a green Jaguar. He was cutting off people right and left while speeding about 20 over the limit. The car he smashed into had a parent and 3 kids in it. Two of the kids were injured. I guess all people who drive Jaguars are reckless assholes endangering society. :rolleyes: My friend was hit while making a left turn. A person driving a Corolla was speeding and ran a red light. The only reason my friend didn’t die or get seriously hurt is because he was driving an Explorer, which is much more sturdy than the Corolla. Look, FatherIamawhineyjackasswhojustwantsmasturbatingmaterial, get a life. You’re being annoying. I suggest a new term for us with intellectual reasoning capabilities: DNFTI ---
**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2001, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busted/59316/22 "2001-03-25T00:46:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by stofsky \* > Wow, my first simulpost! Was it good for you? ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2001, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busted/59316/23 "2001-03-25T01:41:54Z")
I kinda hoped **fatherjohn** got busted whilst putting anti-SUV stickers on an Explorer. Damn. Good luck, **JohnJohn** , you’re gonna need it. ---
**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2001, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busted/59316/24 "2001-03-25T03:32:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by stofsky \* > Listen, cumrag, I get off in that exit lane This is quite funny if you read it by itself. ---
**Author:** ![Philster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/13edae/32.png) [@Philster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philster)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2001, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busted/59316/25 "2001-03-25T05:15:07Z")
Holy Shit! Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the… fatherjohn, you must have an theory at work here. C’mon! Entertain us. How’s it go? theory - People who are inclined to pull dumb ass stunts while driving are more likely to buy SUVs? theory - Or, people who buy SUVs are then affected by said SUV and feel like they can drive like dumb asses? So far, SUV complaints logged by fjohn: 1. driven by macho poseurs 2. not used to full utility 3. unsafe 4. driven recklessly 5. failed to prove, especially when contradicted by his points about women driving them and by calling them suburban family cruisers 6. made some points, but arguement loses steam when we realize that many vehicles are under utilized, and it’s hard to know how many SUVs are used for their utility, to what %, etc. Somebody is doing all the fun things that involve towing, camping, off roading, working, etc. Just not SUV owners, according to fj. 7. made some points, but too much data to consider. Even when passenger in SUV is considered safe, fjohn declares that their safety came the exspense of someone else. Try arguing with that reasoning! 8. newest generalization - love how it’s not disguised. fj comes right out and points out one SUV owner fatherjohn, what kind of vehicle do you drive. WHAT is the vehicle of your choice. WHAT do YOU drive. Come clean. How many seats/doors/miles, etc. You have got to be kidding. You have got to be kidding. What is the ideal vehicle that would maximize everyone’s utility, provide maximum protection for all. Maybe just a certain class of vehicles… WHAT IS THE MAGIC FUCKING VEHICLE THAT IS SAFEST, MAXIMIZES UTILTY, DOESN’T CAUSE DRIVERS TO BE ASSES, DOESN’T MAKE OWNER LOOK LIKE A POSEUR??? WHAT IS THE CAR??? PLEASE EDUCATE US! ---
**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2001, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busted/59316/26 "2001-03-25T05:35:21Z")
Oh, gee_whillikers_, my infommercial Ronco Ginsu Label Maker can’t keep up with the demand! Lessee if I have the designated hate list updated…SUV drivers, circumscison, people who quote word by word, people who don’t cite anything, liberals, conservatives, fundies, atheists, pagans, unnatural sexual acts, lack of unnatural sexual acts, road rage idiots in expensive cars, smokers, anti-smokers, vegetarians, carnivores, fat people, thin people, people of any race, men, women, gays, straights, censors, porn freaks, aggressive drivers, slow drivers, people who write checks in supermarket lines, old people, young people, conspiracy theorists, debunkers, people of any nationality, lawyers, deadbeats, rule interpreters, rule scoffers, computer nerds, computer cluelessness, drinkers, soccer fans, abstainers, virgins, all types of music and movies, doctors… Gee, wonder if more acronyms would help? Veb ---
**Author:** ![andygirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@andygirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andygirl)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2001, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busted/59316/27 "2001-03-25T05:49:26Z")
Veb, you forgot bisexuals and reporters. Oh, and moderators. 😉 I’m just trying to be helpful, you know. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2001, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busted/59316/28 "2001-03-25T07:49:41Z")
Okay, let’s see… **father** :wally starts an anti-SUV thread. When his “arguments” are thoroughly debunked, he starts _another_ one. After five pages of his shrillness, which was countered by responses reasonable and brutal (and often amusing), _that_ thread gets closed. So then he waits until he sees an SUV driver being a jerk… and starts _yet another_ anti-SUV thread, but this time with a title that would hide its content from the bad SUV drivers with their data, logical arguments, and most importantly, _cites_! :rolleyes: Isn’t that jerkish behaviour? Isn’t there a rule against that? ---
**Author:** ![Feynn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecb155/32.png) [@Feynn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feynn)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2001, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busted/59316/29 "2001-03-25T08:23:00Z")
I am just going to go out on a limb and say that if this fuckwit in the Explorer does this every morning (how does Fatherjohn know this?) it has nothing to do with his driving an Explorer. He would drive like this even if he drove a Civic and he deserved the ticket. Will this stop him from being a fuckwit? I think not. John - Please tell us what you drive so we can base our opinions on you on something other than your incessant wailing about how much you hate SUV’s. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2001, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busted/59316/30 "2001-03-25T09:14:21Z")
Is it just me, or does Ol’ John’s “:rolleyes:” remind anyone of “LOL too funny!”? ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2001, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busted/59316/31 "2001-03-25T09:50:26Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by **stofsky** _ > > “Look at me, I’m a bigger one trick pony than Exprit\*”… > > \*I called him that first, starting the firestorm. I can use it again 🙂 I’d be impressed if you knew how to spell my name, too. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![stofsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@stofsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stofsky)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2001, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busted/59316/32 "2001-03-25T12:05:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Esprix \* > \*\*I’d be impressed if you knew how to spell my name, too. > > Esprix \*\* Mea culpa. I didn’t verify. ---
**Author:** ![fatherjohn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b2d939/32.png) [@fatherjohn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fatherjohn)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2001, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busted/59316/33 "2001-03-25T13:37:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Philster \* > \*\* > theory - People who are inclined to pull dumb ass stunts while driving are more likely to buy SUVs? > \*\* It’s interesting that people assume I’m trying to make a broad statement about SUV’s or SUV drivers. I did that (quite convincingly, if i do say so myself) in another thread. See also [http://poseur.4x4.org](http://poseur.4x4.org) Yes, I dislike SUV’s. But make no mistake, I started this thread as a Personal Rant ™. If you want to bash **small cars** and/or their drivers, by all means start your own thread. I did not start this thread to argue about the merits of SUV’s, although, if anyone tries to morph this thread into a broader discussion, I’ll be happy to respond. I started this thread to express my satisfaction over seeing justice being done. So, feel free to let me Rant in Peace ™. But have a nice day! :wally ---
**Author:** ![Protesilaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Protesilaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Protesilaus)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2001, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busted/59316/34 "2001-03-25T15:17:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by fatherjohn \* > **I did that (quite convincingly, if i do say so myself) in another thread.** You’d have to say so yourself. An objective observer would state that you had no idea what the hell you were talking about. > [@](#): > > **See also [http://poseur.4x4.org](http://poseur.4x4.org)** Ah, the infamous satire site. Why do I have a feeling that if **fatherjohn** read _A Modest Proposal_ he’d use it as evidence they eat babies in England? **TVeblen** , don’t forget [police officers](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=60985)! ---
**Author:** ![Greyson3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/258eb7/32.png) [@Greyson3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greyson3)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2001, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busted/59316/35 "2001-03-25T16:45:17Z")
Philster said: > [@](#): > > WHAT IS THE MAGIC FUCKING VEHICLE THAT IS SAFEST, MAXIMIZES UTILTY, DOESN’T CAUSE DRIVERS TO BE ASSES, DOESN’T MAKE OWNER LOOK LIKE A POSEUR??? WHAT IS THE CAR??? [Haven’t you figured it out yet?](http://www.cozycoupe.com/toyfinder/productsfull.asp?sku=4991) ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2001, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busted/59316/36 "2001-03-25T18:22:15Z")
**Greyson3** I had one of those before I got my Toyota. Getting that thing to pass emissions was a bitch and it had surprisingly small trunk space. But man-o-man, that thing was a babe magnet. They couldn’t stay away. Oh, and DNFTF. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Cynical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Mr.Cynical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Cynical)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2001, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busted/59316/37 "2001-03-25T19:19:27Z")
['Nuff Said.](http://www.myworldorder.com/images/thisthreadsucks.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2001, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busted/59316/38 "2001-03-25T20:02:18Z")
> [@](#): > > Yes, I dislike SUV’s. But make no mistake, I started this thread as a Personal Rant You’re a liar. You started this thread so you can make your sorry ass feel better by spouting more of your bullshit. If you truly meant for this to be a personal rant, A: you wouldn’t have gotten pissy on the people who disagreed with you, and B: you wouldn’t have mentioned your little shitsite at all. You’re just up to your old bullshit. I’m wondering, though… what percentage, exactly, of your posts have been in these anti-SUV threads? > [@](#): > > I did not start this thread to argue about the merits of SUV’s, although, if anyone tries to morph this thread into a broader discussion, I’ll be happy to respond. Again, you’re a liar. In more than seven pages from the other two threads, you never responded to a cogent point with a counter-point. Why should we believe you’ll start now? > [@](#): > > I started this thread to express my satisfaction over seeing justice being done. So, feel free to let me Rant in Peace Feel free to shove a hand grenade deep into your rectum. Although there might not be enough room as you’re so full of shit. ---
**Author:** ![fatherjohn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b2d939/32.png) [@fatherjohn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fatherjohn)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2001, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busted/59316/39 "2001-03-25T23:46:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SPOOFE Bo Diddly \* > \*\* > Feel free to shove a hand grenade deep into your rectum. Although there might not be enough room as you’re so full of [expletive deleted] \*\* :rolleyes: There ain’t nothin’ in the world like a sore loser. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2001, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busted/59316/40 "2001-03-25T23:59:04Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by **fatherjohn** _ > > There ain’t nothin’ in the world like a sore loser. Sure there is - an ignorant moron who thinks he won. Esprix [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busted/59316.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busted/59316.md?page=3)