# Busting the Moon Hoax believers

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busting-the-moon-hoax-believers/550935>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [August 21, 2010, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busting-the-moon-hoax-believers/550935 "2010-08-21T02:00:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busting-the-moon-hoax-believers/550935/61 "2010-09-29T05:14:24Z")

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I have a childhood memory of touching a moon rock. I recall it was in a glass box with a small hole in the side and you could put a finger in and touch it.

But I have no recollection of where this occurred. Does this sound familiar to anyone?

eta: I’ve been to Johnson Space Center. Do they have an exhibit like that?

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busting-the-moon-hoax-believers/550935/62 "2010-09-29T07:02:35Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Sounds like it’s this[footage](http://www.universetoday.com/74531/long-lost-apollo-footage-was-actually-released-in-2009/), available for a year now.

Further details about that restored footage and the story of the search for the lost tapes:  
[http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106637066](http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106637066)

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**Author:** ![scamartistry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@scamartistry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scamartistry)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busting-the-moon-hoax-believers/550935/63 "2010-09-29T13:45:48Z")

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> [@Ironcross](#):
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> I know we went to the moon. I have touched a moon rock at both the Cape and the Air and Space museum.

Oh so you actually TOUCHED a rock, wow  
I guess case is closed then, most people think they know that the moonlandnings happened. But you Reeeeeeeallly KNOW KNOW, you did after all touch a rock.

Ladies and gentlemen, conpsiracy theorists. We can all go home, the dispute has been settled: he TOUCHED A ROCK! game over!  
what more proof could anyone need?

settled.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2010, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busting-the-moon-hoax-believers/550935/64 "2010-09-30T01:16:43Z")

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> [@scamartistry](#):
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> Oh so you actually TOUCHED a rock, wow  
> I guess case is closed then, most people think they know that the moonlandnings happened. But you Reeeeeeeallly KNOW KNOW, you did after all touch a rock.
> 
> Ladies and gentlemen, conpsiracy theorists. We can all go home, the dispute has been settled: he TOUCHED A ROCK! game over!  
> what more proof could anyone need?
> 
> settled.

I’m sorry, was that a question, or an answer?

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2010, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busting-the-moon-hoax-believers/550935/65 "2010-09-30T01:21:16Z")

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> [@scamartistry](#):
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> Ladies and gentlemen, conpsiracy theorists. We can all go home, the dispute has been settled: he TOUCHED A ROCK! game over!  
> what more proof could anyone need?

Hey man, you should see where I touched an astronaut. 😃

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**Author:** ![RedSwinglineOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a9adbd/32.png) [@RedSwinglineOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedSwinglineOne)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2010, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busting-the-moon-hoax-believers/550935/66 "2010-09-30T17:28:23Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> Hey man, you should see where I touched an astronaut. 😃

On the sound stage? 😉

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2010, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busting-the-moon-hoax-believers/550935/67 "2010-09-30T17:30:28Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> > [@scamartistry](#):
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> > Ladies and gentlemen, conpsiracy theorists. We can all go home, the dispute has been settled: he TOUCHED A ROCK! game over!  
> > what more proof could anyone need?
> 
> Hey man, you should see where I touched an astronaut. 😃

Proof of rocketry?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2010, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busting-the-moon-hoax-believers/550935/68 "2010-09-30T18:54:01Z")

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> [@scamartistry](#):
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> Oh so you actually TOUCHED a rock, wow  
> I guess case is closed then, most people think they know that the moonlandnings happened. But you Reeeeeeeallly KNOW KNOW, you did after all touch a rock.
> 
> Ladies and gentlemen, conpsiracy theorists. We can all go home, the dispute has been settled: he TOUCHED A ROCK! game over!  
> what more proof could anyone need?
> 
> settled.

It’s more evidence than the moon hoax crowd has ever presented.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2010, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busting-the-moon-hoax-believers/550935/69 "2010-09-30T18:59:35Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> It’s more evidence than the moon hoax crowd has ever presented.

Actually, I’d say it’s about perfectly their level of “evidence.” There are a lot of great rebuttals to people who claim we didn’t land on the moon, but “I touched a moon rock” isn’t one of them.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2010, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busting-the-moon-hoax-believers/550935/70 "2010-09-30T19:47:52Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> > [@scamartistry](#):
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> > Ladies and gentlemen, conpsiracy theorists. We can all go home, the dispute has been settled: he TOUCHED A ROCK! game over!  
> > what more proof could anyone need?
> 
> Hey man, you should see where I touched an astronaut. 😃

Did he moon you?

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2010, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busting-the-moon-hoax-believers/550935/71 "2010-09-30T20:21:40Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> > [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> > Hey man, you should see where I touched an astronaut. 😃
> 
> Did he moon you?

He tried to, but I said, “I don’t want to see Uranus!”

[rimshot]

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2010, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busting-the-moon-hoax-believers/550935/72 "2010-09-30T21:24:25Z")

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> [@unclelem](#):
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> But we do have images of the landing sites taken from lunar orbit thanks to the LRO:
> 
> [Apollo Landing sites imaged by LRO](http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/07/17/apollo-landing-sites-imaged-by-lro/)

Mate, I know this is a cool image in theory, but on it’s face it may as well be the Loch Ness Monster.

Perhaps in a few years we’ll have truly awesome resolution of that same shot, and that will really be impressive. As it sits, there’s not a lot of difference between it and the Face on Mars.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2010, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busting-the-moon-hoax-believers/550935/73 "2010-09-30T22:35:56Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> It’s more evidence than the moon hoax crowd has ever presented.

Was it determined that the moon and the Earth were once the same body? Is there any way to prove that a moon rock is indeed from the Moon and nor Earth?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busting-the-moon-hoax-believers/550935/74 "2010-10-01T00:15:01Z")

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[They’ve managed to convince Neil Armstrong](http://www.theonion.com/articles/conspiracy-theorist-convinces-neil-armstrong-moon,2796/)😃

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busting-the-moon-hoax-believers/550935/75 "2010-10-01T00:43:07Z")

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Just call [Buzz Aldrin.](http://www.csicop.org/news/show/buzz_aldrin_punches_moon-landing_conspiracy_theorist)

🙂

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**Author:** ![MrFloppy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/43a26b/32.png) [@MrFloppy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrFloppy)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busting-the-moon-hoax-believers/550935/76 "2010-10-01T01:37:49Z")

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I would just love to hear the initial conversation between NASA and Boeing, Grumman and North American.

“Look, we want you to build this honking great big rocket, fly it to the moon with a lunar lander in it but when we get there were just going to fly around the moon a few times and not actually land. Now, I understand that you have about 100,000 engineers and contractors that you’re going to let loose on this project, you can’t tell a single one about our little prank so guess what, they’re going to have to design and build a vehicle that can umm…actually land on the moon and come back”.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busting-the-moon-hoax-believers/550935/77 "2010-10-01T01:42:29Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Just call [Buzz Aldrin.](http://www.csicop.org/news/show/buzz_aldrin_punches_moon-landing_conspiracy_theorist)
> 
> 🙂

The video just blew me away. I mean, I heard about it before and was impressed. But that man can _punch_!

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busting-the-moon-hoax-believers/550935/78 "2010-10-01T01:44:03Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> 🙂

The video just blew me away. I mean, I heard about it before and was impressed. But that man can _punch_!  
[/QUOTE]

Yeah, pretty cool at 72.

Not bad at orbital rendezvous, either. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busting-the-moon-hoax-believers/550935/79 "2010-10-01T15:00:09Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> He tried to, but I said, “I don’t want to see Uranus!”

At which point he said, “That’s a planet, not a moon,” and shoved it in your face anyway.

> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Was it determined that the moon and the Earth were once the same body? Is there any way to prove that a moon rock is indeed from the Moon and nor Earth?

They have different chemical compositions, or [something like that](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_rock). The problem is not proving that a rock is from the moon–the problem is proving that we got the moon rock by _landing and picking it up_, versus some sort of unmanned collection and/or a rock that was collected on the Earth (a meteorite). Having a rock from the moon isn’t proof that we went there any more than a Honolulu magnet on my fridge would be proof I went to Hawaii.

Like I said, there’s lots of good evidence that we landed people on the moon–this just isn’t it.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/busting-the-moon-hoax-believers/550935/80 "2010-10-01T21:47:48Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> > [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> > He tried to, but I said, “I don’t want to see Uranus!”
> 
> At which point he said, “That’s a planet, not a moon,” and shoved it in your face anyway.

Too bad it wasn’t a space station.

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