# But Does Hillary Clinton Have the PERSONALITY to Get Elected? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 14, 2015, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-does-hillary-clinton-have-the-personality-to-get-elected/731183 "2015-09-14T07:52:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-does-hillary-clinton-have-the-personality-to-get-elected/731183/21 "2015-09-14T23:29:59Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > [2016 General Election Polls: Trump vs. Clinton | RealClearPolling](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html) > > [2016 General Election: Bush vs. Clinton | RealClearPolling](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_bush_vs_clinton-3827.html) > > Clinton is statistically tied with the GOP candidates > > Biden, however, enjoys sizeable leads: > > [2016 General Election: Bush vs. Biden | RealClearPolling](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_bush_vs_biden-3828.html) > > [2016 General Election: Trump vs. Biden | RealClearPolling](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_biden-5568.html) That ignores that Biden has little chance of being the nominee. And that anti-Clinton Dems, who would likely vote for Clinton if it came down to it, want someone else. Saying she’s not the most electable is a bit far fetched. Biden has half her support. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2015, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-does-hillary-clinton-have-the-personality-to-get-elected/731183/22 "2015-09-15T00:08:47Z")
Electable is in how a candidate does against opponents from the other party. Biden does better than Clinton, and Sanders only slightly less well than Clinton. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2015, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-does-hillary-clinton-have-the-personality-to-get-elected/731183/23 "2015-09-15T00:13:14Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Electable is in how a candidate does against opponents from the other party. Biden does better than Clinton, and Sanders only slightly less well than Clinton. Fair enough. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2015, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-does-hillary-clinton-have-the-personality-to-get-elected/731183/24 "2015-09-15T04:04:58Z")
Wow. You’re being pretty harsh. I think she’s crooked. I don’t want to be in a party led by her and her pig of a husband. I think they represent yuppie entitlement, contempt for the poor and less “high-achieving,” rape culture (or something in spitting distance from it), and the betrayal of the social liberal tradition. But robotic? That’s just mean, and I think unfair. ---
**Author:** ![bosbfdsfd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@bosbfdsfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bosbfdsfd)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2015, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-does-hillary-clinton-have-the-personality-to-get-elected/731183/25 "2015-09-15T04:28:22Z")
> [@Jim\_B](#): > > I at least think Hillary Clinton would make a good president. She’s liberal on most social issues, and strong on defense. > > My beef with her isn’t that she’d make a bad president. It’s that she just doesn’t have the _personality_ to win people’s hearts. > > She comes off as mean, and emotionless. > > It shouldn’t be a personality contest. But I think sadly for most voters it is. > > Here, this expresses my feelings best: > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxgRUyzgs0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxgRUyzgs0) > > 🙂 She’d have to have a personality in the first place. But she has the vagina to be President, which is all that’s required of her halfwit supporters. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2015, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-does-hillary-clinton-have-the-personality-to-get-elected/731183/26 "2015-09-15T07:14:25Z")
> [@bosbfdsfd](#): > > She’d have to have a personality in the first place. But she has the vagina to be President, which is all that’s required of her halfwit supporters. Surely she has a personality; she is human, after all. Does she, in your opinion, have any supporters that aren’t halfwits? Do you believe anyone else believes she has any qualifications besides a vagina? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2015, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-does-hillary-clinton-have-the-personality-to-get-elected/731183/27 "2015-09-15T14:53:29Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > Wow. You’re being pretty harsh. > > I think she’s crooked. I don’t want to be in a party led by her and her pig of a husband. I think they represent yuppie entitlement, contempt for the poor and less “high-achieving,” rape culture (or something in spitting distance from it), and the betrayal of the social liberal tradition. > > But robotic? That’s just mean, and I think unfair. Dishonest? Sure. Entitled? Oh yeah. But crooked? No. One reason that Clinton supporters get away with suggesting there is no real scandal attached to her is because the Clintons have never sought to illegally enrich themselves or kneecap their political opponents. Their scandals are based on personal problems, Bill’s womanizing and Hillary’s obsession with secrecy and privacy. It’s amazing that people with those problems were ever able to get into high office, but part of the reason they did succeed is because their issues never led to actual corruption like it would for less intelligent or focused politicians. ---
**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/848f3c/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_Dunlop)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2015, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-does-hillary-clinton-have-the-personality-to-get-elected/731183/28 "2015-09-15T15:07:13Z")
> [@LonghornDave](#): > > She’s so incredibly phony and unlikable. She exudes phoniness with an extra dash of a smug attitude that she thinks everyone is falling for it. I was listening to All Things Considered last night and they were playing clips of her and her campaign surrogates answering questions about whether they merely deleted e-mails or if she had the data on the server permanently wiped. The official response was to condescendingly dismiss the question by saying they don’t even know what \*wipe \*means. This stupid e-mail scandal has been dragging her down for months, but nobody in the campaign can be bothered to take 60 seconds to explain to her what the word ‘wipe’ means? That’s about how long it took for everyone listening to NPR who didn’t already know to learn what it means. To me, the smug, phony way she dismissed the question was the perfect example of why she’s so unlikable. It’s going to be a nauseating presidential election. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2015, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-does-hillary-clinton-have-the-personality-to-get-elected/731183/29 "2015-09-15T17:13:39Z")
> [@LonghornDave](#): > > [This picture really sums it up perfectly for me.](http://1i8ibg3klw7e1wkleh2sxxq5.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/clinton-lets-get-this-over-with.jpg) That is just perfect! ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2015, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-does-hillary-clinton-have-the-personality-to-get-elected/731183/30 "2015-09-15T21:36:01Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Trump also comes off as genuine. You know who Donald Trump is, and you take it or leave it. Most voters will leave it, but what Trump is doing is making more authentic candidates who are less bombastic look good by comparison. Know who else was a bombastic, genuine, emotional nationalist with an overly-aggressive combover? Now I’m wondering if Trump was ever turned out from art school. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2015, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-does-hillary-clinton-have-the-personality-to-get-elected/731183/31 "2015-09-15T22:35:07Z")
Bombastic genuine nationalists have existed in every country, many of them lauded by liberals as heroes. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2015, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-does-hillary-clinton-have-the-personality-to-get-elected/731183/32 "2015-09-15T23:50:54Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Dishonest? Sure. Entitled? Oh yeah. But crooked? No. One reason that Clinton supporters get away with suggesting there is no real scandal attached to her is because the Clintons have never sought to illegally enrich themselves or kneecap their political opponents. Their scandals are based on personal problems, Bill’s womanizing and Hillary’s obsession with secrecy and privacy. It’s amazing that people with those problems were ever able to get into high office, but part of the reason they did succeed is because their issues never led to actual corruption like it would for less intelligent or focused politicians. No, I’m pretty sure it’s the actual corruption. [Hillary’s Cash Cows And Other Sweet Deals](http://www.newsweek.com/hillarys-cash-cows-and-other-sweet-deals-186812) Newsweek, April 1994: > [@](#): > > Hillary Clinton made a financial killing in a sweetheart deal in cattle futures. The deal in itself was legal-but Chirelstein says Mrs. Clinton never put up any money of her own. Because it was arranged by a lawyer for Tyson Foods, a major player in Arkansas, it smacks of political favoritism. “It’s one of those things somebody gets put into a good thing,” Chirelstein said. “It’s harmless, but it doesn’t look wonderful, does it?” > [snip] > “There weren’t any checks,” he says. “This fellow Blair seems to have said, ‘You can have a fractional interest in my trading in these cattle futures. If I make money, you get a share. If I lose, you have to take your share of the loss’.” > > Chirelstein said he knows of no contract that required Mrs. Clinton to repay such a loss, which means her “investment” could be considered by some to be a gift. Republicans are bound to wonder whether Blair. whose business interests were dependent on state government, would ever have demanded that a loss be covered. > [snip] > Bill and Hillary Clinton’s tax returns for 1977,1978 and 1979 contain some clues about why they have been reluctant to make them available to the public. The returns show that the Clintons’ adjusted income rose sharply-from $41,731 to $158,495-during those years, and that much of it came from trading in cattle futures. There are actually a few politicians who don’t play the game this way, and some of us would prefer not to have the leader of the party be someone quite so ready to wheedle favors from “friends” on the basis of her position. These are red flags. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2015, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-does-hillary-clinton-have-the-personality-to-get-elected/731183/33 "2015-09-15T23:54:26Z")
That much I agree with. We can do better. The Democrats have four fine candidates running with a fifth in the wings. There’s just no reason to settle. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-does-hillary-clinton-have-the-personality-to-get-elected/731183.md?page=1)