# But His Phone Calls...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-his-phone-calls/823490>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 25, 2018, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-his-phone-calls/823490 "2018-10-25T10:42:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-his-phone-calls/823490/1 "2018-10-25T10:42:43Z")

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[LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP!](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/24/us/politics/trump-phone-security.html)

No, of course not. But the President of the United States yaks with his friends all night on an unsecured iPhone that Russian and Chinese spies are apparently listening in on.

> [@](#):
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> White House officials say they can only hope he refrains from discussing classified information when he is on them….They said they had further confidence he was not spilling secrets because he rarely digs into the details of the intelligence he is shown and is not well versed in the operational specifics of military or covert activities.

But we know how careless he is with classified info when he does know it, so who knows what our adversaries have learned from him.

So we’re basically relying on the President’s ignorance of and lack of interest in learning the things that a normal President would routinely know. Lordy.

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**Author:** ![JB99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/439d5e/32.png) [@JB99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JB99)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-his-phone-calls/823490/2 "2018-10-25T11:10:26Z")

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Everything Trump does is right, and everything Hillary does is wrong, even when it’s the same thing. And if it was wrong when Hillary did it, it becomes right because Trump did it.

Welcome to America!

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-his-phone-calls/823490/3 "2018-10-25T11:28:43Z")

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Yeah, but her e-mails.  
This trumps (sorry) all else.  
Never forget how a Republican responsibility avoiding mind works.  
Her e-mails.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-his-phone-calls/823490/4 "2018-10-25T12:18:03Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Yeah, but her e-mails.  
> This trumps (sorry) all else.  
> Never forget how a Republican responsibility avoiding mind works.  
> Her e-mails.

Benghazi ! Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi !

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-his-phone-calls/823490/5 "2018-10-25T12:40:05Z")

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> They said they had further confidence he was not spilling secrets because he rarely digs into the details of the intelligence he is shown and is not well versed in the operational specifics of military or covert activities.

Also, he lies all the time so he’s unlikely to reveal any true facts.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-his-phone-calls/823490/6 "2018-10-25T12:46:11Z")

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The actual defense is “he’s too stupid to know anything worth spying on.” I guess that’s better?

_puts on MAGA hat_  
Actually, it’s legal for the President to give away national secrets to our enemies. This doesn’t matter U-S-A U-S-A!  
_takes off MAGA hat_

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-his-phone-calls/823490/7 "2018-10-25T12:55:00Z")

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OBAMA’S GONNA CAUSE HYPERINFLATION!!! BUY GOLD NOW!!!

Meanwhile, trillion dollar deficits.:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-his-phone-calls/823490/8 "2018-10-25T13:46:00Z")

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What I’m looking forward to is the latest pithy drive-by **Shodan** , highlighting this glaring example of Republican hypocrisy.

Yep, any minute now, I’m sure…

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**Author:** ![Celidin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Celidin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celidin)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-his-phone-calls/823490/9 "2018-10-25T15:24:30Z")

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I only follow these people because they make me laugh sometimes. Like today.

> [@RoguePOTUSStaff](#):
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> > [@Donald J Trump via Unfollow Trump](#):
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> > The so-called experts on Trump over at the New York Times wrote a long and boring article on my cellphone usage that is so incorrect I do not have time here to correct it. I only use Government Phones, and have only one seldom used government cell phone. Story is soooo wrong!
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> …POTUS tweeted, from a non-government, unsecured cellphone.

> <https://twitter.com/RoguePOTUSStaff/status/1055424567274098688>
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> Unfollow Trump @UnfollowTrump

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-his-phone-calls/823490/10 "2018-10-25T23:59:36Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> [LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP!](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/24/us/politics/trump-phone-security.html)  
> No, of course not. But the President of the United States yaks with his friends all night on an unsecured iPhone that Russian and Chinese spies are apparently listening in on.  
> …

Anyone want to bet how many times from now into the future we’ll have to listen to Republican pols and pundits going on and on and on about how great a threat to national security Hillary’s never-hacked email system was, in grave tones of solemn concern, in response to questions about Spoiled Brat’s unsecured-cell-phone use…?

Because they are the masters of both whataboutism, and the denial of reality.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2018, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-his-phone-calls/823490/11 "2018-10-26T13:32:37Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> The actual defense is “he’s too stupid to know anything worth spying on.” I guess that’s better?
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> _puts on MAGA hat_  
> Actually, it’s legal for the President to give away national secrets to our enemies. This doesn’t matter U-S-A U-S-A!  
> _takes off MAGA hat_

A more accurate “defense” would be,

They don’t need to spy on him, because he’ll just TELL them whatever they want to know, and he’s just doing what Putin tells him anyway.

Everything he’s done, is what Putin wanted. Trash NATO. Trash the EU. Trash trade agreements. Quash or interfere with investigations. Give the Russians some Israeli secret information. Helsinki meeting. Divide the country with hateful bile at his nazi rallies. Defend Nazis (fine people).

How FUCKING obvious does it have to be?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2018, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-his-phone-calls/823490/12 "2018-10-26T14:59:31Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> A more accurate “defense” would be,
> 
> They don’t need to spy on him, because he’ll just TELL them whatever they want to know, and he’s just doing what Putin tells him anyway.
> 
> Everything he’s done, is what Putin wanted. Trash NATO. Trash the EU. Trash trade agreements. Quash or interfere with investigations. Give the Russians some Israeli secret information. Helsinki meeting. Divide the country with hateful bile at his nazi rallies. Defend Nazis (fine people).
> 
> **How FUCKING obvious does it have to be?**

Not enough, apparently. Hard to see such things with the head buried in sand.
