# But...Obama Was Going To Take All The Guns! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 16, 2013, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-obama-was-going-to-take-all-the-guns/647405 "2013-01-16T18:23:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-obama-was-going-to-take-all-the-guns/647405/1 "2013-01-16T18:23:45Z")
Well today Obama issued very sensible Executive Orders to help try and contain gun violence. More needs to be done, but its a start. But I am thoroughly confused. The gun fetishists had said Obama was going to take all the guns away and he didn’t. It’s almost as if their paranoid hyperbole is just that. And when is Obama going to address the scourge of video games terrorizing our neighborhood! ---
**Author:** ![3\_20\_59\_or\_bust](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/47e85d/32.png) [@3\_20\_59\_or\_bust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3_20_59_or_bust)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-obama-was-going-to-take-all-the-guns/647405/2 "2013-01-16T18:26:18Z")
I’m actually shocked, and delighted, that Obama and the State of New York are trying to do something. Will it do any good? Maybe not, but at least they’re making an effort. It’s a good first step. Hopefully some other states will follow suit. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-obama-was-going-to-take-all-the-guns/647405/3 "2013-01-16T18:26:33Z")
It’s hard to pay attention to reality when you’re busy gunsturbating like a motherfuck. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-obama-was-going-to-take-all-the-guns/647405/4 "2013-01-16T18:29:10Z")
The gunhumper crowd has been screaming that The Kenyan was going to seize all their guns since he was first elected. The only actions the Obama administration took in the first four years were to strengthen gun owner rights, but everybody just _knew_… Proof that gunpowder smoke lowers IQ. ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-obama-was-going-to-take-all-the-guns/647405/5 "2013-01-16T18:30:37Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > And when is Obama going to address the scourge of video games terrorizing our neighborhood! Biden carefully avoided pointing a finger at video games. I suspect it’s largely because he couldn’t do so without also pointing at movies, and that would displease his Hollywood masters. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-obama-was-going-to-take-all-the-guns/647405/6 "2013-01-16T18:34:44Z")
> [@Balance](#): > > Biden carefully avoided pointing a finger at video games. I suspect it’s largely because he couldn’t do so without also pointing at movies, and that would displease his Hollywood masters. He didn’t talk about video games because it has fuckall to do with it. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-obama-was-going-to-take-all-the-guns/647405/7 "2013-01-16T18:41:29Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > He didn’t talk about video games because it has fuckall to do with it. No, no. The last thing he wanted to do was piss off Clooney and Streisand, the Puppeteers. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-obama-was-going-to-take-all-the-guns/647405/8 "2013-01-16T18:43:17Z")
It’s only the first step of course. We’re going to slide down that slippery slope until President-For-Life Muhammad Obama will take away all guns and knives and Bibles and white women. ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-obama-was-going-to-take-all-the-guns/647405/9 "2013-01-16T18:55:26Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > He didn’t talk about video games because it has fuckall to do with it. You are, of course, correct that games have nothing to do with it. Nevertheless, he met with game industry reps while formulating his recommendations, so games must have been on his mind at that point. There have been too many attempts to blame video games for me to trust politicians to behave rationally about them. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-obama-was-going-to-take-all-the-guns/647405/10 "2013-01-16T19:02:51Z")
There really isn’t a place for reasonable gun owners who also want stricter laws (like myself). The hysteria and melodrama actually make it harder to buy guns than the laws. Case in point. Two years or so ago when my SO and I became gun owners we wanted to join a local range and get involved in the gun community. However we coud not join a single one. Every single range around here was packed full and every owner told us that since Obama was elected, people were so terrified he was going to take all their guns, they joined in droves. Ammunition has also consistently been difficult to come by, as well as magazines, for the same reasons. And right now I wouldn’t even attempt to buy anything, with the hysteria that’s been happening in the last few days. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-obama-was-going-to-take-all-the-guns/647405/11 "2013-01-16T19:07:44Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > And when is Obama going to address the scourge of video games terrorizing our neighborhood! Yeah! When I was younger, a bunch of video games ganged up on me and took all my quarters! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-obama-was-going-to-take-all-the-guns/647405/12 "2013-01-16T19:09:07Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > He didn’t talk about video games because it has fuckall to do with it. Well, sort of. According to Brian Crecente, Obama is calling for the CDC to investigate the causes of gun violence and to see if there’s any links between gun violence and violent video games (and other media), as part of the broader studies he wants the CDC to do. He’s calling for congress to provide $10 million for research. > **[Obama calls for research into link between video games, ‘media images’ and...](https://www.polygon.com/2013/1/16/3882728/obama-calls-for-research-into-link-between-video-games-and-violence)** > > Your source for the latest in video games, sci-fi, fantasy, tabletop games, anime, horror, books, and comics. Like Balance, I’m a little gun-shy of video game “research”, but I’m a big fan of Science, so I guess I don’t mind if we can maybe see about promoting some. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-obama-was-going-to-take-all-the-guns/647405/13 "2013-01-16T19:13:25Z")
Oh good, another circle jerk thread. Who actually proposed that Obama was going to confiscate all guns in the US by executive fiat? Or could that have been a supremely hyperbolic misrepresentation by you lying douchebags? ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-obama-was-going-to-take-all-the-guns/647405/14 "2013-01-16T19:17:18Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Oh good, another circle jerk thread. > > Who actually proposed that Obama was going to confiscate all guns in the US by executive fiat? > > Or could that have been a supremely hyperbolic misrepresentation by you lying douchebags? I just came from the Hannity forums where they’re claiming that this is just the first step in the Leftist Plot to Confiscate All Guns. There’s some hyperbole being slung around, but it ain’t on the Left. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-obama-was-going-to-take-all-the-guns/647405/15 "2013-01-16T19:26:33Z")
> [@Lightnin](#): > > I just came from the Hannity forums where they’re claiming that this is just the first step in the Leftist Plot to Confiscate All Guns. > > There’s some hyperbole being slung around, but it ain’t on the Left. Really, some random unnamed guy on the fucking Sean Hannity forum is your evidence that all gun rights advocates believe that Obama was going to somehow single handedly take all guns out of the US? For fucks sake, even your ridiculous example isn’t hyperbolic. “First step” could mean he thinks it’s the first of dozens of small encroachments on gun ownership in the US that’ll occur over the next century. This is nothing but the exact same circle jerk all of you idiots are engaging in, attacking these ridiculous straw targets and then patting yourselvs on the back to convince each other that you’re right. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-obama-was-going-to-take-all-the-guns/647405/16 "2013-01-16T19:29:03Z")
Well, the [23 actions](http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/16/obama-to-announce-gun-control-proposals-shortly/?hpt=hp_c1) are spectacularly unspectacular. Improve the background check system. Provide training to LEOs for active shooter situations. Require the FBI to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations. Provide incentives for schools to get officers. Research gun violence gun safety technologies and review gun lock/safe standards. Improve and standardize mental health care options. Truly history’s greatest monster. Good thing I stocked up on AR-15s. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-obama-was-going-to-take-all-the-guns/647405/17 "2013-01-16T19:34:06Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Oh good, another circle jerk thread. You say this as if such circular social activity is a _bad_ thing. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-obama-was-going-to-take-all-the-guns/647405/18 "2013-01-16T19:39:27Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Oh good, another circle jerk thread. > > Who actually proposed that Obama was going to confiscate all guns in the US by executive fiat? > > Or could that have been a supremely hyperbolic misrepresentation by you lying douchebags? How about [Senator Rand Paul](http://www.pakalertpress.com/2013/01/15/rand-paul-on-gun-executive-order-threat-obama-is-not-king/)? > [@](#): > > Speaking with CBN News, Paul remarked, “I’m against having a king. I think having a monarch is what we fought the American Revolution over and someone who wants to bypass the Constitution, bypass Congress — that’s someone who wants to act like a king or a monarch.” > > Adding that he had consistently opposed executive orders even under Republican administrations, the Kentucky Senator vowed to “fight tooth and nail” to derail Obama’s gun grab. ETA: _Someone’s_ been fueling this talk, _for the past four years_, about Obama getting ready to take away everyone’s guns - and it hasn’t been the left, OK? We’d been thinking about practically everything else but, until massacres like Aurora and Newtown forced us to realize we can’t ignore this any longer. God_damn_, where are you coming from? ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-obama-was-going-to-take-all-the-guns/647405/19 "2013-01-16T19:40:15Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Oh good, another circle jerk thread. > > Who actually proposed that Obama was going to confiscate all guns in the US by executive fiat? > > Or could that have been a supremely hyperbolic misrepresentation by you lying douchebags? You clearly don’t spend much time on Facebook. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-obama-was-going-to-take-all-the-guns/647405/20 "2013-01-16T19:40:40Z")
Sounds like he’s taking a principled stance against the abuse of executive orders rather than a prediction that Obama was going to send in the gun removal death squads tomorrow. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/but-obama-was-going-to-take-all-the-guns/647405.md?page=2)