# Butt-Hurt Trump Takes to Twitter Again (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 19, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428 "2016-11-19T15:52:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 104
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2061 "2017-07-10T18:12:59Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Tell that to Mayor Daley in 1960. Odds are he gave the election to Kennedy by manipulating physical ballots in Chicago enough to swing Illinois to the D column. > > On the whole, though, paper is good, but I think it’s just as good as a backup. [The myth of the stolen election.](http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/history_lesson/2000/10/was_nixon_robbed.html) Fake news. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2062 "2017-07-10T21:24:54Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > Canada hand-counts ballots and we usually know the results before midnight on election day. It’s not rocket science. I think the main difference is that we have only one election - for our MP. That’s it. One slip of paper with 4 or 5 names on it. The counting is therefore pretty straightforward. The US, on the other hand, has a lot of elections on one ballot. One could conceivably vote for president, Senator, Representative, member of the legislature, Secretary of state, board auditor, board of education, university board of regents, board of directors for natural resources, bond issues, Clerk of the court, district attorney, county treasurer, etc. etc. Hand counting would be a time consuming process indeed! ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2063 "2017-07-10T21:38:07Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Tell that to Mayor Daley in 1960. Odds are he gave the election to Kennedy by manipulating physical ballots in Chicago enough to swing Illinois to the D column. > On the whole, though, paper is good, but I think it’s just as good as a backup. > [@Gorsnak](#): > > Canada hand-counts ballots and we usually know the results before midnight on election day. It’s not rocket science. > [@BobLibDem](#): > > [The myth of the stolen election.](http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/history_lesson/2000/10/was_nixon_robbed.html) Fake news. > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I think the main difference is that we have only one election - for our MP. That’s it. One slip of paper with 4 or 5 names on it. The counting is therefore pretty straightforward. > The US, on the other hand, has a lot of elections on one ballot. One could conceivably vote for president, Senator, Representative, member of the legislature, Secretary of state, board auditor, board of education, university board of regents, board of directors for natural resources, bond issues, Clerk of the court, district attorney, county treasurer, etc. etc. > Hand counting would be a time consuming process indeed! I think we could all live with a little more time being taken, to make sure the whole thing is secure and honest. It’s a trade-off. Save time and get THIS Orange Asshole (Putin’s bitch and a complete clusterfuck) and others like him, or take the time and get it right. Some countries in Europe have already switched BACK to paper. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2064 "2017-07-10T21:38:44Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I think the main difference is that we have only one election - for our MP. That’s it. One slip of paper with 4 or 5 names on it. The counting is therefore pretty straightforward. > > The US, on the other hand, has a lot of elections on one ballot. One could conceivably vote for president, Senator, Representative, member of the legislature, Secretary of state, board auditor, board of education, university board of regents, board of directors for natural resources, bond issues, Clerk of the court, district attorney, county treasurer, etc. etc. > > Hand counting would be a time consuming process indeed! Yes, this is true. The issue is easily solved, though - simply switch to a parliamentary system of government! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2065 "2017-07-10T21:40:55Z")
More seriously, the solution seems pretty obvious to me. Paper ballots, optical scanning and automated counting. Any questions of shenanigans and you can go back and count manually. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2066 "2017-07-10T21:46:23Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > More seriously, the solution seems pretty obvious to me. Paper ballots, optical scanning and automated counting. Any questions of shenanigans and you can go back and count manually. Paper ballots will give us a hard copy paper trail. I’m good with that. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2067 "2017-07-10T21:57:32Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Paper ballots will give us a hard copy paper trail. I’m good with that. Until boxes go mysteriously missing. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2068 "2017-07-10T21:57:39Z")
Quick, Donald. tweet something so we can get back on topic! Oh, wait, 3 am (White House Bathroom Time) is hours away… ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2069 "2017-07-10T22:12:49Z")
> [@wolfman](#): > > Until boxes go mysteriously missing. But that happening across hundreds or thousands of precincts would be obvious. And would have to involve a similar number (at least) of people. ETA: California alone has [22,359 precincts.](http://graphics.latimes.com/election-2016-california-results/) ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2070 "2017-07-10T22:24:35Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > But that happening across hundreds or thousands of precincts would be obvious. > > And would have to involve a similar number (at least) of people. > > ETA: California alone has [22,359 precincts.](http://graphics.latimes.com/election-2016-california-results/) Also, if boxes did go missing, someone would know about it. With all this automated computerized crap, who really knows? With boxes and stubs and receipts etc, you can’t just hit the DELETE key or edit the data. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2071 "2017-07-10T22:25:40Z")
> [@wolfman](#): > > Until boxes go mysteriously missing. That would be tricky. We’ve had mail-in voting here in Oregon for many years. It’s one of the few things both sides agree is a good system. Ballots are mailed out a few weeks before the election. You can fill out your ballot and submit it by mail quickly if you choose, or you can wait right up to election day. You have a deadline to mail or you can drop it off at an approved ballot drop site by 8:00 p.m. on election day. Once submitted, if you like and within 48 hours, you can verify online that your ballot has been received and counted. I worked as an election official in California for quite a number of years. In my experience, it would be pretty hard to steal boxes of ballots. Nothing happens without witnesses, every transfer of ballots is noted, signed for and a paper trail of their handling created. Ballots are then secured by the elections office responsible for a number of years before being destroyed. I’m not saying it can never happen. I’m saying based on my experience, it would be an exceedingly rare occurrence. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2072 "2017-07-10T23:00:56Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Quick, Donald. tweet something so we can get back on topic! > > Oh, wait, 3 am (White House Bathroom Time) is hours away… I’m shocked he hasn’t yet taken credit for defeating ISIS. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2073 "2017-07-10T23:04:17Z")
> [@wolfman](#): > > Until boxes go mysteriously missing. In Canada, where we have ballot boxes stuffed with paper ballots… If someone tried to steal a box, they would be set upon by the steely-eyed, blue haired ladies that patrol the balloting places. They would be beaten soundly with purses and umbrellas. They would be trussed up with support hose and oversized brassieres, until they BEGGED the RCMP to take them away. Seriously, someone did try to remove a ballot box in a federal election once. [It did not end well for them.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Sona) ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2074 "2017-07-10T23:20:23Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > In Canada, where we have ballot boxes stuffed with paper ballots… If someone tried to steal a box, they would be set upon by the steely-eyed, blue haired ladies that patrol the balloting places. They would be beaten soundly with purses and umbrellas. They would be trussed up with support hose and oversized brassieres, until they BEGGED the RCMP to take them away. > > Seriously, someone did try to remove a ballot box in a federal election once. [It did not end well for them.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Sona) I hadn’t heard about this case. It fucking pisses me off. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2075 "2017-07-11T01:11:08Z")
On Trump’s tweet: > [@](#): > > If Chelsea Clinton were asked to hold the seat for her mother,as her mother gave our country away, the Fake News would say CHELSEA FOR PRES! [Chelsea gave a pretty good response:](https://twitter.com/ChelseaClinton/status/884388123748315138) > [@](#): > > Good morning Mr. President. It would never have occurred to my mother or my father to ask me. Were you giving our country away? Hoping not. ---
**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2076 "2017-07-11T01:25:49Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > Oh, no, Graham is a toady too. I only “like” Graham in the sense that he doesn’t appear to be batshit insane. He’s just capable of a good one liner here and there. Oh he makes me laugh but he and McCain are given too much good press, too much credit as a check on Trump when they’re nothing but rubber stamps who occasionally get mouthy if it gets them on national tv. It’s better than the completely spineless, silent GOP and miles better than the actual Trump supporters, but I’m at the “put up or shut up” point with them all. And of course it would have been terrible if either Clinton had had Chelsea fill in for them in a semi-official capacity, but it would have been slightly less terrible since apparently she has a PhD in international relations, so at least on paper she’s qualified in a way that none of the Trump kids are or will ever be. Or can you get a doctorate when you’re in the federal penal system? ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2077 "2017-07-11T05:51:25Z")
Can’t wait to see Traitor Trump’s tweets on his American Psycho son’s antics. Maybe I’ll have popcorn for breakfast tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2078 "2017-07-11T11:41:23Z")
**RETRO SNARK** While we wait for the toddler-in-chief’s next diaper explosion, let us not forget when our “very high IQ” prez flipped his shit on election day, 2012. Clever Donny didn’t realize that the vote totals from the west coast hadn’t been counted and believed Romney had won the popular vote, but lost the electoral college. Was Cheeto calling for violent revolution? _He lost the popular vote by a lot and won the election. We should have a revolution in this country!_ — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2012 _The phoney electoral college made a laughing stock out of our nation. The loser one!_ — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2012 _We can’t let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided!_ — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2012 _Lets fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice! The world is laughing at us._ — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2012 _More votes equals a loss…revolution!_ — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2012 _This election is a total sham and a travesty. We are not a democracy!_ — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2012 _Our country is now in serious and unprecedentedtroubl.e…like never before_ — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2012 _The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy._ — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2012 ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2079 "2017-07-11T11:56:52Z")
How has his light, gassy brain not escaped through his ear holes? He must remain vertical at all times. ---
**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2080 "2017-07-11T12:47:54Z")
Ya know, Trump is deserving of all the scorn and insults that are leveled at him. But the thing that floors me, leaves me speechless, makes me shudder and despair is that nearly 63 million - wrap your brain around that - 62,984,825 people voted for him, for leader of the USA and the ostensibly the “free world”. He is what he is. He hasn’t changed. He’s been an asshole, a conman, a liar, a misogynist and a cheat probably from the moment he was born, but certainly from the moment he stepped into the limelight. And yet sixty two million nine hundred eighty four thousand eight hundred and twenty five Americans voted to make him their president. I don’t think his is the only gassy brain. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428.md?page=103) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428.md?page=105)