# Butt-Hurt Trump Takes to Twitter Again (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 19, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428 "2016-11-19T15:52:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/201 "2016-11-29T23:07:18Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > They don’t listen to Democrats. Stupid people vote stupidly until they are without and starving and crying “Wee! wee! wee! Who’ll take care of Us…?” By then, its usually, “…well why didn’t you Democrats DO anything!?” :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/202 "2016-11-29T23:11:15Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > First question: do professional protesters do this more than amateur protesters? They just do it better. They’re professionals 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/203 "2016-11-29T23:11:45Z")
> [@furt](#): > > Trump makes a statement about his _emotional_ reaction Fifteen year old girls might be expected to share their spur-of-the moment emotional reactions on Twitter. A president-elect, not so much, especially when he’s proposing violating the First Amendment. Trying to defend idiocy just makes you an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/204 "2016-11-29T23:25:15Z")
> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > Where do I start with this? > > 1. Good thing a Trump isn’t a woman. Because the whole making statements based on emotions thingy would have us all wondering if he’s on his period right now. > > 2. It’s crazy he lets himself get emotional about flag burning in the first place. So that isn’t a defense. Emotions are natural, normal and powerful things, and people hoping to succeed in public life understand and use them. There’s a reason Bill Clinton said “I feel your pain.” > [@](#): > > 1. When people criticize him, he sees that akin to them burning the flag? To feel that way means Trump sees support for him as indistinguishable with patriotism. As if he _is_ the United States. Egomaniacal, anyone? I’m not sure what you mean here, exactly, but yes, to the extent he can put himself on the “patriotism” side, that’s what he’d like to do. Knee-jerk responses that take unserious words seriously help him. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/205 "2016-11-29T23:26:01Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Well I sure didn’t vote for him. Apparently a lot of others didn’t either. Yeah, well, a lot of you didn’t vote at _all_, so here you are. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/206 "2016-11-29T23:31:57Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Fifteen year old girls might be expected to share their spur-of-the moment emotional reactions on Twitter. A president-elect, not so much, especially when he’s proposing violating the First Amendment. Apparently Trump doesn’t care about your expectations. > [@](#): > > Trying to defend idiocy just makes you an idiot. No, failing to comprehend the difference between _understanding_ something and _defending_ it – **that** would make me an idiot. I didn’t vote for Trump. I’m uncertain that he will be a successful president. But am nonetheless able to observe and comprehend his rhetorical strategy. It is precisely the visceral anger that Trump arouses in his critics that make them unable to. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/207 "2016-11-29T23:33:30Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Yeah, well, a lot of you didn’t vote at _all_, so here you are. Again, don’t lump us all together. It sounds too much like some sort of “you people” thing. I definitely voted - for Clinton. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/208 "2016-11-29T23:53:13Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Again, don’t lump us all together. Oh, I thought you were _trying_ to pull your country together and heal your differences and unite and all that crap. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/209 "2016-11-30T02:38:50Z")
Did ya? I thought a whole bunch of us were just waiting to see what was going to blow up first. I personally have a “you bought it and you’re gonna break it” thing going, but we’ll see. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/210 "2016-11-30T02:53:41Z")
> [@furt](#): > > …But am nonetheless able to observe and comprehend his rhetorical strategy. It is precisely the visceral anger that Trump arouses in his critics that make them unable to. So, its a savvy tactical maneuver, then? Beneath what appears to be rave and bluster is an eleven-dimension chess playing Vulcan? Cooly deploying his rhetorical judo. With all due awe, seems a bit of a stretch. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/211 "2016-11-30T02:55:07Z")
> [@furt](#): > > I’m uncertain that he will be a successful president. But am nonetheless able to observe and comprehend his rhetorical strategy. It is precisely the visceral anger that Trump arouses in his critics that make them unable to. There’s certainly a valid point in saying Americans can be easily swayed by their emotions, but I’m not inclined to give Trump any credit for discovering how to manipulate this. I expect in his case it’s more of a lucky accident and he’s now developed a Pavlovian response to “make off-the-cuff remark / get positive reinforcement from cheering doofi”. If he isolates himself from most criticism, he can keep that going a very long time, emerging occasionally to lash out at someone for whom the spell didn’t work, insult them, get doofi cheers, repeat. The closest he came to disaster, I expect, was when he went after that Gold Star family. Fortunately for him, they weren’t white or Christian, so he still got enough doofi support to keep his campaign going until the Benghazi/e-mail barrels were reloaded. It’s not an ingenious tactic - it doesn’t have to be, considering the audience. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/212 "2016-11-30T02:56:28Z")
> [@furt](#): > > Apparently Trump doesn’t care about your expectations. > > No, failing to comprehend the difference between _understanding_ something and _defending_ it – **that** would make me an idiot. > > I didn’t vote for Trump. I’m uncertain that he will be a successful president. But am nonetheless able to observe and comprehend his rhetorical strategy. It is precisely the visceral anger that Trump arouses in his critics that make them unable to. I get it. Your point is that the President-elect is a troll. And you regard that as a reasonable strategy for the leader of the most powerful country in the world. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/213 "2016-11-30T03:03:18Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > I get it. Your point is that the President-elect is a troll. And you regard that as a reasonable strategy for the leader of the most powerful country in the world. Well, it was clearly a good strategy to get elected. We can only guess and pre-emptively cringe at what kind of political leader he’ll be. ---
**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/214 "2016-11-30T03:03:48Z")
I think furt is right. Verzonden vanaf mijn iPhone met Tapatalk Pro ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/215 "2016-11-30T03:14:00Z")
I don’t care about your stinkin’ Iphone, even less about Tapatalk. Rendered in Dutch just makes it Eurotrash. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/216 "2016-11-30T03:18:53Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I don’t care about your stinkin’ Iphone, even less about Tapatalk. Rendered in Dutch just makes it Eurotrash. Hey! You’re messing with the picture I’m forming of you as a tolerant person. I understand that Tapatalk appends that message on its own. And if she habitually posts in Dutch, the message will be in Dutch. If you posted a message in French, your Tapatalk sig would be in English. Go ahead. Try it. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/217 "2016-11-30T03:26:07Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > I get it. Your point is that the President-elect is a troll. And you regard that as a reasonable strategy for the leader of the most powerful country in the world. My point is that his approach to the media and communicating with the populace has been _effective_; and that if you look at it dispassionately it’s not that hard to see why. For a year now, all the liberals and all commenters on TV and the internet and whatnot have been saying that “Trump is breaking all the rules” when it comes to campaigning/media/communication. And yet the same people still keep acting surprised and offended when he does things that aren’t “expected” or “reasonable” or “proper” or the way things were done in the past. You can stamp your feet and demand he play by your rules, or you can get smarter and figure out the new ones. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/218 "2016-11-30T03:30:51Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Well I sure didn’t vote for him. Apparently a lot of others didn’t either. Most people didn’t. As for Trump intentionally tweeting just to distract – and I can only hope this is the case, that he doesn’t really believe this shit – he’s still the president-elect, and what he says matters. Saying “Oh, it’s just a tweet” doesn’t cut it. And anyway, I don’t see the media ignoring the scandals to report on his tweets. I see the scandals being reported heavily too. Already mentioned is this morning’s tweet about jail time and taking away citizenship for flag burners. Seriously, WTF? This is a president-elect saying this for public consumption, not Rush Lumbaugh blowing steam on his radio show. And it didn’t seem like he was talking about stripping just naturalized citizens of their citizenship but also born-and-bred Americans such as myself. Huh? How the hell woukd that work? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/219 "2016-11-30T03:34:32Z")
> [@furt](#): > > My point is that his approach to the media and communicating with the populace has been _effective_; and that if you look at it dispassionately it’s not that hard to see why. Yes, but “effective” only at getting him elected - not effective at improving America in any way. Indeed quite the opposite, I’ll venture, in that he fed unrealistic fantasies of using nuclear retaliation, restoring manufacturing jobs, and keeping out immigrants. Beyond the very limited scope of feeding the ego of Donald Trump, I’m not sure what Donald Trump has actually accomplished. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/220 "2016-11-30T03:54:13Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > There’s certainly a valid point in saying Americans can be easily swayed by their emotions, but I’m not inclined to give Trump any credit for discovering how to manipulate this. I expect in his case it’s more of a lucky accident and he’s now developed a Pavlovian response to “make off-the-cuff remark / get positive reinforcement from cheering doofi”. If he isolates himself from most criticism, he can keep that going a very long time, emerging occasionally to lash out at someone for whom the spell didn’t work, insult them, get doofi cheers, repeat. It’s not Americans, and it’s not doofuses; it’s all humans, full stop. He’s spent his whole life studying marketing and sales, and techniques like leading and pacing, mirroring, etc. are second nature to him now. You can flatter yourself that you’re immune to them, but the reality is that all humans are; pretending otherwise just puts you in the position of people who insist their memory is accurate, even though mountains of research show otherwise. Far from isolating himself he _wants_ the criticism. He uses it. He tweets out about defending the flag, and the media jumps all over him about it … but 80% of the public wants to defend the flag, too, and 80% of the public hates the media anyway, so that’s a rhetorical win. If any Democrats go on TV and attack him for it, they look bad, too (I haven’t seen any, which shows they are smarter than the TV people). When critics attack his rhetoric as if it was dialectic – i.e. respond to tweets as if they were serious legislative proposals – they’re doing exactly what he wants. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428.md?page=12)