# Butt-Hurt Trump Takes to Twitter Again (Part 1)

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**Created:** [November 19, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428 "2016-11-19T15:52:34Z")\
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[quote=“bobot, post:2272, topic:772428”]

Speaking of palindromes, have you seen the most wonderful Weird Al spoof of Bob Dylan called “Bob”?  
Lyrically, each line is a palindrome. Genius, I tell ya’.

[/QUOTE]  
That’s fantastic.

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> If Congress is in recess for three days or more, the president can unilaterally appoint people to positions that normally require Senate approval. The fear is that Trump will wait for a recess, fire Sessions, and hire a rubber-stamp AG who will fire Mueller.
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> By holding a pro forma session every few days where a single senator gavels the Senate to order and then adjourns a few minutes later, that possibility is prevented.

It also prevents a [pocket veto.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocket_veto)  
If Trump hadn’t signed the sanctions bill and Congress went on recess before the ten day limit is up, the bill is vetoed after the ten days. Unlike a regular veto, a pocket veto cannot be overridden.

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> It also prevents a [pocket veto.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocket_veto)  
> If Trump hadn’t signed the sanctions bill and Congress went on recess before the ten day limit is up, the bill is vetoed after the ten days. Unlike a regular veto, a pocket veto cannot be overridden.

Two questions:

1. What’s the rationale for not allowing a pocket veto to be overridden? By which I mean, why set it up like this in the first place?

2. How much does a bill have to change for it to be considered a new bill? I assume it has to be more than taking out a comma, but how much more? Does adding or deleting a clause make it a new bill?

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> [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](#):
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> I think the idea was, if you veto and the veto is overridden, you look VERY weak, so that’s out.
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> When the announcement was made that he would sign, there was an effort made to make it seem as though he was involved in dRafting the legislation: he had “negotiated” with Congress and made it a better bill. Made him seem gracious and presidential and a good negotiator; made it seem almost like it was his idea. Well, that was the theory. Don’t know if it would’ve worked. But Trump immediately abandoned that script, so we didn’t have any chance to find out!

That may be the idea - but by vetoing and have it over -ridden - you can pretend to stand for a particular principle.

That signing statement - if he truly believes the bill is that bad - should be the speach he gives when “he has no choice but to veto, even though he knows his veto will likely be overridden”.

His last line in that signing statement (I’m only doing this to bring the country together) rings so hollow that it isn;t funny at all anymore.

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> [@Anny\_Middon](#):
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> 1. What’s the rationale for not allowing a pocket veto to be overridden? By which I mean, why set it up like this in the first place?

Overridden by whom? By definition, a pocket veto only happens when Congress is not in session. I suppose it could be put on hold until they came back, but leaving the status of a bill uncertain for possibly months probably seemed like a bad idea to the drafters of the Constitution.

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I don’t believe they need change a letter in the bill, just repass it in both houses and send back to the president.

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> [@simster](#):
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> That may be the idea - but by vetoing and have it over -ridden - you can pretend to stand for a particular principle.
> 
> That signing statement - if he truly believes the bill is that bad - should be the speach he gives when “he has no choice but to veto, even though he knows his veto will likely be overridden”.
> 
> His last line in that signing statement (I’m only doing this to bring the country together) rings so hollow that it isn;t funny at all anymore.

Right. YOU could say you were standing on principle and I could say I was standing on principle, but I think that for Trump being overridden seems like such a huge loss that it isn’t feasible for him to do that. In Trump world, motivations and interpretations are of course not always what the rest of us would think.

Anyway, you’re probably right, but I don’t think that’s the way Trump viewed it.

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> [@Anny\_Middon](#):
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> Two questions:
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> 1. What’s the rationale for not allowing a pocket veto to be overridden? By which I mean, why set it up like this in the first place?

It’s not that a pocket veto can’t be overridden, so much as that the bill is just dead. It’s like if parliament is dissolved before a bill receives royal assent. There’s nothing stopping the next parliament from re-passing the bill, but they have to start the process over again.

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> Great. That’s just what America needed; a backwards Hitler.

I bet he’s [a reverse vampire](https://youtu.be/GQvlfXbj9A4?t=6m) too!

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I don’t follow the tweets as closely as a lot of folks. Any noticeable decline since Kelly started telling folks what-for? That was going to be one of the metrics by which we could gauge his success as CoS. I know, I know… it’s still too early to predict long term trends, but is there even any initial movement in the right direction?

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I don’t follow the tweets as closely as a lot of folks. Any noticeable decline since Kelly started telling folks what-for? That was going to be one of the metrics by which we could gauge his success as CoS. I know, I know… it’s still too early to predict long term trends, but is there even any initial movement in the right direction?

Some people have commented on it.

> **[Trump keeps social media on-message during Kelly’s first week | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/04/politics/trump-tweets-on-message/index.html)**
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> Minutes after the clock struck 6 a.m. ET on Friday, President Donald Trump was up and tweeting. But he wasn’t voicing displeasure with his own party, the Russia probe or 2016 campaign rival Hillary Clinton.

> **[Something Weird Is Happening With President Trump's Twitter](https://gizmodo.com/something-weird-is-happening-with-president-trumps-twit-1797531716)**
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> President Trump loves Twitter. It’s a direct stream-of-consciousness rant about whatever pops into his mind (or onto cable TV) at any given second. But here at Gizmodo we can’t help but notice that something is a little different this week. The...

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Some people have commented on it.  
> [http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/04/politics/trump-tweets-on-message/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/04/politics/trump-tweets-on-message/index.html)
> 
> [Something Weird Is Happening With President Trump's Twitter](http://gizmodo.com/something-weird-is-happening-with-president-trumps-twit-1797531716)

They might need to bring in Mike Ehrmantraut from _Breaking Bad_ to run things for awhile.

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Some people have commented on it.  
> [http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/04/politics/trump-tweets-on-message/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/04/politics/trump-tweets-on-message/index.html)
> 
> [Something Weird Is Happening With President Trump's Twitter](http://gizmodo.com/something-weird-is-happening-with-president-trumps-twit-1797531716)

Maybe Kelly, McMasters and Mattis threatened to beat the snot out of him?

Sad, the president needs 3 BABYSITTERS.

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Maybe Kelly, McMasters and Mattis threatened to beat the snot out of him?
> 
> Sad, the president needs 3 BABYSITTERS.

8 hour shifts - makes sense.

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Short straw gets the 2 am shift.

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If someone shows him this weeks issue of Newsweek magazine his babysitters are going to have their work cut out for them.

The cover picture

[https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2017/08/04/newsweek-stunning-portrait-lazy-boy-trump/EPoskHcL5gBk78qx9MvcwO/story.html](https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2017/08/04/newsweek-stunning-portrait-lazy-boy-trump/EPoskHcL5gBk78qx9MvcwO/story.html)

And the actual article.

> **[Golf and Television Won't Make America Great Again](https://www.newsweek.com/2017/08/11/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-gop-white-house-potus-bannon-643996.html)**
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> Donald Trump promised "forgotten Americans" he'd be their tireless advocate in the White House. That hasn't quite panned out thus far.

It’s brutal. He’s going to flip out. And you know some ones gonna show it to him.

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Trump tweeted this morning, “Excellent Jobs Numbers just released - and I have only just begun. Many job stifling regulations continue to fall. Movement back to USA!”. That tweet is timed at 5:45 AM. The data had just been released. Under the Office of Management and Budget’s Statistical Policy Directive No. 3, “Except for members of the staff of the agency issuing the principal economic indicator who have been designated by the agency head to provide technical explanations of the data, employees of the Executive Branch shall not comment publicly on the data until at least one hour after the official release time.” And it’s not like Trump didn’t know that, because Sean Spicer did the same thing back in February, and got called out for it.

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Well, OK, you can’t drink the water, that’s a kick in the pants. But the clean-up shift at MacDonald’s is hiring!

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump tweeted this morning, “Excellent Jobs Numbers just released - and I have only just begun. Many job stifling regulations continue to fall. Movement back to USA!”. That tweet is timed at 5:45 AM. The data had just been released. Under the Office of Management and Budget’s Statistical Policy Directive No. 3, “Except for members of the staff of the agency issuing the principal economic indicator who have been designated by the agency head to provide technical explanations of the data, employees of the Executive Branch shall not comment publicly on the data until at least one hour after the official release time.” And it’s not like Trump didn’t know that, because Sean Spicer did the same thing back in February, and got called out for it.

The Obama economy is still chugging along.

Once Trump does the tax cut, get-me-re-elected, textbook republican strategy shuffle, combined with splurge military spending, the Trump economy will put America firmly in the shitter. It’s a slow motion train-wreck, completely unavoidable with republican control of congress, that is utterly predictable and painful to watch.

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> If someone shows him this weeks issue of Newsweek magazine his babysitters are going to have their work cut out for them.
> 
> The cover picture
> 
> [https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2017/08/04/newsweek-stunning-portrait-lazy-boy-trump/EPoskHcL5gBk78qx9MvcwO/story.html](https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2017/08/04/newsweek-stunning-portrait-lazy-boy-trump/EPoskHcL5gBk78qx9MvcwO/story.html)
> 
> And the actual article.
> 
> [Trump, America's Boy King: Golf and Television Won't Make America Great Again - Newsweek](http://www.newsweek.com/2017/08/11/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-gop-white-house-potus-bannon-643996.html)
> 
> It’s brutal. He’s going to flip out. And you know some ones gonna show it to him.

Brutal doesn’t begin to describe it. This could be the thing that causes him to have a rage-induced heart attack. Kudos to them for calling out all the false claims, exaggerations and credit-stealing and for factual comparisons with his immediate predecessors in both parties.

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