# Butt-Hurt Trump Takes to Twitter Again (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 19, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428 "2016-11-19T15:52:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/221 "2016-11-30T04:01:49Z")
> [@furt](#): > > Far from isolating himself he _wants_ the criticism. Oh, please; he notoriously can’t handle even mild criticism without having a tantrum. He’s an incompetent fool who would be in prison or homeless if he hadn’t inherited wealth; not the clever manipulator you claim he is. He didn’t win because he manipulated people, he won because he’s stupid, bigoted scum and stupid, bigoted scum is what millions of people _wanted._ ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/222 "2016-11-30T04:03:08Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Yes, but “effective” only at getting him elected… Seems to me that’s kind of a valuable thing. Campaigns are about getting elected. > [@](#): > > - not effective at improving America in any way. Indeed quite the opposite, I’ll venture, in that he fed unrealistic fantasies of using nuclear retaliation, restoring manufacturing jobs, and keeping out immigrants. Well, that remains to be seen. But if you think “failing to keep every single promise” will doom Trump, you have learned nothing. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/223 "2016-11-30T04:10:24Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > He’s an incompetent fool who would be in prison or homeless if he hadn’t inherited wealth; not the clever manipulator you claim he is. He inherited a million and turned it into a billion. Despite not being handsome or charming, he was a top rated TV star for a decade. Despite never having run for office before, he just won the presidency. That sounds like a pretty smart guy to me. Maybe even someone to learn from. OTOH, you’re an impotent, hate-filled little man raging at the world through his keyboard, so maybe I should take your opinions seriously instead. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/224 "2016-11-30T04:12:43Z")
> [@furt](#): > > But if you think “failing to keep every single promise” will doom Trump, you have learned nothing. True, we’ve learned that the Trump voter is really fucking dim. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/225 "2016-11-30T04:13:12Z")
> [@furt](#): > > It’s not Americans, and it’s not doofuses; it’s all humans, full stop. Well, duh, but America is a large country, it has so _many_ doofuses… Ideally, an advanced nation would keeps its reactionary subculture in check, but this time the doofuses lucked out. Of course, this was after years of careful feeding of their delusions, topped by a dessert of \*Benghazi a la e-mail. \* I admit some gladness that the demagogue that ultimately captured their imaginations wasn’t an overtly religious figure or (more of) an overtly racist one. Trump’s most likely avenue of harming America is likely in service to own greed rather than delusions of hastening the Rapture or purifying the nation. You’ve got a crass Crassus on your hands, or maybe a Boss Twit, only with an even less-developed instinct for public service. And so he can manipulate the masses. That doesn’t speak to his brilliance - it just speaks to their stupidity. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/226 "2016-11-30T04:15:33Z")
> [@furt](#): > > He inherited a million and turned it into a billion. Despite not being handsome or charming, he was a top rated TV star for a decade. Despite never having run for office before, he just won the presidency. That sounds like a pretty smart guy to me. Maybe even someone to learn from. He’s an angry cunt, in a country that’s pissed off. Trump blundered into the presidency. He didn’t win because he was brilliant, he won because Clinton got 4 million fewer votes than Obama. Trump got the same as Romney. > [@](#): > > OTOH, you’re an impotent, hate-filled little man raging at the world through his keyboard, so maybe I should take your opinions seriously instead. I’d take a peek at the log in your eye. ---
**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/227 "2016-11-30T04:26:56Z")
> [@furt](#): > > He’s spent his whole life studying marketing and sales, and techniques like leading and pacing, mirroring, etc. are second nature to him now. If he truly spent that much time studying marketing and sales, many of his business ventures such as Trump steaks, Trump wine, and Trump University wouldn’t be failures or tarnished with fraud allegations. His most successful ventures have been real estate, which were primarily helped by his having a lot of starting capital, being able to get lots of loans due to his starting capital and family name, and the real estate market going mostly steadily upwards throughout his business career. Far from mirroring and other neuro-linguistic programming techniques, Trump’s main skill is his almost unfailing confidence, which he has turned into branding. This is a form of marketing, but is one built primarily on his narcissism and ego. He can speak in soundbytes well enough, sometimes, but hearing him talk uninterrupted for a significant length of time shows that he is no master salesperson who can close a skeptical would-be buyer. > [@](#): > > He inherited a million and turned it into a billion. Despite not being handsome or charming, he was a top rated TV star for a decade. Despite never having run for office before, he just won the presidency. That sounds like a pretty smart guy to me. Without seeing his taxes or his books, we’ll never know his actual net worth. But Trump, again due to his confidence and his near-lack of any open self-doubt, has his own kind of charm and charisma. His secret weapon in TV was also his secret weapon in the campaign that seemed to have attracted a lot of voters - he has no shame. Whereas other conventional candidates would have run and hide after the initial John McCain POW comments or any number of other outrageous remarks, Trump never let any pressure or criticism actually get to him and cause him to apologize (minus the forced, stilted Billy Bush tape apology) or self-reflect. That was something different that a lot of people hadn’t seen before. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/228 "2016-11-30T04:28:58Z")
> [@furt](#): > > He inherited a million and turned it into a billion. Despite not being handsome or charming, he was a top rated TV star for a decade. Despite never having run for office before, he just won the presidency. That sounds like a pretty smart guy to me. Maybe even someone to learn from. > OTOH, you’re an impotent, hate-filled little man raging at the world through his keyboard, so maybe I should take your opinions seriously instead. With the help a few loans. You’ll have to cite that billion. Tax returns will suffice. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/229 "2016-11-30T04:35:27Z")
> [@furt](#): > > Despite not being handsome or charming Uh-oh, keep that up and you’ll be fittin’ for a twittin’. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/230 "2016-11-30T05:15:01Z")
> [@furt](#): > > He inherited a million and turned it into a billion. Notoriously, he did worse than if he’d just stuck the money in safe investments. He’s ruined essentially everything he’s taken a hand in, which is why he restricts himself to “branding” and scams; he can’t do anything else. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/231 "2016-11-30T06:54:26Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Hey! You’re messing with the picture I’m forming of you as a tolerant person. > > I understand that Tapatalk appends that message on its own. And if she habitually posts in Dutch, the message will be in Dutch. If you posted a message in French, your Tapatalk sig would be in English. Go ahead. Try it. You say that now, but wait till they come around to cut your doors in half! And how do we really know that this “tapatalk” thing isn’t another wooden-shoed step towards world domination? ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/232 "2016-11-30T09:00:49Z")
> [@furt](#): > > There’s a reason Bill Clinton said “I feel your pain.” There is also a reason Clinton didn’t say “R U OK hun” like some vapid teenager. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/233 "2016-11-30T11:46:51Z")
> [@furt](#): > > He inherited a million and turned it into a billion. Despite not being handsome or charming, he was a top rated TV star for a decade. Despite never having run for office before, he just won the presidency. That sounds like a pretty smart guy to me. Maybe even someone to learn from. > OTOH, you’re an impotent, hate-filled little man raging at the world through his keyboard, so maybe I should take your opinions seriously instead. Screw trying to raise the level of discourse-the only solution is to jump into that pigpen and be the better pig, right? ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/234 "2016-11-30T15:31:08Z")
> [@furt](#): > > He inherited a million and turned it into a billion. Yep, he’s a genius: [Donald Trump would be richer if he’d have invested in index funds](http://fortune.com/2015/08/20/donald-trump-index-funds/) > [@](#): > > Trump’s net worth has grown about 300% to an estimated $4 billion since 1987, according to a report by the Associated Press. But the real estate mogul would have made even more money if he had just invested in index funds. The AP says that, if Trump had invested in an index fund in 1988, his net worth would be as much as $13 billion. > > The S&P 500 has grown 1,336% since 1988. > > Other billionaires’ net worths have beaten the stock market’s growth in that time. Bill Gates, for example, saw his grow increase 7,173% since 1988 to $80 billion. Warren Buffet’s wealth grew 2,612% in the same time period, to $67.8 billion. But on the other hand, we got Trump Steaks and Vodka, plus his “university”! ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/235 "2016-11-30T15:39:17Z")
Trump believes that if he tweets enough, they can be compiled into a book which will be the cornerstone of the future Trump Library. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/236 "2016-11-30T15:41:21Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > Trump believes that if he tweets enough, they can be compiled into a book which will be the cornerstone of the future Trump Library. Put it on the shelf next to _The Presidency for Dummies_. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/237 "2016-11-30T15:44:28Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > Trump believes that if he tweets enough, they can be compiled into a book which will be the cornerstone of the future **Trump Library.** Don’t you mean “Trump Coffeetable”? ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/238 "2016-11-30T16:24:40Z")
> [@furt](#): > > Good lord, people are dense. > > What, exactly, is anyone supposed to defend? Is there some concrete proposal being put forward? No. He said something on the internet. On _Twitter_, FFS. The medium specifically designed for people to transmit every half-assed idea and feeling that rolls through their head. > > Trump makes a statement about his _emotional_ reaction to flag burning; it’s one that the vast majority of Americans share. When people criticize him, they’re putting themselves on the pro-flag burning side. > > “but first amendment, supreme court, blah blah blah…” Of course. Trump knows all that as well as you do, which is why he’s not making a serious proposal. He’s saying shit on Twitter, and by reflecting the feelings most people have about flag-burning, he builds trust with them; moreover, he makes the people who can’t help criticizing him put themselves on the pro-flag burning side. Your hatred of him lets him live in your head. > > _It’s rhetoric, not dialectic._ Trump has been making fools of people who don’t understand the difference for two years now. When you know the difference, you can meet rhetoric with rhetoric, dialectic with dialectic. When you don’t, you’re a sperg who takes jokes seriously, takes profanity literally, and asks people to “defend your position” on Twitter. I agree that this is the way Trump is using the medium. Basically its bar talk. The sort to things you say in a bar after a few drinks. I doubt that Trump put any more thought into his tweet than dasmoocher did with this post. > [@dasmoocher](#): > > If someone takes his phone away he’ll probably strip search everyone in Trump Tower. The problem is that the president isn’t allowed to engage in bar talk. As Spiderman knows “with great power there must also come, great responsibility.” Saying in a bar “all Muslims are terrorists and we ought to nuke Mecca”. is not going to raise an eyebrow, but the president saying it in public is quite another thing. Also Trump’s ego means that once he says something he won’t back away from it. If I confronted dasmoocher, about his post he would probably admit that it was just a joke and he doesn’t really think that Trump will strip search everyone. But now that he tweeted it Trump will never admit that the revoking of citizenship is not the proper penalty for flag burning. To do so would be to admit that not everything that comes out of his mouth is the truth direct from god. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/239 "2016-11-30T16:36:26Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > I agree that this is the way Trump is using the medium. Basically its bar talk. The sort to things you say in a bar after a few drinks. I doubt that Trump put any more thought into his tweet than dasmoocher did with this post. > The problem is that the president isn’t allowed to engage in bar talk. As Spiderman knows “with great power there must also come, great responsibility.” Saying in a bar “all Muslims are terrorists and we ought to nuke Mecca”. is not going to raise an eyebrow, but the president saying it in public is quite another thing. > > Also Trump’s ego means that once he says something he won’t back away from it. If I confronted dasmoocher, about his post he would probably admit that it was just a joke and he doesn’t really think that Trump will strip search everyone. But now that he tweeted it Trump will never admit that the revoking of citizenship is not the proper penalty for flag burning. To do so would be to admit that not everything that comes out of his mouth is the truth direct from god. My post was a reference to [The Caine Mutiny](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Caine_Mutiny_(film)). Capt Queeg strip searches the crew for a duplicate key he knows doesn’t exist, IIRC. > [@](#): > > When strawberries go missing from the officers’ mess, Queeg is convinced that a sailor has made a duplicate key to the food locker and orders the crew strip-searched to find it. He recounts to Maryk and Keefer a similar situation (when he was an Ensign) where he earned a commendation for uncovering a food theft. Maryk, Keefer, and Keith learn from the departing Ensign Harding (Jerry Paris) that he had already informed Queeg that the mess boys had eaten the strawberries, and that Queeg had threatened to revoke his leave if he revealed that knowledge to anyone else. Queeg follows through with his plan to find the (known by Queeg to be non-existent) key. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/240 "2016-11-30T17:28:38Z")
Interesting article in Slate: [How to Manipulate Donald Trump He’s an emotional weakling, and his recent interviews give us models for dealing with it.](http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/11/how_to_manipulate_donald_trump.html) > [@](#): > > 1. He’s all about reciprocal love. > 2. His reflexes are vindictive. > 3. His ego is fragile. > 4. He craves approval. > 5. He’s easily soothed by flattery. > 6. He’s a softie. > 7. His emotional softness makes him morally weak. > 8. He substitutes popularity for standards of conduct. > 9. He confuses controversy with mystery. > 10. He’s obtuse to the pain he inflicts. > 11. He feels the pain of his allies, not the pain of people different from him. > 12. He’s easily manipulated. > [@](#): > > Trump is virtually lobotomized. Unable to acknowledge his role in stirring up hatred and fear, he blames others. When Stahl told him that “African Americans think there’s a target on their back,” and “Muslims are terrified,” he shrugged that such fears were “built up by the press, because, frankly, they’ll take every single little incident … and they’ll make [it] into an event.” In his interview with the Times, Trump claimed that low black turnout showed how popular he was: “A lot of people didn’t show up, because the African-American community liked me.” The vanity of this man is bottomless. Yep. The second coming of Lincoln, I tells ya. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428.md?page=13)