# Butt-Hurt Trump Takes to Twitter Again (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 19, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428 "2016-11-19T15:52:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 140
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2781 "2017-10-18T16:52:50Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Except Trump. Well, that’s a given. ---
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2782 "2017-10-18T16:53:52Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I don’t think so: Tatterdemalion is saying that Trump meant to say something diplomatic, but it came out coarse and offensive. The family reported his actual words. Nobody’s lying. Right, that is what I was trying to say. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2783 "2017-10-18T18:24:25Z")
Maybe they should hire a human being who _sounds_ like Trump to make those calls. Seriously, could Alec Baldwin playing Trump have done any worse? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2784 "2017-10-18T18:25:40Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Maybe they should hire a human being who _sounds_ like Trump to make those calls. No _human being_ can replicate the sounds of the Howling Yam. ---
**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2785 "2017-10-18T19:13:45Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > SO you’re saying that the widow and the sitting congresswoman are lying, right? You’re saying that you believe, based on what you know about these two women, that they are lying about the content of the conversation? And with all that you know about Mr. Trump, you think it likely that he said something with the tone and content that you describe? > > IS that what you’re saying? Because it sure seems that’s what you’re saying. Dude, get a grip. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2786 "2017-10-18T19:49:01Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > SO you’re saying that the widow and the sitting congresswoman are lying, right? You’re saying that you believe, based on what you know about these two women, that they are lying about the content of the conversation? And with all that you know about Mr. Trump, you think it likely that he said something with the tone and content that you describe? > > IS that what you’re saying? Because it sure seems that’s what you’re saying. Bo, better go throw something down the quarry, son, you’re reading things that are not there. > [@jsc1953](#): > > I don’t think so: Tatterdemalion is saying that Trump meant to say something diplomatic, but it came out coarse and offensive. The family reported his actual words. Nobody’s lying. > [@Tatterdemalion](#): > > Right, that is what I was trying to say. Which I understood quite well. And I think I agree with jsc1953 (is 1953 your year of birth? It is mine also) in that _in his own mind_ Trump said exactly the right thing with exactly the right words and the ‘evil’ Democratic rep is trying to make politics out of his noble act. I think that is what he believes happened. The ‘proof’ will ooze away from the story as he makes it about the Congresswoman and the Widow ‘wronging’ him. IMHO as always. YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2787 "2017-10-18T19:56:41Z")
Did he screw up his condolence calls to the other three Green Berets’ families? Or just the black guy? Could be another dog whistle for his Base. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2788 "2017-10-18T20:20:06Z")
> [@Tatterdemalion](#): > > You know, I am reluctant to give Trump the benefit of the doubt about anything, but is it possible that tried to say something along the lines of, “He knowingly signed up for a difficult and dangerous job, and we honor his heroism.” And it came out as, “He knew what he signed up for.” > > I can easily believe that Trump was undiplomatic, but well intentioned in this case. If Trump’s remark had been well-intentioned, then why did he respond to the report of what he’d said with _this_? > [@](#): > > @realDonaldTrump > Democrat Congresswoman totally fabricated what I said to the wife of a soldier who died in action (and I have proof). Sad! > 4:25 AM - 18 Oct 2017 > If his remark had been well-intentioned, why not simply state what he’d actually meant, (with the “proof” he claims he has, to back that up), and then go on to say that he did honor Sergeant Johnson’s sacrifice and wanted to pay his respects to his widow…? When someone goes on the attack the way Trump did, it’s much more difficult to sell the concept that they were well-intentioned. I’ll add that “he knew what he signed up for” is a fairly common idiom. In general use, it indicates a certain degree of callousness. It’s not an expression of empathy or of sympathy. It’s more of a ‘don’t bother me with this’ sort of statement. One of Trump’s most consistently-displayed qualities is his ever-present alertness to the possibility that he might be _blamed_ for something. My belief is that in this phone call, Trump’s major concern was that the widow know that none of these deaths were “on” Trump. Hence the “he knew what he signed up for” remark. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2789 "2017-10-18T20:32:31Z")
One site is claiming that Trump offered $25,000 to the family of one soldier whom he called to offer condolences to (but then never followed up), but I can only find that one site that’s saying it, so I’m not sure just how true it is. ---
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2790 "2017-10-18T20:34:01Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > If his remark had been well-intentioned, why not simply state what he’d actually meant, (with the “proof” he claims he has, to back that up), and then go on to say that he did honor Sergeant Johnson’s sacrifice and wanted to pay his respects to his widow…? > > When someone goes on the attack the way Trump did, it’s much more difficult to sell the concept that they were well-intentioned. That’s fair, and I don’t want to get sucked into trying to defend the indefensible. Trump did respond to criticism, as he so often does, by attacking. That is indeed another demonstration of why he is totally unfit for the office he holds. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2791 "2017-10-18T20:51:06Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > One site is claiming that Trump offered $25,000 to the family of one soldier whom he called to offer condolences to (but then never followed up), but I can only find that one site that’s saying it, so I’m not sure just how true it is. > **[Trump offered a grieving military father $25,000 in a phone call](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-offered-a-grieving-military-father-25000-in-a-call-but-didnt-follow-through/2017/10/18/8d4cbc8c-b43a-11e7-be94-fabb0f1e9ffb_story.html)** > > “No other president has ever done something like this,” Trump told the late soldier’s father. The man said he has not received the check, but the White House said Wednesday that it was sent. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2792 "2017-10-18T22:10:41Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > If his remark had been well-intentioned, why not simply state what he’d actually meant, (with the “proof” he claims he has, to back that up), and then go on to say that he did honor Sergeant Johnson’s sacrifice and wanted to pay his respects to his widow…? Trump is of course a pathological, habitual liar who is hypersensitive to criticism and instinctively attacks whenever he feels threatened, but I suspect that sometimes he may also just flat out not remember exactly what he said— even recently— because of cognitive decline and/or zero interest in, or attention paid to, what he’s saying at the time. Because he can’t clarify statements that he doesn’t remember making, he reflexively denies instead, hoping to divorce himself from any consequences and keep the plates spinning in the shambles of his mind. He’s a startled kid stammering that he didn’t take a cookie, it’s not his hand in the jar, and the brown streaks on his lips aren’t chocolate, when we all know only the latter deserves the benefit of the doubt. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2793 "2017-10-19T01:29:09Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > One site is claiming that Trump offered $25,000 to the family of one soldier whom he called to offer condolences to (but then never followed up), but I can only find that one site that’s saying it, so I’m not sure just how true it is. [Apparently now the check has been sent](http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/18/politics/donald-trump-personal-check-soldier/index.html)( and it takes 4 months due to process, etc). ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2794 "2017-10-19T01:35:24Z")
Yeah, Trump never sends a check until it’s publicly pointed out that no promised check has been sent. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2795 "2017-10-19T03:26:43Z")
He didn’t pay the family of the little brainwashed girls that sang for him during campaign. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2796 "2017-10-19T03:36:07Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Trump is of course a pathological, habitual liar who is hypersensitive to criticism and instinctively attacks whenever he feels threatened, but I suspect that sometimes he may also just flat out not remember exactly what he said— even recently— because of cognitive decline and/or zero interest in, or attention paid to, what he’s saying at the time. Because he can’t clarify statements that he doesn’t remember making, he reflexively denies instead, hoping to divorce himself from any consequences and keep the plates spinning in the shambles of his mind. > > He’s a startled kid stammering that he didn’t take a cookie, it’s not his hand in the jar, and the brown streaks on his lips aren’t chocolate, when we all know only the latter deserves the benefit of the doubt. Vlad’s in town? But anyway: amazing that so many, online as in the “liberal” media, have been working so hard to try to interpret the ‘he knew what he signed up for’\* remark as maybe-possibly-could-be some sort of sincere attempt at a compliment to the fallen Sergeant Johnson. Even after all we’ve experienced, an astonishing number of people on the left are still trying to give this guy the benefit of the doubt. Nice of them, certainly. Very kind and charitable and nice. But it was clearly (to me, anyway) Trump’s way of saying “hey, lady, don’t blame ME for your husband’s death.” Because he’s all about the escaping responsibility. That’s his brand. \*Note that the White House has not disputed the wording, or at least has declined to state what Trump supposedly said that differs from the version reported by three people who heard the speaker-phone call. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2797 "2017-10-19T11:07:57Z")
> [@simster](#): > > [Apparently now the check has been sent](http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/18/politics/donald-trump-personal-check-soldier/index.html)( and it takes 4 months due to process, etc). The check is in the mail. Heh, yeah, right. _If_ it arrives, what do ya wanna bet he “forgot” to sign it. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2798 "2017-10-19T12:07:24Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Yeah, Trump never sends a check until it’s publicly pointed out that no promised check has been sent. I wonder if he ever sent that “million dollars” to the (hurricane) Harvey victims? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2799 "2017-10-19T12:09:54Z")
> [@CNN](#): > > When asked why it took so long for the funds to be sent, the spokesperson added: “There is a substantial process that can involve multiple agencies anytime the President interacts with the public, especially when transmitting personal funds. In this situation there were other agencies involved.” > > The spokesperson did not say which agencies were involved or elaborate on the process. At minimum? There’s the Department of Finding his Checkbook, a meeting with the Joint Chiefs of Looking for a Pen, and buy-in from President’s Special Committee for Bullshit We Got Called On… ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/2800 "2017-10-19T12:40:08Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > I wonder if he ever sent that “million dollars” to the (hurricane) Harvey victims? Yes, as you could have checked yourself in a couple of minutes of googling. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428.md?page=139) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428.md?page=141)