# Butt-Hurt Trump Takes to Twitter Again (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 19, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428 "2016-11-19T15:52:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 175
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/3481 "2017-11-30T14:48:47Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > What’s disgusting is the way Goebbels- I mean Sarah Sanders- says it simply isn’t important whether the video was real or not, the threat is real and that’s why Donald was so correct in bringing it up. WTF could be next, this worthless administration touting _Protocols of the Elders of Mecca_? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/3482 "2017-11-30T14:49:07Z")
i meant to post this here. > [@Stupid Republican idea of the day](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day/490897/35825): > > Just for shits & giggles, here are Thump’s twitter [stats](https://twittercounter.com/realDonaldTrump). ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/3483 "2017-11-30T14:57:02Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > WTF could be next, this worthless administration touting _Protocols of the Elders of Mecca_? In a week, we’ll learn from your President that Muslims are all cannibals. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/3484 "2017-11-30T15:07:12Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > In a week, we’ll learn from your President that Muslims are all cannibals. Now, now, they’re not _all_ cannibals. Some, I assume, are good people. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/3485 "2017-11-30T15:08:26Z")
Who do you think they’re eating? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/3486 "2017-11-30T15:15:20Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Now, now, they’re not _all_ cannibals. Some, I assume, are good people. > [@The\_Tooth](#): > > Who do you think they’re eating? They don’t want people who are good, they want people who taste good. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/3487 "2017-11-30T15:16:06Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > WTF could be next, this worthless administration touting _Protocols of the Elders of Mecca_? Who is going to be this administration’s Ernst vom Rath? ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/3488 "2017-11-30T15:23:42Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > In a week, we’ll learn from your President that Muslims are all cannibals. To be followed by the rollout of his bacon-scented cologne to ward off the Muslim cannibals. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/3489 "2017-11-30T15:26:03Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > Who do you think they’re eating? You know those kids whose pictures sometimes end up on milk cartons? Eaten by Muslims. Those ‘silver alert’ signs along the freeway, describing some old coot they’re looking for? Eaten by Muslims. But you can learn more about these and other shocking truths currently being ignored by the Lamestream Media, simply by subscribing to my newsletter for the low, low price of $99/year. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/3490 "2017-11-30T18:08:17Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > You know those kids whose pictures sometimes end up on milk cartons? Eaten by Muslims. Those ‘silver alert’ signs along the freeway, describing some old coot they’re looking for? Eaten by Muslims. > > But you can learn more about these and other shocking truths currently being ignored by the Lamestream Media, simply by subscribing to my newsletter for the low, low price of $99/year. WARNING: People denying the existence of Robots may be Robots themselves. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/3491 "2017-11-30T19:27:37Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Anyway you say it, he’s batshit fucking crazy and shouldn’t be in charge of cleaning restrooms at a mall let alone lead the world’s most powerful country. Let’s not be hasty. We could at least give him a toilet brush and a can of Lysol, see what he’s got… ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/3492 "2017-11-30T19:34:01Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Let’s not be hasty. We could at least give him a toilet brush and a can of Lysol, see what he’s got… He’s a germaphobe. He’ll demand a hazmat suit. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/3493 "2017-11-30T20:55:52Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > WARNING: People denying the existence of Robots may be Robots themselves. Yeah, well, you would say that. No robots, no Robot Arms, eh? ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/3494 "2017-12-01T03:54:29Z")
Have those videos actually been debunked? The only factual correction I have seen is that in one video, the man is said to have been born and raised in the Netherlands rather than being a “Muslim migrant”. No one that I have seen has claimed he is not Muslim, or that there is anything factually incorrect about the other videos. They just call them “divisive” and “incendiary”, and hint that they could lead to more terrorism, which is itself kind of a disturbing statement about Islam when you think about it. It reminds me of the people who said cartoonists shouldn’t draw Mohammed, as though that’s where the fault lies. So there’s no misunderstanding, I am certainly not carrying water for Trump. He has incensed me just this week by blatantly lying about his tax plan and claiming it will be bad for rich people like him, not to mention making school lunches less healthy for kids. But like the proverbial stopped clock, I’m having trouble seeing where on this very specific issue he is wrong and Theresa May is right. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/3495 "2017-12-01T04:09:49Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Have those videos actually been debunked? The only factual correction I have seen is that in one video, the man is said to have been born and raised in the Netherlands rather than being a “Muslim migrant”. No one that I have seen has claimed he is not Muslim, or that there is anything factually incorrect about the other videos. They just call them “divisive” and “incendiary”, and hint that they could lead to more terrorism, which is itself kind of a disturbing statement about Islam when you think about it. It reminds me of the people who said cartoonists shouldn’t draw Mohammed, as though that’s where the fault lies. > > So there’s no misunderstanding, I am certainly not carrying water for Trump. He has incensed me just this week by blatantly lying about his tax plan and claiming it will be bad for rich people like him, not to mention making school lunches less healthy for kids. But like the proverbial stopped clock, I’m having trouble seeing where on this very specific issue he is wrong and Theresa May is right. [Snopes on the Dutch Crutch video](https://www.snopes.com/video-beating-dutch-boy-crutches/) > [@](#): > > Although the video is frequently accompanied by the caption “Muslim migrant beats up Dutch boy on crutches,” there is no evidence to support this assertion, which in fact came, like so many other unfortunate assumptions, from its comment section. > > This video was first posted to the web site Dumpert.nl, a popular video portal in the Netherlands, in May 2017. Although the original posting largely focuses on the act of hitting a person on crutches, and it was not shared with any claims about the attacker’s religion, some people on the comment section naturally — and baselessly — assumed that the perpetrator was Muslim. As the video was reposted to other web sites, the unfounded claim that the attacker was a Muslim migrant followed it. > > Shortly after this video was posted to Dumpert.nl, Dutch police officers were able to locate the attacker and arrest him. A news report from the Telegraaf identified him as a 16-year-old boy from Monnickendam. The report made no mention of the boy’s religion. > > Further, when this months-old video was brought back into the spotlight in November 2017 thanks to a retweet from President Trump, Dumpert.nl posted a short article that mocked Trump for sharing the video: [Dutch government response](https://www.elitedaily.com/p/the-dutch-governments-response-to-trumps-fake-muslim-video-tweet-is-just-perfect-6738792) > [@](#): > > But Dutch officials (and websites) weren’t the only ones correcting and condemning the president of the United States after he posted these videos. **After all, he retweeted three of them, not just the one Dutch officials addressed. The additional videos also claim to show a Muslim man destroying a statue of the Virgin Mary, and an “Islamist mob” pushing a boy off of a roof. And all three of them came from the same source: Jayda Fransen, the deputy leader of Britain First** , a far-right fringe group in the UK which has been described as an “ultranationalist, neo-fascist hate group.” [Bonus Snopes from 2015](https://www.snopes.com/muslim-teens-beat-girl/) > [@](#): > > On 22 September 2015, the web site Top Right News posted an entry with the misleading title “Muslim Teen Doesn’t Like What This Girl Is Wearing … Seconds Later He Does the Unthinkable.” That post cited a 21 September 2015 article from the web site Mad World News and a Facebook post as its sources, with the latter having been viewed nearly two million times following its initial publication > > A Facebook post made a full year earlier (18 September 2014) was the original source of the footage, and neither its original poster (who simply said the clip had been forwarded to her) nor subsequent commenters described the assailants as Muslims. Moreover, no commenters indicated that the attack was motivated by a religious objection to the victim’s attire (but indicated the incident had occurred an hour’s drive from Rotterdam) > > Two contemporaneous Dutch news articles published about the incident reported that two boys seen in the video were arrested in connection with the assault (which took place on 18 September 2014), adding that then-current social media rumors claimed it had been precipitated by a dispute involving a scooter: ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/3496 "2017-12-01T05:05:20Z")
That Dutch government response is a Rohrshach test. I don’t see a great refutation, but rather just what I described. In response to claims that the boy is a Muslim migrant, the government says he is not a migrant, and the implication is clear: no dispute of the Muslim part. Then the rest of it is just ad hominem against the person who posted the videos, plus an odd mention of the attacker having been put through some sort of alternative juvenile justice program that sounds like it was a slap on the wrist. Who is that supposed to impress? And instead of people losing their minds and insisting that Twitter should be blocking these videos, why don’t they just calmly make the case that they are misleading or unrepresentative? Cite whatever statistics are needed to make your case and let people judge. But don’t use statistics as “damn lies” like people do when they try to claim that white guys commit more terrorism than Muslim immigrants do in America, when as a percentage of each population that is not even close to being true. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/3497 "2017-12-01T05:13:59Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > In response to claims that the boy is a Muslim migrant, the government says he is not a migrant, and the implication is clear: no dispute of the Muslim part. Is that even their point to dispute? His citizenship status and his age would, I assume, have a bearing on the outcome of the case, so the government would have to have some record of those things. They wouldn’t necessarily even know his religion. If something like this happened in my county, I’d expect the prosecutors to know if it was a juvenile case, and probably to know if the offender was a US citizen, but not to have any easily-accessible record of the offender’s religion. Someone might now, but you wouldn’t be able to look it up in the computer and see the “Muslim: N” field in the database. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/3498 "2017-12-01T14:42:30Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > In response to claims that the boy is a Muslim migrant, the government says he is not a migrant, and the implication is clear: no dispute of the Muslim part. There’s no _evidence_ for the Muslim part. Just as with discussions on this message board, the onus is on the people asserting that he’s a Muslim to back up their claims. Otherwise, they’re just repeating something they read in a comment section. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/3499 "2017-12-01T15:38:22Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Have those videos actually been debunked? As I said upthread, I don’t think it matters whether they’re real or not. Hundreds of violent attacks of \ on \ happen every day somewhere in the world, for any X and Y that share countries. If the point of sharing these three videos is to say “Some Muslims are violent (or vandals)” then well, duh. You can say the same thing of any large group. The only point of sharing a set of videos like this is to say “Look! _Muslims_ simply are violent” i.e. to engage in bigotry. Make a visceral image of what you think all Muslims are. > [@](#): > > They just call them “divisive” and “incendiary”, and hint that they could lead to more terrorism, which is itself kind of a disturbing statement about Islam when you think about it. Did they specify what kind of terrorism? Because in the US there have been a number of hate crimes that I think cross the line into terrorism even if we’re reluctant to use the T word with white people (e.g. charleston, charlottesville etc). But even if it meant Islamic terrorism that’s not a threat. That’s saying that many such groups are \*trying \*to provoke a war of religions. Nothing could advance their cause more than the President implying it’s “us” versus “them”. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/3500 "2017-12-01T16:23:40Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > And instead of people losing their minds and insisting that Twitter should be blocking these videos, why don’t they just calmly make the case that they are misleading or unrepresentative? Cite whatever statistics are needed to make your case and let people judge. But don’t use statistics as “damn lies” like people do when they try to claim that white guys commit more terrorism than Muslim immigrants do in America, when as a percentage of each population that is not even close to being true. Because people don’t read things with big words and statistics. They watch a misleading video, cry “ALL MUSLIMS ARE TRYING TO KILL US!”, then crawl back under their rock to ignore all evidence to the contrary. The President is one of them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428.md?page=174) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428.md?page=176)