# Butt-Hurt Trump Takes to Twitter Again (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 19, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428 "2016-11-19T15:52:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 217
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4321 "2018-06-26T21:03:55Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Waitaminnit…didn’t he just say (like 2 days ago) that Congress should give up on immigration legislation until after the mid-terms? That tweet is also from two days ago but it somehow slipped under our radar. I don’t know which came first. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4322 "2018-06-26T21:24:46Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > And it also sounds an awful lot like a Bill of Attainder, which is expressly forbidden by the Constitution. But then, Trump never bothers checking on constitutionality before running his mouth. This would be the second unconstitutional thing he’s asked for this week. He probably won’t even bother, for he can just as easily maul individual companies like Harley Davidson by tweeting about them and watching their stock slide. And depending on the circumstances, he could claim that he’s protecting American jobs and a lot of his base would lap it up. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4323 "2018-06-26T21:26:15Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Trump is [threatening](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1011584315040419840) to tax Harley Davidson due to the company having the nerve to respond to his tariffs: > > _“A Harley-Davidson should never be built in another country-never! Their employees and customers are already very angry at them. If they move, watch, it will be the beginning of the end - they surrendered, they quit! The Aura will be gone and they will be taxed like never before!”_ > > That’s right, Republican party, the leader of your party which has for decades been the party of no taxes is talking about taxing like never before. Tell me again how you haven’t sold your soul, GOP? They gave tax breaks to the billionaire oligarchs who are helping him destroy democracy – that’s all that matters. A publicly-owned corporation, owned by pensioners and 401K holders nearing retirement? Pfffff! ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4324 "2018-06-26T21:49:48Z")
As much as I hate Trump, I’m having a hard time drumming up any sympathy for Harley Davidson. They got a huge windfall from the GOP tax cut, then turned around and closed their factory in Kansas City, putting a couple thousand people out of work. So fuck them. (I imagine the vast majority of Harley riders to be Trump supporters, so it will be interesting to see how this all plays out.) ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4325 "2018-06-26T21:55:37Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > As much as I hate Trump, I’m having a hard time drumming up any sympathy for Harley Davidson. They got a huge windfall from the GOP tax cut, then turned around and closed their factory in Kansas City, putting a couple thousand people out of work. So fuck them. They closed KC because domestic sales have been steadily dropping for the past 3½ years and international sales aren’t doing that great, either. [cite](http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-harley-davidson-tariffs-20180626-story.html) ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4326 "2018-06-26T21:58:11Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > As much as I hate Trump, I’m having a hard time drumming up any sympathy for Harley Davidson. They got a huge windfall from the GOP tax cut, then turned around and closed their factory in Kansas City, putting a couple thousand people out of work. So fuck them. > > (I imagine the vast majority of Harley riders to be Trump supporters, so it will be interesting to see how this all plays out.) It is specifically not the companies themselves that we are drumming up sympathy for, it is the employees of those companies that are put out of work that we are concerned about. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4327 "2018-06-26T22:03:27Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > As much as I hate Trump, I’m having a hard time drumming up any sympathy for Harley Davidson. They got a huge windfall from the GOP tax cut, then turned around and closed their factory in Kansas City, putting a couple thousand people out of work. So fuck them. > > (I imagine the vast majority of Harley riders to be Trump supporters, so it will be interesting to see how this all plays out.) A couple thousand people out of work, huh? Exactly how many thousand? Any cites? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4328 "2018-06-26T22:04:00Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > As much as I hate Trump, I’m having a hard time drumming up any sympathy for Harley Davidson. They got a huge windfall from the GOP tax cut, then turned around and closed their factory in Kansas City, putting a couple thousand people out of work. So fuck them. > > (I imagine the vast majority of Harley riders to be Trump supporters, so it will be interesting to see how this all plays out.) And that’s what Trump is counting on – that there will be more sympathy for dislocated workers than outrage over the fact that a sitting president is meddling in free enterprise like a dictator in a kleptocracy. And of course Republicans will cheer Trump along. After all, remember how Republicans, in a rare show of unity, cheered Barack Obama as he tried to stick it to British Petroleum in the wake of Deepwater Horizon? Oh, wait – ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4329 "2018-06-26T22:06:17Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > As much as I hate Trump, I’m having a hard time drumming up any sympathy for Harley Davidson. They got a huge windfall from the GOP tax cut, then turned around and closed their factory in Kansas City, putting a couple thousand people out of work. So fuck them. > > (I imagine the vast majority of Harley riders to be Trump supporters, so it will be interesting to see how this all plays out.) The president of Bikers for Trump was on CNN today; blaming Harley (suggesting Indian as an alternative) and defending Trump. He must have fallen on his head without a helmet. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4330 "2018-06-26T22:41:33Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > A couple thousand people out of work, huh? Exactly how many thousand? Any cites? Here’s the Harley Davidson plant closing news. 800 jobs [Harley-Davidson closing Kansas City plant as motorcycle sales fall](https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2018/01/30/harley-davidson-kansas-city-plant-motorcycle-sales-fall/1078008001/) Plus it triggered a supplier’s plant closing. 200 jobs [https://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article213651099.html](https://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article213651099.html) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4331 "2018-06-26T22:58:48Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Here’s the Harley Davidson plant closing news. 800 jobs [Harley-Davidson closing Kansas City plant as motorcycle sales fall](https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2018/01/30/harley-davidson-kansas-city-plant-motorcycle-sales-fall/1078008001/) Thanks! That article says the jobs are moving to York, PA. So a loss to KC but a gain for York, so overall no jobs lost, right? > [@D\_Odds](#): > > Plus it triggered a supplier’s plant closing. 200 jobs [https://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article213651099.html](https://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article213651099.html) And that’s not H-D fault, right? That company should have sought other revenue streams, shouldn’t they? So we go from “thousands of jobs lost” to a couple of hundred lost and those not the responsibility of Harley-Davidson. I was afraid that was going to be the case. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4332 "2018-06-26T23:15:06Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > So a loss to KC but a gain for York, so overall no jobs lost, right? [Not quite a wash](https://www.ydr.com/story/news/2018/06/26/harley-davidson-jobs-europe-york-area-workforce-trump-tariff-trade-war-eu-motorcycle-labor/736325002/). 800 jobs lost in KC; 450 jobs gained in York. Net loss of 350 jobs. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4333 "2018-06-26T23:18:34Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > [Not quite a wash](https://www.ydr.com/story/news/2018/06/26/harley-davidson-jobs-europe-york-area-workforce-trump-tariff-trade-war-eu-motorcycle-labor/736325002/). 800 jobs lost in KC; 450 jobs gained in York. Net loss of 350 jobs. Copy that; 550 jobs lost. Still not thousands. I really think we should strive to be accurate when listing Trumpgressions. To do otherwise opens the door to cries of “lies” or “fake news” or even accusations of idiocy and incompetence. It’s like fighting terrorists: we have to be right all the time but they have no such restrictions. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4334 "2018-06-27T00:18:31Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Copy that; 550 jobs lost. Still not thousands. > > I really think we should strive to be accurate when listing Trumpgressions. To do otherwise opens the door to cries of “lies” or “fake news” or even accusations of idiocy and incompetence. > > It’s like fighting terrorists: we have to be right all the time but they have no such restrictions. My bad - posting from work, going from memory. I should know better than that around here. [This is the article](https://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article197340544.html) I was remembering from several months ago, and botched the numbers. So, 800 jobs lost in Kansas City, 450 jobs added in York, net loss of 350 jobs. My point remains though - HD got their tax cut, took the money and ran. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4335 "2018-06-27T00:42:04Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > …I really think we should strive to be accurate when listing Trumpgressions. To do otherwise opens the door to cries of “lies” or “fake news” or even accusations of idiocy and incompetence. > > It’s like fighting terrorists: we have to be right all the time but they have no such restrictions. I’m not so sure it’s just “like” fighting terrorists. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4336 "2018-06-27T00:48:10Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > And that’s not H-D fault, right? That company should have sought other revenue streams, shouldn’t they? It doesn’t always work that way, especially for small, specialized businesses. Not every business will be able to diversify their specialized operations to serve other, similar companies that need their services. This is especially true if the company you serve knows that they have you by the balls and the supplier can’t negotiate enough of a margin to expand and diversify. I am not saying and don’t know if that’s what happened in KC, but it does happen very often all over. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4337 "2018-06-27T01:14:01Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > My bad - posting from work, going from memory. I should know better than that around here. > > [This is the article](https://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article197340544.html) I was remembering from several months ago, and botched the numbers. So, 800 jobs lost in Kansas City, 450 jobs added in York, net loss of 350 jobs. > > My point remains though - HD got their tax cut, took the money and ran. It did sound like a LOT of jobs lost, so I asked. And didn’t pretty much every company that got a huge tax cut just take the money and run? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4338 "2018-06-27T01:17:01Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > It doesn’t always work that way, especially for small, specialized businesses. Not every business will be able to diversify their specialized operations to serve other, similar companies that need their services. This is especially true if the company you serve knows that they have you by the balls and the supplier can’t negotiate enough of a margin to expand and diversify. I am not saying and don’t know if that’s what happened in KC, but it does happen very often all over. My apologies: I wasn’t really asking. I was anticipating what a Trumpist’s take on it would be. I know the dripping sarcasm prolly didn’t come across as well when you read it as it seemed to when I was typing my post and so I apologize. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4339 "2018-06-27T01:34:46Z")
> [@](#): > > Men of factious tempers, of local prejudices, or of sinister designs, may, by intrigue, by corruption, or by other means, first obtain the suffrages, and then betray the interests, of the people – **James Madison, Federalist #10** First, they get the power. And then they abuse. Competence has nothing to do with it. They’re competent at manipulation, at distorting reality, at playing tribes against one another, and thrashing their enemies. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4340 "2018-06-27T03:48:45Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Trump is fighting for his survival. His plan is to disrupt and destroy, which is all the planning that is necessary to seriously damage the America that has been built over 2 centuries. What Trump needs is help. He’s getting it from Russia, from American oligarchs, from their puppets in Congress, and their MAGAbots that vote for this nonsense. Trump is not waging this war on democracy and decency alone. To disrupt and destroy is always his intent, no matter what the situation. Trump’s way, is to wage war on everyone. He’s a cancer. He always has been. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428.md?page=216) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428.md?page=218)