# Butt-Hurt Trump Takes to Twitter Again (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 19, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428 "2016-11-19T15:52:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 224
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4461 "2018-07-13T02:32:06Z")
South Park scene - They terk er perp! ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2018, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4462 "2018-07-18T16:48:06Z")
Looks like somebody is in a bad mood about being denounced as a foreign lackey: > [@Trumpelthinskin](#): > > While the NATO meeting in Brussels was an acknowledged triumph, with billions of dollars more being put up by member countries at a faster pace, the meeting with Russia may prove to be, in the long run, an even greater success. Many positive things will come out of that meeting… > …Russia has agreed to help with North Korea, where relationships with us are very good and the process is moving along. There is no rush, the sanctions remain! Big benefits and exciting future for North Korea at end of process! > [@Grumpy Trumpy](#): > > So many people at the higher ends of intelligence loved my press conference performance in Helsinki. Putin and I discussed many important subjects at our earlier meeting. We got along well which truly bothered many haters who wanted to see a boxing match. Big results will come! > [@Cadet Bone Spurs](#): > > Some people HATE the fact that I got along well with President Putin of Russia. They would rather go to war than see this. It’s called Trump Derangement Syndrome! ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2018, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4463 "2018-07-18T16:51:18Z")
Why does think we think his job is to act as a fundraiser for NATO? And why would a truly strong nation and/or it’s leader need or want Russia’s “help” to negotiate with North Korea? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4464 "2018-07-18T16:57:39Z")
I have to admit that I would LOVE to see a boxing match between Trump and Putin. No gloves. And give them lead pipes. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4465 "2018-07-18T17:00:34Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I have to admit that I would LOVE to see a boxing match between Trump and Putin. No gloves. And give them lead pipes. Screw that. Give them both machine guns. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2018, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4466 "2018-07-18T17:12:01Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I have to admit that I would LOVE to see a boxing match between Trump and Putin. No gloves. And give them lead pipes. In other words, you’d love to see Putin beat the crap out of Trump. Because that’s the only way this ends. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2018, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4467 "2018-07-18T20:35:21Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > In other words, you’d love to see Putin beat the crap out of Trump. Because that’s the only way this ends. 😃 He already is, and Trump ain’t winning. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4468 "2018-07-18T20:44:28Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Why does think we think his job is to act as a fundraiser for NATO? I seriously think (based on the words dribbling out of his own mouth) that Trump does not understand how NATO works. He thinks it’s a country club, and those slackers in Europe are behind in their dues and we’re covering for them. (In reality, membership in NATO entails a commitment to spend on your own defense. You don’t write a check to NATO…you write a check to your own budget under the line item “defense”.) ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2018, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4469 "2018-07-18T22:33:19Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I seriously think (based on the words dribbling out of his own mouth) that Trump does not understand how NATO works. He thinks it’s a country club, and those slackers in Europe are behind in their dues and we’re covering for them. > > (In reality, membership in NATO entails a commitment to spend on your own defense. You don’t write a check to NATO…you write a check to your own budget under the line item “defense”.) I would not be surprised to learn that months or years ago, Putin’s agents (involved with Trump because he was laundering money for them, etc.) convinced Trump that NATO _does_ work via nations writing checks to the US. And now Trump is all excited, thinking he’s going to get his hands on that imaginary ‘account.’ And of course he wants to make sure there’s as much in the account as possible. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2018, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4470 "2018-07-18T22:50:23Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I seriously think (based on the words dribbling out of his own mouth) that Trump does not understand how NATO works. He thinks it’s a country club, and those slackers in Europe are behind in their dues and we’re covering for them. > > (In reality, membership in NATO entails a commitment to spend on your own defense. You don’t write a check to NATO…you write a check to your own budget under the line item “defense”.) Yes, but they’re required to spend a certain amount of their budget (or is it GDP?) on defense. All member countries benefit from the idea of mutual defense, but they should also all contribute to it. Relying on the U.S. to provide deterrence (in the form of troops and weapons) while other countries spend their money on welfare and health care does mean they’re getting more from the pact than they’re giving. Since countries in Europe are more threatened by a direct invasion than the U.S., you could even make the case that they should contribute more than the relative American share. Trump’s an asshole and an idiot, but I haven’t heard him say anything to suggest he didn’t view Europe’s NATO obligations in that way. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4471 "2018-07-20T11:35:38Z")
Trump tweets out a video with the logo from Russian state TV Channel One. > [Russian state TV Channel One](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_One_Russia?wprov=sfla1) ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4472 "2018-07-20T12:16:18Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Trump tweets out a video with the logo from Russian state TV Channel One. > > [https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1020008975922810883?s=19](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1020008975922810883?s=19) > > [Russian state TV Channel One](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_One_Russia?wprov=sfla1) Well, that’s one way to prevent hacking-style Russian propoganda interventions — do their work for them, in broad daylight! Also, WTF? Who cares what Sec. William Jennings Bryan thought of Czar Nicholas, or whatever? ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4473 "2018-07-20T13:38:24Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Trump tweets out a video with the logo from Russian state TV Channel One. > > [https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1020008975922810883?s=19](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1020008975922810883?s=19) > > [Russian state TV Channel One](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_One_Russia?wprov=sfla1) There is none so easily fooled as those who desperately wish to believe. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4474 "2018-07-20T14:18:57Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Yes, but they’re required to spend a certain amount of their budget (or is it GDP?) on defense. All member countries benefit from the idea of mutual defense, but they should also all contribute to it. Relying on the U.S. to provide deterrence (in the form of troops and weapons) while other countries spend their money on welfare and health care does mean they’re getting more from the pact than they’re giving. Since countries in Europe are more threatened by a direct invasion than the U.S., you could even make the case that they should contribute more than the relative American share. > > Trump’s an asshole and an idiot, but I haven’t heard him say anything to suggest he didn’t view Europe’s NATO obligations in that way. Well, he does seem completely ignorant of the fact that the member countries are NOT in violation of their obligations and when he says they are, he’s lying. The agreement is not for the countries to spend 2% of their GDP on defense now. The agreement is that the countries would work on ramping up their defense budgets and reach 2% by 2024. Which they are doing. And when he says that the NATO countries aren’t paying their share and need to pay up, I think the implication is that they are in default of some sort of payment they owe, like they are some sort of bad roommates that haven’t been paying their share of the cable bill. Which is a lie. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4475 "2018-07-20T15:08:28Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Why does think we think his job is to act as a fundraiser for NATO? If he thinks U.S. taxpayers are being overburdened by having to make up for what other countries are paying for their defense, why is it that one of the first things he did as president was to significantly increase the Defense budget? ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4476 "2018-07-20T16:04:32Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > If he thinks U.S. taxpayers are being overburdened by having to make up for what other countries are paying for their defense, why is it that one of the first things he did as president was to significantly increase the Defense budget? Yep - one of my favorite questions to my friends on the right is “after the NATO countries get to 2%, how much will the US reduce defense spending?” ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4477 "2018-07-20T16:41:54Z")
And really if you wanted a really effective European military structure you’d be supporting a federal arrangement linking economic, social and military standards across member states. That would facilitate comprehensive logistical improvements in moving military forces about and rationalize force structures and power projection. Or not, who the fuck knows anymore ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4478 "2018-07-20T19:30:32Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Trump tweets out a video with the logo from Russian state TV Channel One. > > [https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1020008975922810883?s=19](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1020008975922810883?s=19) > > [Russian state TV Channel One](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_One_Russia?wprov=sfla1) What is he even trying to say by that tweet? That Hillary is a Putin fan? This tweet makes no sense ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4479 "2018-07-20T19:30:41Z")
> [@Grey](#): > > And really if you wanted a really effective European military structure you’d be supporting a federal arrangement linking economic, social and military standards across member states. That would facilitate comprehensive logistical improvements in moving military forces about and rationalize force structures and power projection. > > Or not, who the fuck knows anymore Trump (really meaning Putin) does not want a really effective European military structure. Or an effective EU. The goal is to sabotage it all. No NATO, no EU, no trade alliances. Just an “open range” where Putin can simply grab/invade whatever he wants with no interference. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/4480 "2018-07-20T23:04:21Z")
I get that. You get that. However there is a cadre of Republicans, and the Fuckwit in Chief, convinced an EU peer is a threat to US supremacy instead of a critical ally. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428.md?page=223) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428.md?page=225)