# Butt-Hurt Trump Takes to Twitter Again (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 19, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428 "2016-11-19T15:52:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/81 "2016-11-20T05:45:48Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > The cast member was so outraged that he had to read his rant from a card. 😃 You do know that the statement was written by the show’s creator and read by an actor right? ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/82 "2016-11-20T05:48:46Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Hopefully the human filth that voted for him This rhetoric is why Hillary lost. Congratulations liberals your own assholishness is why Trump won. You fucking assholes. Do you really think that telling someone with a different opinion than you that they are Super Evil Super Satan Super Hitler and that their children should be raped and murdered will convince them to agree with you? Instead of rational calm conversation? Oh, but I know, from what I’ve read on this board, that someone who has a different opinion than you is so Super Duper Evil Satan Hitler that in no way in hell should they be even engaged, is what you’ll say. **BigT** here is your announcement to give me one of your **Patently Awesome Lectures**. Or what I like to call one of your **“pals”** because we are all such “pals” here. Well that is unless some one has a differing opinion. You know, for the Smartest Hippest People on the planet you sure are a bunch of fucking retarded assholes who love to be racist bigoted assholes. Congratulations! You are exactly what you love to hate. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/83 "2016-11-20T06:01:42Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > This rhetoric is why Hillary lost. Congratulations liberals your own assholishness is why Trump won. > > You fucking assholes. > > Do you really think that telling someone with a different opinion than you that they are Super Evil Super Satan Super Hitler and that their children should be raped and murdered will convince them to agree with you? > > Instead of **rational calm conversation**? > > Oh, but I know, from what I’ve read on this board, that someone who has a different opinion than you is so Super Duper Evil Satan Hitler that in no way in hell should they be even engaged, is what you’ll say. **BigT** here is your announcement to give me one of your **Patently Awesome Lectures**. Or what I like to call one of your **“pals”** because we are all such “pals” here. Well that is unless some one has a differing opinion. > > You know, for the Smartest Hippest People on the planet you sure are a bunch of fucking retarded assholes who love to be racist bigoted assholes. > > Congratulations! You are exactly what you love to hate. My bold. You mean, like this post? Way to set an example. ---
**Author:** ![emcee2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@emcee2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emcee2k)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/84 "2016-11-20T06:04:00Z")
“I didn’t want to vote for the racist, but those mean liberals kept calling me racist, so I had to.” ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/85 "2016-11-20T06:40:32Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Check out who he is surrounding himself with. I agree that Trump is inconsistent, has no center, and is a tower of Jell-o. But he’s letting a bunch of genies out of a lot of bottles, and he will not be able to control them. Precisely. Trump may not be that much of a threat to the institutions and security of the United States himself, and I frankly give even odds that he’ll resign within the first half of his term as he either gets bored or does something too egregious for the Republican majority (who has no love for him despite the fact that he’s shown them the winning path) to ignore, and he is forced to resign. (Trump would have no patience for impeachment and a Senate trial.) But Trump appears to be preparing to install some of the most radically reactionary people ever to have control of the apparatus of the nation, and appears to be seeking advisors of similar bent. Setting aside the consequences of abandoning the Paris Agreement on greenhouse gas mitigation, the fact that he or his successor will be installing almost certainly three or more Supreme Court justices, developing deep ties with oligarical Russia, weakening NATO and strategic agreements with other nations such as Japan and South Korea, and generally pulling the temple down on our heads across the board on civil liberties from wiretapping, torture, recognition of LGBT and women’s protections, and the inevitable graft that we’ll see if every indication of what Trump has ever done in the last thirty years of business practice can be taken as indication will all have long term impacts upon the well-being of the nation long after Trump rotting in his gilded tomb. This isn’t just about partisan differences or complaints that if the president doesn’t adhere to progressive principles that momentum will be lost and the clock will turn back a bit; Trump is not Mitt Romney or John McCain or Jeb Bush; he is a politically disinterested wheeler-dealer and vocational radical risk-taker who now holds the future of the nation, and indeed, significant control over the fate of the developed world in his toddler-sized hands. He has the temperment of a petulant child and the capability to hand effective control of the nation to conspiracy nutters and white nationalists. **This is not normal.** Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/86 "2016-11-20T07:06:33Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Not “bury your head”; stop focusing on his trivial offenses with no real lasting impact and turn a shining light on his more abominable actions with horrifying long-term consequences. During this campaign, the media gave Trump a virtually free platform, to the tune of an estimated US$2B, to espouse racist, isolationist, hateful rhetoric in exchange for the recreational outrage of being able to laugh at a clown who is so spitefully petty that he’s maintained a grudge to a beauty pagent contesistant and he can’t help but respond to a satirical allegation about the size of his hands that has been running on approaching three decades. Guess who got the better side of that deal? In fact, it’s probably the best actual deal Donald Trump has ever made. Sure, it’s hard to find something substantive to say about a candidate so superficial and desultory as Trump, but even when the media had stories of genuine substance such as Trump harassing black residents or boasting of sexually molesting women, they carried them for a few days, relying on the outrage factor of being able to say “pussy” on air (or tap dance in amused perfunctory prurience around it), and then moved on to the next bizarrely inappropriate but inconsequential Twitter message or vacuous campaign pledge to do something mildly outrageous. > > The real horror of this entire election has been the normalization of deviance; the things no candidate short of a radical white nationalist movements should be able to espouse without retreating into hiding in a small Caribbean nation from public shaming became the background noise to Trump’s daily antics and fretting over Clinton using a private email server when it is plain that a large number of legislators and officials frequently email sensitive and FOUO information to their Yahoo! and Gmail accounts like they’re sending recipies to their in-laws. The truth is that nearly half of the people who turne out to vote elected a loud-mouthed blowhard who demonstrated zero intent or aptitude to actually following through on the hollow promises and bombast that shat out of his mouth faster than diarrhea from a night of binging on Taco Bell specials, and the opposing main candidate was so poorly received that people literally couldn’t decide against voting between her or a reality show figuring dipped in Nacho Cheese Dorito crumbs. > > In a normal election you have two (or occasionally three) candidates who are critical of each others policies, prior performance, and character to uphold the duties of the office, but never in living memory has a candidate openly leavied unshrouded insults, vengefully threatened repercussions upon taking office, or transparently suggested that his followers should assassinate the opposition. Even if you distrusted or hated Hillary Clinton for any of a number of valid, exaggerated, or totally manufactured reasons, the fact that Trump resorted to this behavior _in the course of a campaign, and even in the middle of what was supposed to be a policy debate_, this is unacceptable behavior by someone seeking the office of municipal dog catcher, much less President of the United States. > > _ **This is not normal.** _ This is historic abnormality in the making. It’s the kind of gross abnormality that gets mentioned in history texts right before a nation goes completely fucking off its rocker and starts killing its own citizens or annexing other nations because it wants a better view. The resigned acceptance of this behavior and of Trump’s “tear down the system” rage-making as being somewhere on the spectrum of things that sometimes happen in a democracy because employment/trade agreements/corrupt banks/whatever is not remotely normal. But by turning away from this behavior and the tacit approval of the Republicans who gathered behind him (and from whom he stole nearly the entire rhetoric from whole cloth, only saturating it with lighting fluid and setting it aflame), and focusing on whatever stupid or offensive thing that Trump tweeted out to the world while taking his 3:40 AM dump, makes it all seem about equivalent in significance and impact. > > Every news story about Donald Trump for the next four years (or however long he remains in office) should start with the words, “This is not normal! (Apologies to John Oliver for stealing his new catchphrase.)” and followed by a detailed examination of how Trump blatantly reneged on some promise to bring jobs or build infrastructure, or how he has issued an executive order in clear violation of Constitutional rights or how he has used his position to increase his personal and family wealth. It shouldn’t be about which beauty pagent contestant or talk show host he said something mildly offensive about, or how he plans to redecorate the White House in gilded gold, and it sure to fuck shouldn’t be about his latest nearly incoherent Twitter war with a comedian or singer. Doing mildly offensive amusing things to keep the outrage meter pegged so that when something actually worthy of outrage comes along (as it inevitably will on a regular basis) is doing a grave disservice to the principle of informing the public about things they actually need to know to make informed decisions. > > Oh, and they also need to stop giving a fuck about Kanye West, too, and any other celebrity who decides to take a ride on the recreational outrage profit train. If you ignore the trolls, they will eventually get bored and go away. > > Stranger > [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Precisely. Trump may not be that much of a threat to the institutions and security of the United States himself, and I frankly give even odds that he’ll resign within the first half of his term as he either gets bored or does something too egregious for the Republican majority (who has no love for him despite the fact that he’s shown them the winning path) to ignore, and he is forced to resign. (Trump would have no patience for impeachment and a Senate trial.) > > But Trump appears to be preparing to install some of the most radically reactionary people ever to have control of the apparatus of the nation, and appears to be seeking advisors of similar bent. Setting aside the consequences of abandoning the Paris Agreement on greenhouse gas mitigation, the fact that he or his successor will be installing almost certainly three or more Supreme Court justices, developing deep ties with oligarical Russia, weakening NATO and strategic agreements with other nations such as Japan and South Korea, and generally pulling the temple down on our heads across the board on civil liberties from wiretapping, torture, recognition of LGBT and women’s protections, and the inevitable graft that we’ll see if every indication of what Trump has ever done in the last thirty years of business practice can be taken as indication will all have long term impacts upon the well-being of the nation long after Trump rotting in his gilded tomb. > > This isn’t just about partisan differences or complaints that if the president doesn’t adhere to progressive principles that momentum will be lost and the clock will turn back a bit; Trump is not Mitt Romney or John McCain or Jeb Bush; he is a politically disinterested wheeler-dealer and vocational radical risk-taker who now holds the future of the nation, and indeed, significant control over the fate of the developed world in his toddler-sized hands. He has the temperment of a petulant child and the capability to hand effective control of the nation to conspiracy nutters and white nationalists. **This is not normal.** > > Stranger TL;DR ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/87 "2016-11-20T07:17:27Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Yes. We should all worry that we are just as bad as the bigots when we shame the bigots. That’s such an original thought that we should all take _totally_ seriously. > > Yeah, we learned humility. We learned that we didn’t have this thing won like we thought. We learned we need to redouble our efforts. Not reduce them. > > Yeah, having Trump as president isn’t normal. THAT’S THE WHOLE REASON WE NEED TO CALL HIM OUT AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY. That’s why half-baked approaches are doomed to failure. We need to attack him and his VP on all fronts. > > We can be kind to the people who are hurting, who voted a racist despite his racism. But the actual racists and homophobes? No, we can’t have “decorum.” Decorum lost. > > Trump lost votes every single time he turned into an asshole on Twitter. So baiting him is 100% the way to move forward. And that means we need to keep track of everything he says. > > We are now in the battle for 2020, and we will win. Or the country will be burned to the ground trying to stop us. Such fire and conviction! Burn the country to the ground even! Explain 2016? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/88 "2016-11-20T07:24:15Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > This rhetoric is why Hillary lost. Congratulations liberals your own assholishness is why Trump won. > > You fucking assholes. > > Do you really think that telling someone with a different opinion than you that they are Super Evil Super Satan Super Hitler and that their children should be raped and murdered will convince them to agree with you? > > Instead of rational calm conversation? > > Oh, but I know, from what I’ve read on this board, that someone who has a different opinion than you is so Super Duper Evil Satan Hitler that in no way in hell should they be even engaged, is what you’ll say. **BigT** here is your announcement to give me one of your **Patently Awesome Lectures**. Or what I like to call one of your **“pals”** because we are all such “pals” here. Well that is unless some one has a differing opinion. > > You know, for the Smartest Hippest People on the planet you sure are a bunch of fucking retarded assholes who love to be racist bigoted assholes. > > Congratulations! You are exactly what you love to hate. They know it and delight in it. Why do you think this board has Pit? It’s to allow their true nature to shine without sanction. If you don’t virtue signal as hard prepare for a barrage of vulgarity. ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/89 "2016-11-20T07:26:07Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > TL;DR Should have, it’s a good read. He bolded the important part [QUOTE=Stranger On A Train] **This is not normal.** [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/90 "2016-11-20T07:27:06Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Explain 2016? The Democrats overestimated the intelligence and morality of the American people. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/91 "2016-11-20T07:49:24Z")
I think Trump may be coming to realize that while he may have won the country for four years, he’s lost New York City forever. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/92 "2016-11-20T08:01:17Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > The Democrats overestimated the intelligence and morality of the American people. Don’t do that! Half the people have \<= 100IQ! Stop overestimating. Didn’t Idiocracy teach you people anything? ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/93 "2016-11-20T10:44:59Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Precisely. Trump may not be that much of a threat to the institutions and security of the United States himself, and I frankly give even odds that he’ll resign within the first half of his term as he either gets bored or does something too egregious for the Republican majority (who has no love for him despite the fact that he’s shown them the winning path) to ignore, and he is forced to resign. (Trump would have no patience for impeachment and a Senate trial.) > > But Trump appears to be preparing to install some of the most radically reactionary people ever to have control of the apparatus of the nation, and appears to be seeking advisors of similar bent. Setting aside the consequences of abandoning the Paris Agreement on greenhouse gas mitigation, the fact that he or his successor will be installing almost certainly three or more Supreme Court justices, developing deep ties with oligarical Russia, weakening NATO and strategic agreements with other nations such as Japan and South Korea, and generally pulling the temple down on our heads across the board on civil liberties from wiretapping, torture, recognition of LGBT and women’s protections, and the inevitable graft that we’ll see if every indication of what Trump has ever done in the last thirty years of business practice can be taken as indication will all have long term impacts upon the well-being of the nation long after Trump rotting in his gilded tomb. > > This isn’t just about partisan differences or complaints that if the president doesn’t adhere to progressive principles that momentum will be lost and the clock will turn back a bit; Trump is not Mitt Romney or John McCain or Jeb Bush; he is a politically disinterested wheeler-dealer and vocational radical risk-taker who now holds the future of the nation, and indeed, significant control over the fate of the developed world in his toddler-sized hands. He has the temperment of a petulant child and the capability to hand effective control of the nation to conspiracy nutters and white nationalists. **This is not normal.** > > Stranger Well said there, Stranger. I doubt Trump will make it to his second anniversary as President, so the damage might not be too bad, but still wtf America!? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/94 "2016-11-20T10:47:58Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > I doubt Trump will make it to his second anniversary as President, so the damage might not be too bad, but still wtf America!? It won’t much matter; Trump alone would be bad, but the Republicans control Congress as well. If Trump dropped dead of heart failure tomorrow we’d still be headed for disaster. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/95 "2016-11-20T13:14:02Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > This rhetoric is why Hillary lost. Congratulations liberals your own assholishness is why Trump won. > > You fucking assholes. > > Do you really think that telling someone with a different opinion than you that they are Super Evil Super Satan Super Hitler and that their children should be raped and murdered will convince them to agree with you? > > Instead of rational calm conversation? > > Oh, but I know, from what I’ve read on this board, that someone who has a different opinion than you is so Super Duper Evil Satan Hitler that in no way in hell should they be even engaged, is what you’ll say. **BigT** here is your announcement to give me one of your **Patently Awesome Lectures**. Or what I like to call one of your **“pals”** because we are all such “pals” here. Well that is unless some one has a differing opinion. > > You know, for the Smartest Hippest People on the planet you sure are a bunch of fucking retarded assholes who love to be racist bigoted assholes. > > Congratulations! You are exactly what you love to hate. The irony of this coming from you is sickening. No, I’m sorry, Mr. Republican Troll Who Never Posts Anything Actually Worth Reading, you don’t get to lecture us on our _tone_ when talking about people who eagerly voted for the clueless, experience-free candidate white nationalists were hailing as the second coming and minorities were constantly restating their terror of. You don’t get to pretend to take the fucking high ground. That’s _bullshit_. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/96 "2016-11-20T13:37:20Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > The irony of this coming from you is sickening. No, I’m sorry, Mr. Republican Troll Who Never Posts Anything Actually Worth Reading, you don’t get to lecture us on our _tone_ when talking about people who eagerly voted for the clueless, experience-free candidate white nationalists were hailing as the second coming and minorities were constantly restating their terror of. You don’t get to pretend to take the fucking high ground. That’s _bullshit_. Yes, the racists won this go around because we liberals were too fucking lazy to separate the wheat from the chaff. Instead of rolling our sleeves up and really trying to figure out why such a large segment of the population were voting for Trump, which BTW had large segments of both women and Hispanics, we liberals were all too eager to label them all witches in this fucking witch hunt. And now, judging from this thread, so many of you still wish to dig your heels in and still cry witch! Good luck with that. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/97 "2016-11-20T14:31:54Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > Well said there, Stranger. > > I doubt Trump will make it to his second anniversary as President, so the damage might not be too bad, but still wtf America!? I donno. He may be able to accept the damage his ego is going to go through by surrounding himself with yes men. And, his supporters will probably not abandon him because he won’t be able to close on any of his promises. They voted against Hillary as much as they voted for Trump. Trump supporters achieved what they wanted, and would like to see trump stir things up as much as possible. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/98 "2016-11-20T14:47:39Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > I doubt he has sufficient attention span to watch a play. Or the wit to appreciate it. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/99 "2016-11-20T14:50:51Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > Yes, the racists won this go around because we liberals were too fucking lazy to separate the wheat from the chaff. > > Instead of rolling our sleeves up and really trying to figure out why such a large segment of the population were voting for Trump, which BTW had large segments of both women and Hispanics, we liberals were all too eager to label them all witches in this fucking witch hunt. This. And I assumed not many people would hold their noses and vote for him. We drastically underestimated the hatred of Hillary Clinton. I have a friend who described herself as ‘horrified’ by Trump being the Republican nominee, but in the end, she voted for him. It helps to understand that while the mainstream and leftwing media was reporting on every Trump scandal and vulgar comment, Republicans were getting a whole different narrative, one that demonized Clinton and liberals just as much as liberals demonized Trump and conservatives. It’s easy to say conservatives just weren’t getting, or ignoring, the ‘‘facts,’’ but each team plays with its own set of facts, and each team plays just as fast and loose with the facts as the other. Our refusal to acknowledge that our views are shaped by public narrative will be the undoing of us all. I wasn’t shocked by Trump’s election, though I was a bit surprised. But there were plenty of statisticians indicating that the polling had a larger margin of error than usual. Nate Silver wasn’t wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/100 "2016-11-20T15:16:37Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > TL;DR Well, now we know why print media and the investigative journalism associated with it is dying. Any ideas or arguements that can’t be presented in 140 characters aren’t worthy of consideration. > [@Grrr](#): > > Instead of rolling our sleeves up and really trying to figure out why such a large segment of the population were voting for Trump, which BTW had large segments of both women and Hispanics, we liberals were all too eager to label them all witches in this fucking witch hunt. > > And now, judging from this thread, so many of you still wish to dig your heels in and still cry witch. I don’t think it is “the liberals” who are being hunted. But quite honestly, this shouldn’t be framed as a “liberals versus conservatives” at this point. The people who voted Trump into the primaries didn’t vote for him based upon his conservative values. Donald Trump is not and has never been either a social or fiscal conservative, and he certainly does not reflect the morals and ethics of social conservatives and Evangelicals. He does not advocate a culture of personal responsibility and integrity, and indeed, his history and behavior displays the very antithesis of conservativeism. Trump promoted himself as the barbarian at the gate, the guy who was going to come in with a wrecking ball and tear the system down, “drain the swamp”, and send profesional politicians packing. He was going to bring back jobs, get rid of all of the dangerous illegal immigrants who are roaming the streets in search of daughters to rape, and and ban Muslims so that ISIS in America will stop constantly blowing up our buildings and going on shooting sprees. That all of these statements are factually unsupportable is irrelevant; Trump tapped into a basic fear that our government is not capable of providing physical safety and economic security, from terrorism and immigration to employment and safe drinking water, and he pledged simple if completely unworkable solutions. He’s basically the Joker come to reality, and he even has a similar countenance and manner of speaking. The essential point here is that what Trump is doing is going to harm everyone in this country in some way, and wil probably harm some of the very people who voted for him the most. That message needs to be pointed out every time he does something of substantive harm to the nation as a whole or to significant parts of it, and it shouldn’t be diluted by outrage over some shitty thing he says on Twitter at a point that normal people are in bed having nightmares about having elected the Star-Spawn of Cthulhu in a bad combover as president. The focus cannot just be on Trump driving his gilded clown car through the halls of government until he is feted and resigns so he can spend more time sniffling through the dressing rooms of beauty pageant contestants or being the focus of a reality TV show, but also on the bevy of hateful reactionary people he is bringing with him and will remain once he is back grabbing pussy as once more a private citizen. There is merit in pointing out that in selecting future candidates and focusing on issues, the Democrats can’t just focus on the wealthy suburban coastline base, and need to pay particular attention to demonstrating that their candidate is not someone who is beholden in any way to the very interests which savaged the economy for their own personal gain. They need to appeal to the mass of people who are looking for actual reform without endorsing the angry Hulk-smash mentality. They need to look beyond provincialism and select a candidate not based upon party loyalty and fundraising ability but who appeals to a wider range of people, and certainly someone who doesn’t enter a race with a predictable net negative approval rating. They’ll go in knowing that the right wing smear machine is going to sling manufactured scandal on a daily basis, but they shouldn’t be giving it any credibility by having a history of nontransparency and poor decision making. But by the same token, the people who voted for Trump this year need to be reminded that even though they may not be racist, misogynistic, or homophobic themselves, when they hate-voted for a candidate who espoused those values, behaved like an ill-mannered toddler, and surrounded himself with people who were genuinely hateful, the result is what we have now. Not just Donald Trump, the Man-Baby President, but all of the shitty people, corrupt lobbyists, and alt-right radical reactionaries that he is brought with him. They need to be reminded that nearly everything Trump has claimed about himself and his values in this election has been a complete fabrication, and the result is going to be the antithesis of what he has promised. Those points need to be made clear so that enough people are not swayed by bombastic demagogues like Trump that there is anything close to this kind of election again. The next time there is a candidate who threatens to jail his opponent _during a policy debate as if he is some kind of Central African strongman_, the point needs to be made plainly that this is not normal or acceptable behavior from someone seeking public office, because by winning this election using those very tactics Trump has made it the new standard and you can bet that other candidates will ape this behavior in trying to get similar results. None of this is normal, and the very fact that essential elements of this campaign appear to have been pulled from _Arrested Development_ to an astonishing degree almost as if Trump had been on a late-night Netflix binge while putting together his strategy should highlight that. Stranger [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428.md?page=6)