# Butt-Hurt Trump Takes to Twitter Again (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 19, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428 "2016-11-19T15:52:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 68
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1341 "2017-05-17T01:50:42Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > You make good points. Sorry if I come across as superior, it is not felt or intended. Perhaps this debate would be better served in a different forum. Would attitudes be different in Great Debates? > > So you aren’t talking about the farmer because he’s not pit-worthy? Fair enough, but he is probably among those who are most susceptible to change. > > Some of the responses I’ve gotten in this thread make me wonder how much of a difference a different forum would make. The natural way to find out is to start such a thread, but my previous experience in trying to start serious threads in GD is that they fall off the first page like a stone. I don’t seem to have the knack for getting sustained interest. But I’ll stop bothering y’all about tactics in this forum. …I’ve [passionately](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=19771355#post19771355)defended some of the people that voted for Trump here in the pit. But the reality is that the typical Trump voter [was richer and more](https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/oct/13/liberal-media-bias-working-class-americans) well off than everyone else. The most common factor with Trump voters was a “[penchant for authoritarianism](http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-2016-authoritarian-213533)”. The farmer is susceptible to change. But they aren’t reading the pit. There really isn’t much to debate. Should you reach out to Trump voters? Sure. If you want. I’m not going to stop you. But we’ve had eight years of reaching out. This [New York Times article](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/17/magazine/what-americans-wrote-to-obama.html) about the Obama era letter office is the most beautiful thing I think I’ve ever read. But Obama is gone now. And the people in the White House now do things like [this](http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sarah-palin-mocks-hillary-clintons-portrait-at-the-white-house-obama-photographer-responds-with-a-single-image/article/2620825). Are you going to reach out to the likes of Sarah Palin and Kid Rock? Or the other thousands of people, who if they had the opportunity, would be doing exactly the same thing? Republicans control everything. And in the first 100 days in office they have shown over and over again that they are not fit to govern. We’ve gone from “no-drama-Obama” to “what-the-fuck-Trump” and many Trump supporters are positively gleeful about it. People are angry. They are gonna say angry things. They will say the occasional stupid thing. I sometimes roll my eyes at what I read. I don’t see a problem with calling out specific examples of people saying stupid things. But that wasn’t what you were doing. You were calling out hyperbolic statements and attributing to “the group” as if it were some sort of tactic, and as if it could be controlled. But it isn’t a tactic, and you can’t control it. It is just people being people. And good on you for a fair minded response. You are a good egg after all. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1342 "2017-05-17T02:52:51Z")
[The Authoritarians](http://theauthoritarians.org/Downloads/TheAuthoritarians.pdf) (PDF) by Bob Altemeyer offers suggestions for restraining authoritarian impulses in society. **Good ideas:** College education Exposure to diversity Peer pressure (authoritarians desire to be normal) Visible minorities Laws (authoritarians obey laws they disagree with) Profiles in courage: > [@](#): > > Many times people know that something wrong is happening, but they don’t do anything because they know other people are also aware of the situation. As a result, all can trap themselves into inactivity. Often one person can steel another, and another and another, until many are working together. You don’t have to form a majority to have an effect. Civic outreach: > [@](#): > > You’ll be amazed how bonding it is when four people wrestle an old washing machine out of the brown water that none of them could have managed alone. This is called a superordinate goal, and social psychologists can cite many studies that show it really does open doors between groups. … So, go bother them. Reach out, looking especially for whatever moderates may be in their numbers. \*\*Ideas that sound good, but probably won’t happen because of conflicting interests: \*\* Parents teaching children to be skeptical of authority and question rules. Getting authoritarians to read about the downsides of authoritarian psychology. They assume it’s talking about someone else. Getting authoritarians to understand they’re being played for suckers. They’re too invested and will just lump you in with the outgroup. Even if they realize they’ve been played they won’t re-evaluate their thinking, they’ll just blame the conman and then accept the next one with open arms. Reducing fear. The news media and partisan groups are incentivized to raise fear in the populace. Religious instructors teaching the youth they are, like everyone else, children of God, instead of say, Baptists, which makes them better than everyone else. **Bad ideas:** Violent protest activates authoritarian desire for law and order. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1343 "2017-05-17T03:04:31Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Can you link to the locked thread you refer to? I’m not finding it. Thanks. It was “Stupid Liberal Ideas” with a slightly different title, started by a now-banned troll. There’s a **Bricker** thread complaining about it in ATMB. ETA: Which I can’t now find, as I wanted to be sure I attributed it properly. If I misattributed it, I apologize. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1344 "2017-05-17T03:50:15Z")
> [@Chisquirrel](#): > > It was “Stupid Liberal Ideas” with a slightly different title, started by a now-banned troll. There’s a **Bricker** thread complaining about it in ATMB. > > ETA: Which I can’t now find, as I wanted to be sure I attributed it properly. If I misattributed it, I apologize. Oh, that one. So the thread locking had nothing to do with content per se. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1345 "2017-05-17T04:34:09Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Nazis?!? Where? I don’t know what’s funnier the hysteria that people are demonstrating about Trump or that the 2nd thread making fun of liberals got locked while there are roughly 2818362718191837662.2 threads on Trump. Where? How about in Charlottesville, Virginia, where they chanted “Russia is our friend” and “Blood and soil”? And this is what “Blood and soil” means: > **[Blood and soil](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_and_Soil)** > > Final solution > Blood and soil (German: Blut und Boden) is a nationalist slogan expressing Nazi Germany's ideal of a racially defined national body ("Blood") united with a settlement area ("Soil"). By it, rural and farm life forms are idealized as a counterweight to urban ones. It is tied to the contemporaneous German concept of Lebensraum, the belief that the German people were to expand into Eastern Europe, conquering and displacing the native Slavic and Baltic population via Generalplan Ost.\[c... ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1346 "2017-05-17T14:16:31Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Where? How about in Charlottesville, Virginia, where they chanted “Russia is our friend” and “Blood and soil”? Knowing the history of the two countries and philosophies, I find amusing _any_ Nazis (neo- or otherwise) to be chanting, “Russia is our friend.” Are tweets admissible in court? Can it be proven that the realDonaldTrump tweets were in fact, typed by the real D.T.? If so, talk about making your own rope. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1347 "2017-05-17T16:43:34Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Knowing the history of the two countries and philosophies, I find amusing _any_ Nazis (neo- or otherwise) to be chanting, “Russia is our friend.” There’s a lot of Neo-Nazis in Russia and Eastern Europe. That’s some serious rationalization and special pleading. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1348 "2017-05-18T12:10:54Z")
…and he’s off again! Tonight’s tweet storm should be a goodie! > [@](#): > > This is the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history! > > [@](#): > > With all of the illegal acts that took place in the Clinton campaign & Obama Administration, there was never a special councel appointed! [https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/865169927644340224](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/865169927644340224) ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1349 "2017-05-18T12:26:00Z")
Awesome! This shouldn’t be so much fun. I think I’m laughing because the only alternative is to break down sobbing for our future. ---
**Author:** ![Crybaby\_Boobie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crybaby_boobie/32/545_2.png) [@Crybaby\_Boobie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crybaby_Boobie)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1350 "2017-05-18T12:33:22Z")
Councel??? Seriously, he couldn’t even misspell it council like I almost did? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1351 "2017-05-18T13:42:45Z")
> [@Crybaby\_Boobie](#): > > Councel??? Seriously, he couldn’t even misspell it council like I almost did? Remember when [it took him three tries](http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/322283-social-media-users-mock-trump-for-misspelling-hereby-in) to spell “hereby” right? ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1352 "2017-05-18T13:54:16Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Remember when [it took him three tries](http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/322283-social-media-users-mock-trump-for-misspelling-hereby-in) to spell “hereby” right? I could swear this isn’t even the first time he’s misspelled “counsel.” I have this memory of him mixing it up with “council” a few weeks ago, but I can’t seem to find the tweet. Anyone have a memory of this? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1353 "2017-05-18T13:57:44Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > I could swear this isn’t even the first time he’s misspelled “counsel.” I have this memory of him mixing it up with “council” a few weeks ago, but I can’t seem to find the tweet. Anyone have a memory of this? When the President does it, it’s not misspelled, k? ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1354 "2017-05-18T14:01:44Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > I could swear this isn’t even the first time he’s misspelled “counsel.” I have this memory of him mixing it up with “council” a few weeks ago, but I can’t seem to find the tweet. Anyone have a memory of this? [Here it is](http://mashable.com/2017/05/08/trump-white-house-council-counsel-merriam-webster/#cv_3fR_bKkqY). Pretty easy to find once I got the right search term down. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1355 "2017-05-18T14:53:38Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …and he’s off again! > > Tonight’s tweet storm should be a goodie! > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/865173176854204416) > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/865169927644340224) It’s great when Trump goes off on his own and tweets idiotic things. Why? Because his words are often used against him later. This is why the Whitehouse was happy yesterday because they projected a measured and contained response to the special counsel, and then they were dismayed later when little fingers found his phone and tweeted the usual foaming at the mouth nonsense. He can’t control himself. And nobody can control him. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1356 "2017-05-18T15:33:26Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …and he’s off again! > > Tonight’s tweet storm should be a goodie! > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/865173176854204416) > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/865169927644340224) If Trump thinks that there were illegal shenanigans in the Clinton campaign, he could always direct his Attorney General to investigate. It’s like he keeps forgetting he’s President. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1357 "2017-05-18T16:05:44Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > If Trump thinks that there were illegal shenanigans in the Clinton campaign, he could always direct his Attorney General to investigate. It’s like he keeps forgetting he’s President. Shhhh! Don’t remind him! ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1358 "2017-05-18T18:25:10Z")
> [@Crybaby\_Boobie](#): > > Councel??? Seriously, he couldn’t even misspell it council like I almost did? Trump evidently has shut down autocorrect. What, an inanimate object contradicting HIM ? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1359 "2017-05-18T18:36:17Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Trump evidently has shut down autocorrect. What, an inanimate object contradicting HIM ? Other way around, I think that autocorrect went on strike. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1360 "2017-05-18T19:14:02Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …and he’s off again! > > Tonight’s tweet storm should be a goodie! > > Quote: > This is the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history! > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/865173176854204416) He only has the BEST investigations. It’ll be the biggest investigation in the history of the world, believe me! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428.md?page=67) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428.md?page=69)