# Butt-Hurt Trump Takes to Twitter Again (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 19, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428 "2016-11-19T15:52:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/121 "2016-11-20T23:03:02Z")

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And I didn’t mean to critique you for it; just to point out that any move by Clinton to question Trump’s changing motivations would have likely just blown back on her. Donald Trump is the _idiot savant_ of the news pivot; he has no real master plan or strategy but he knows how to keep talking and talking until the conversation switches to something else without every actually answering the question (he literally did this during the debates). Hillary Clinton is the polar opposite; the thinks that by stating facts and carefully crafting her words into a measured explanation as if in a courtroom she’ll diffuse the allegations, when what she really gets in response is critics thinking (sometimes correctly) that’s she’s trying twist them into semantic agreement. Even when she’s being totally honest and inarguably factual (as she was many times in the debates) it often came off to people inclined to think of her as an elite as if she was trying to hide something else behind the facts, while Trump is completely unfazed by being caught in a bald lie. He has the countenance of the cat who ate the canary and is so pleased with himself that he engenders admiration from…well, from assholes. But there are a lot of assholes.

[Here](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/06/magazine/when-hillary-and-donald-were-friends.html) is an _New York Times Magazine_ article by Maureen Dowd that discusses how the Clinton’s initially came to New York and became associated with Trump. Take it with due notice of the author (Dowd came to prominence and won a Pulitzer for writing about the Monica Lewinsky scandal, and has been noted for writing caricatures of public personalities) but it does illustrate how Trump and the Clintons, despite having very different backgrounds, had certain interests in common and a mutual sense of being outsiders in the New York political and social scene. The article doesn’t paint a very flattering picture of either, and the fiscal incestuousness of both could give rise to any number of conspiracy theories if you subscribe to the notion that either side really thinks that far ahead (a hypothesis not really substantiated by the actions of either side).

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/122 "2016-11-20T23:04:42Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> [Here](http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38045852) is an illustration of why the media should ignore Trump’s inane tweeting and focus on reporting actual scandals.

Speaking for myself, I don’t think the actual scandals have nearly the same emotional hook as the trivial bullshit. That’s really what the media has to navigate if it’s going to take any ethical responsibility in this fiasco – how do you give the people something they don’t really want? I feel like we’ve fallen down this rabbit hole of superficial, sensationalist garbage and don’t know how to get out.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/123 "2016-11-20T23:24:21Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> Speaking for myself, I don’t think the actual scandals have nearly the same emotional hook as the trivial bullshit. That’s really what the media has to navigate if it’s going to take any ethical responsibility in this fiasco – how do you give the people something they don’t really want? I feel like we’ve fallen down this rabbit hole of superficial, sensationalist garbage and don’t know how to get out.

It’s a fair observation; even in a time before round-the-clock news coverage of world events and social media, complex news stories like the Iran-Contra crisis or the subtext behind the Falklands War was difficult to follow, and people largely don’t remember details or causes today. It is instructive, however, just how many people have tuned into shows like _The Daily Show_ and _Last Week Tonight_ for actual content, despite the fact that Jon Steward and John Oliver have enthusiastically (and correctly) protested that they are not journalists. The problem with a lot of media stories is that they just come off as repetitive. CNN and MSNBC ‘news’ shows are largely the same talking heads repeating the same stories with the same tenor over and over again, so even if viewers care about the issues they become jaded and indifferent.

I think the answer is to make viewers feel like they can do something about the story. This gets perilously close to the ‘advocacy journalism’ that is as divisive as campaigns, but in some respect in a complex story there needs to be someone breaking down the story and providing a narrative with actionable response. There has been a kind of backlash in media where it is okay to prove an ‘opinion’ (as long as it doesn’t hew too far from what is accepted) but not advocate personal action, which is exactly the opposite of what media icons like Ed Murrow advocated. The function of the media shouldn’t be to just provide facts (and yes, they are responsible for checking the statements of politicians against actual facts) but to press for action, especially when there is an issue or actor who affects and threatens the public as a whole across partisan lines, such as McCarthyism or global climate change.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/124 "2016-11-21T01:02:21Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> Now that they are completely in power and the Democrats are essentially powerless, there is no one left to blame… they turn on ‘liberal America’ (e.g. the protesters, dissenters, progressive causes, et cetera).

Yep. They’ll blame the Left, Muslims, Mexicans… The usual suspects. And they’ll _believe_ it, too.

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**Author:** ![Psychopants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Psychopants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Psychopants)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/125 "2016-11-21T01:23:36Z")

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this might be completely inappropriate, and I will trust the mods to do with it what they see fit, but I want to state unequivocally that I now worship Stranger on a Train. I agree with every single word s/he wrote, I am overwhelmed by both the style and the content of his/her posts and I want him/her to be my next-door neighbor, husband, bff, boss or all of the above.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/126 "2016-11-21T02:15:09Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> I don’t think the issue is literacy, but a lack of critical thinking. It’s mindblowing to me how little people actually seem to care about evaluating the evidence for any claim. I saw an anti-vax Facebook post recently that proudly proclaimed, ‘‘_I don’t care if it’s true, I will never get my children vaccinated!_’’
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> Wha…? 😕 How is it even possible not to care if something’s true?

> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> Because people are rationalizing animals, and will agree with claims that correspond to their belief system even if it is demonstrably untrue and counterfactual.

> [@octopus](#):
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> How do you explain religion? But yes critical thinking is definitely lacking.

And besides there’s how something being “true” is not the same thing as something being “right”… and people will double down on what \*feels \*“right”.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/127 "2016-11-21T12:14:59Z")

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> [@Psychopants](#):
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> this might be completely inappropriate, and I will trust the mods to do with it what they see fit, but I want to state unequivocally that I now worship Stranger on a Train. I agree with every single word s/he wrote, I am overwhelmed by both the style and the content of his/her posts and I want him/her to be my next-door neighbor, husband, bff, boss or all of the above.

This is not normal.

But yeah, I agree.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/128 "2016-11-21T13:37:23Z")

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The only response to Trump demanding an apology from anyone should be to say that you will apologize as soon as Trump begins apologizing to the people he has attacked and offended.

Since Trump refuses to apologize for anything even when he is clearly in the wrong, he has no business requesting apologies from anyone else.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/129 "2016-11-21T14:44:32Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> The only response to Trump demanding an apology from anyone should be to say that you will apologize as soon as Trump begins apologizing to the people he has attacked and offended.
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> Since Trump refuses to apologize for anything even when he is clearly in the wrong, he has no business requesting apologies from anyone else.

The SDMB must always be a safe and special place. **Chimera** was very rude last night to a very large and orange-hued man, Donald J. Trump. Apologize!

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/130 "2016-11-21T16:39:06Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> And another butt-hurt liberal whine is posted…

But it’s OK if the Prez-elect of the U.S. gets butt hurt and tweets that anything less than an absolute ass kissing is “terribly so unfair” … or some other whiny bitch bullshit.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/131 "2016-11-21T16:44:05Z")

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Well, now, just consider the source and brush it off. The boy can’t help it, my grandma didn’t raise him, not his fault.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/132 "2016-11-21T16:48:26Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Well, now, just consider the source and brush it off. The boy can’t help it, my grandma didn’t raise him, not his fault.

Yeah, they never expected him to escape from the attic 😃

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/133 "2016-11-22T06:10:00Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> Trump is going to be tweeting stream-of-consciousness horseshit on a daily basis from now until he leaves the Oval Office. None if it is going to be in any way meaningful or convince anyone that they made the wrong decision in voting for him or that he’s not fit to be president because that train left the station long ago.
> 
> Look, it’s not as if your thread on a random message board is going to make any difference to the public at large, and if you want to enjoy some recreational outrage then that’s your privilege. But understand that mocking Trump for the stupid things he says makes him look disarmingly clownish to those who already dislike him and just reinforces the belief that he’s being constantly attacked by those who follow him, undermining the actually disingeneous, dishonest, and dangerous things he says and does. And it’s hard not to make fun of him, in part because he’s already a walking cartoon character, and because he is so tempermentally thin skinned that he feels the need to respond to every single insult, which is even funnier. But now that so many (myself included) discounted his potential to tap into voter frustration and dismissed the actual danger that he posed, it’s time to stop making distracting fun of the infantile things he squirts out on social media and start highlighting all of the actually threatening things he and the people who he has surrounded himself with are doing.
> 
> You can blame the voters all you like, and frankly I think there is a substantial portion of the electorate across lines that has not educated themselves, but quite frankly the Democratic party did a disservice by selecting a candidate for party loyalty rather than wide appeal, and there remains the larger issue that the reinforcement of the notion that you have to vote either one of the two choices results in other parties being marginalized and fronted by useless candidates which further diminishes their message. That the Democrats had to strategize against Sanders to prevent him from hijacking their party (and they rightfully should, given that Sanders was just as much of a demolisher for them as Trump was to the GOP, would have been an even weaker candidate than Clinton, and has now [conditionally given his approval to Trump](http://www.npr.org/2016/11/17/502437435/sanders-trump-will-have-an-ally-with-me-if-he-stands-up-to-corporate-america)) just shows how narrow the appeal of their selected candidate was and how much of the country they are essentially ignoring.
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> Stranger

It’s not like it’s one or the other. You can focus on the scandals too. But what I see is a president-elect who is quick to try to suppress freedom of speech. He’s tweeted more in recent days about _Hamilton_ and SNL than he has that racist fuck who’s been “Heil, Trump”-ing him.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/134 "2016-11-22T14:22:10Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> “hamilton was totally overrated, burr was a better lawyer, a better actor, and a better shot … And he did it all while confined to a wheelchair!”
> 
> cmc fnord!

roflmao

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/135 "2016-11-22T14:41:41Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> …He’s tweeted more in recent days about _Hamilton_ and SNL than he has that racist fuck who’s been “Heil, Trump”-ing him.

Has he said anything _at all_ about them, last few days? Even so much as a “tsk! tsk!”.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/136 "2016-11-22T14:43:11Z")

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After Hamilton and SNL, and his hissy fits, I think we all should start calling him the Whiny Bitch In Chief.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/137 "2016-11-22T14:55:42Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Has he said anything _at all_ about them, last few days? Even so much as a “tsk! tsk!”.

“Tsk!” is not on his list of the best words.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/138 "2016-11-22T15:18:02Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> roflmao

T’ank you!  
('Cause I was wondering "Who the fuck is going to get a Raymond “Perry Mason/Ironside” Burr joke?

We’re old :(!)

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/139 "2016-11-22T15:20:38Z")

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Raymond Burr? Who the fuck is…oh! Right! _Godzilla_!

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/140 "2016-11-23T03:25:49Z")

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Seems in one of his recent tweets, he’s asked for Nigel Farage to be the British ambassador to the US. This is the first time in history that an American president or president-elect has asked a country for a specific person to be ambassador.

The queen was not amused, nor are the British public from what I hear.

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