# Butt-Hurt Trump Takes to Twitter Again (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 19, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428 "2016-11-19T15:52:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 81
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1601 "2017-06-07T00:17:33Z")
I’m hesitant to predict his downfall due to his running a twitterocracy, since he did the same thing in the election and he won. But it just so cringeworthy and embarrassing, it’s hard to even read about it. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1602 "2017-06-07T01:03:42Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Well, to be fair, that was mainly because they were pretty sure he would stiff them once he got the bill. They could sue him. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1603 "2017-06-07T01:07:32Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > it’s hard to even read about it. You speak Truth, Kimovfefe… ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1604 "2017-06-07T01:22:34Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > I haven’t been following along closely but how does this shoot his legal team in the foot? I thought that the problem with his TRAVEL BAN was that it was transparently a ban on Muslim countries which breached anti-discrimination laws. I thought that if it was a ban (instead) on people from DANGEROUS countries, then there would be no issue. …I know your question has been answered: but here is (bizarrely) Karl Rove on Fox News explaining why [“Trump has taken out a twitter gun and shot himself four times with it.”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1gUNNVfRdE) ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1605 "2017-06-07T01:35:00Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I’m hesitant to predict his downfall due to his running a twitterocracy, since he did the same thing in the election and he won. But it just so cringeworthy and embarrassing, it’s hard to even read about it. He still has his base of support but even the most committed of his brownshirts have to be on the verge of losing their religion now. Like you, I’ve been assuming that we’re being set up to be disappointed (and horrified) - the country is ripe for a right-wing authoritarian and no matter what happens to Trump, that won’t change. But surely some of the _Republistag_ members must be having some creeping doubts about his ability to preside over anything at this point. I think chasing Sessions out the White House would be a potential tipping point moment. I mean who else is a more natural surrogate than General Beauregard? ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1606 "2017-06-07T01:59:37Z")
> Senate passed the VA Accountability Act. The House should get this bill to my desk ASAP! We can’t tolerate substandard care for our vets. Isn’t this he bill that is gonna screw a lot of Vietnam vets out of a pension? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1607 "2017-06-07T02:11:46Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > … but even the most committed of his brownshirts have to be on the verge of losing their religion now. > … No, no no no no no no. No. Do not think this, do not ever think it, it isn’t true. It will never be. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1608 "2017-06-07T02:19:31Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/872258719404482561) > > Senate passed the VA Accountability Act. The House should get this bill to my desk ASAP! We can’t tolerate substandard care for our vets. > Isn’t this he bill that is gonna screw a lot of Vietnam vets out of a pension? Probably, but they already voted for him so it’s okay. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1609 "2017-06-07T02:20:43Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/872258719404482561) > > Senate passed the VA Accountability Act. The House should get this bill to my desk ASAP! We can’t tolerate substandard care for our vets. > Isn’t this he bill that is gonna screw a lot of Vietnam vets out of a pension? Not sure about vets but it could sure screw a lot of VA employees out of money. [ > [@](#): > > The bill also lets the secretary cut retirement benefits for an employee convicted of a felony that influenced the person’s performance on the job. Employees can appeal these notices to the director of the Office of Personnel Management. > > It addresses another, highly specific circumstance: employees who retire before the department issues a final removal or disciplinary notice. The bill would also let the secretary reduce an employee’s retirement annuity in this situation. > > The secretary could also request that employees repay all or part of their bonuses, awards or relocation incentives if the department later learns of their poor performance or misconduct and determines “that such award or bonus would not have been paid, in whole or in part, had the misconduct or poor performance been known prior to the payment,” the bill said. > > “Why would I come work at an agency when bonuses can be taken away from me and relocation incentives can be taken away from me,” Park said. > > Yet the committee doesn’t view the provision as one that prevent the department from recruiting new or existing employees to other positions or locations. > > “We’re saying that you had to have done something bad to have gotten that relocation bonus in the first place,” the aides said. > > Others say the bill offers few details about the circumstances that VA could ask an employee or executive to repay his or her bonus, which could spark tough legal battles in the future. > > “It’s fairly vague about what constitutes violations that would warrant the clawing back of these funds,” the former government executive said. “It doesn’t provide a threshold… and that’s a problem.” ]([How different is the new VA accountability bill from other attempts? Depends who you ask](https://federalnewsradio.com/congress/2017/03/different-new-va-accountability-bill-attempts-depends-ask/)) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1610 "2017-06-07T02:40:40Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Even the Wall Street Journal slammed him today: > … > > > [@](#): > > > > Quote: > > In other words, in 140-character increments, Mr. Trump diminished his own standing by causing a minor international incident, demonstrated that the loyalty he demands of the people who work for him isn’t reciprocal, set back his policy goals and wasted time that he could have devoted to health care, tax reform or “infrastructure week.” Mark it all down as further evidence that the most effective opponent of the Trump Presidency is Donald J. Trump. > > (The quotes are from [here](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-twitter-wall-street-journal_us_5936b8d6e4b0099e7faf418e) on Huff Post. WARNING: autoplay video at the link. I would’ve linked to the WSJ but the editorial is behind a pay wall.) How can the anti-Trump people say he hasn’t accomplished anything?? LOOK at all he got done without even breaking a sweat (except on his thumbs)! > [@Princhester](#): > > I doubt that concern about payment was the real reason. It’s probably a real reason, but not the whole reason. > [@asahi](#): > > … > I think chasing Sessions out the White House would be a potential tipping point moment. I mean who else is a more natural surrogate than General Beauregard? You mean this would be McConnell, Ryan, _et al._'s last straw? If so, then what? ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1611 "2017-06-07T02:49:51Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > It’s probably a real reason, but not the whole reason. Would Trump be paying his own legal bills anyway, given that the investigation would be against him in his capacity as Pres? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1612 "2017-06-07T04:00:27Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > Would Trump be paying his own legal bills anyway, given that the investigation would be against him in his capacity as Pres? The investigation is about his actions while he was a candidate, not since he became President. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1613 "2017-06-07T04:31:32Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The investigation is about his actions while he was a candidate, not since he became President. OK then ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1614 "2017-06-07T05:18:51Z")
Does it matter if it was candidate or President? I thought that Trump had to retain private counsel in order to maintain attorney-client privilege. ---
**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1615 "2017-06-07T05:36:06Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > Would Trump be paying his own legal bills anyway, given that the investigation would be against him in his capacity as Pres? > [@Rick Kitchen](#): > > The investigation is about his actions while he was a candidate, not since he became President. It’s unclear exactly the time frames being looked at when it comes to Michael Flynn and if either the FBI investigation and/or House or Senate investigations include anything from the three weeks or so he was the National Security Advisor. Therefore, it may be too early to tell if any of Trump’s official presidential actions could be covered in the investigation, particularly since additional grounds could be some of Trump’s actions as president vis-a-vis Comey, and whether any suspected collusion between the campaign and Russia possibly translated into any quid pro quo during the administration. Hiring private counsel as a government employee is usually a way to ensure that no attorney-client privileged communications or attorney work product could possibly be subpoenaed or inadvertently discovered/disclosed due to everything being technically government records of a sort if handled by federal attorneys in any office, besides the normal rules of confidentiality that are supposed to protect such records. > [@Sunny Daze](#): > > I thought that Trump had to retain private counsel in order to maintain attorney-client privilege. That can be a tricky issue. For DOJ attorneys, their client is the United States of America, not any particular politician, even if it is the president. For White House Counsel, their client is the Office of the President and not necessarily the individual holding it (though this can become difficult to separate at times). ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1616 "2017-06-07T05:58:52Z")
Where I practice it would not be uncommon (for example) for an employer to agree to pay the bills of employee’s private counsel, where it is appropriate for reasons of confidentiality etc for the employee to have private counsel but it is also appropriate for the employer to assist with funding. Would that not work in the US? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1617 "2017-06-07T09:17:06Z")
Happy Comey Day, Twitterverse! There is a slim chance that President Trump will contain himself and remain calm and reserved in the face of whatever Comey might say and he’ll eschew Twitter for the day. And there is the chance that Scarlett Johannson will come to me tonight dressed as Little Bo-Peep with an inflatable sheep under her arm, but I’m not putting any money down on either. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1618 "2017-06-07T09:21:08Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Happy Comey Day, Twitterverse! > > There is a slim chance that President Trump will contain himself and remain calm and reserved in the face of whatever Comey might say and he’ll eschew Twitter for the day. And there is the chance that Scarlett Johannson will come to me tonight dressed as Little Bo-Peep with an inflatable sheep under her arm, but I’m not putting any money down on either. Yeah, she’s at my place tonight - I’ll tell her about your sheep thing if she’s free tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1619 "2017-06-07T10:38:47Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Nobody is that fucking stupid! Fake news! Ivanka would stop him! Jared! Jesus! Wait wait wait, when did Trump’s family get a Jesus? And, with that name, are you sure he’s not Mexican? ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1620 "2017-06-07T11:21:54Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Who knew impeachment would be so difficult? 😉 > [@The Trump Presidency HAS to end with Impeachment... right?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-presidency-has-to-end-with-impeachment-right/786406/121): > > Nobody knew getting impeached could be so complicated ☹ 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428.md?page=80) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428.md?page=82)