# Butt-Hurt Trump Takes to Twitter Again (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 19, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428 "2016-11-19T15:52:34Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1921 "2017-06-30T14:07:08Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> I guess the thing I don’t get (and maybe it’s already been discussed and I didn’t see it) is why the Mika tweet is suddenly the one that has pushed everyone over the edge. He’s been spouting hateful bile on Twitter for years and _now_ all of a sudden people are saying “Whoa… That’s over the line”?

For most of those years, he wasn’t the President of the US. Big difference between tweeting crap as a private citizen versus the President (not to his supporters though).

And of course, it is yet another part of the huge escalation of his war on the media.

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1922 "2017-06-30T14:24:25Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I think we’ve been over the edge before, and as always, he pays no consequences for his behavior. Fortunately, as his popularity continues to seep away, the Republican agenda is mired in the muck along with him.

His popularity does _not_ continue to seep away. His approval rating was 45% when he took office. It went down to around 40% in 2 months, but it’s been around that point since then. It’s actually gone up by 2 points in the past 3 weeks, from 38% to 40%. (According to FiveThirtyEight weighted averages.)

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1923 "2017-06-30T14:55:52Z")

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> [@crucible](#):
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> Perhaps the era of duels was in response to one’s wife being denigrated by some idiot. Perhaps Joe should find a way to give Thrump a gloveslap. We know both parties are fully up and around at dawn. Let it be verbal sparring, if need be to overcome laws against evisceration and the like. Winner keeps their job, loser goes into retirement.

A traditional duel wouldn’t work, for obvious reasons:

“Each of the parties shall now step ten paces away from each other, at my count… One… Two… Three…”  
“_(gasp)_ Golf cart… I need my golf cart…!”

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**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1924 "2017-06-30T15:27:51Z")

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> [@scr4](#):
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> His popularity does _not_ continue to seep away. His approval rating was 45% when he took office. It went down to around 40% in 2 months, but it’s been around that point since then. It’s actually gone up by 2 points in the past 3 weeks, from 38% to 40%. (According to FiveThirtyEight weighted averages.)

Actually it does. If you look at what’s happened with Strongly support vs. somewhat support you can see the change. It’s also evident in strongly disapprove and somewhat disapprove.

[https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trumps-base-is-shrinking/](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trumps-base-is-shrinking/)

This article is from a month ago, but I don’t imagine the trendlines have changed that much in June.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1925 "2017-06-30T15:50:05Z")

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[Things are getting interesting.](http://www.politicususa.com/2017/06/30/joe-scarborough-busts-trump-major-lie-text-phone-records-prove.html) Donald claimed that Scarborough begged him to kill a story in the National Enquirer, I guess it was to expose Joe and Mika’s relationship.  
Joe’s tweet in response:  
“Yet another lie. I have texts from your top aides and phone records. Also, those records show I haven’t spoken with you in many months.”

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1926 "2017-06-30T15:55:48Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> I’m not trying to be argumentative here, but that’s a list of Republican politicians with asses to protect, not Trump supporters. I’m talking about Trump voters. Those politicians will support him as long as he is pushing an agenda that makes Republicans smile, even if they occasionally wag their fingers at him in public.

It seems that even Republican voters are starting to [grow weary of Trumps twitter tantrums](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/29/fox-news-poll-voters-say-trumps-tweets-hurting-agenda.html).

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> Among Republicans, 21 percent approve, while 59 percent would like Trump to be more careful with his tweets and 18 percent disapprove.

Note this poll was taken before the Mika tweet, so I imagine its ever lower now.

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1927 "2017-06-30T16:07:33Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> It seems that even Republican voters are starting to [grow weary of Trumps twitter tantrums](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/29/fox-news-poll-voters-say-trumps-tweets-hurting-agenda.html).
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> Note this poll was taken before the Mika tweet, so I imagine its ever lower now.

There’s a big difference between being disgusted with his stupid tweets and actually pulling support for the buffoon in chief. It seems to me his supporters are saying “I wish he’d knock off the tweets, but at least he’s not Hillary.”

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1928 "2017-06-30T16:36:37Z")

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[A long video but holy shit.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTZOSBnYeE4)

Joe and Mika responding to the insults and exposing the blackmail.

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1929 "2017-06-30T16:39:04Z")

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> [@Airbeck](#):
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> Actually it does. If you look at what’s happened with Strongly support vs. somewhat support you can see the change. It’s also evident in strongly disapprove and somewhat disapprove.
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> [https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trumps-base-is-shrinking/](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trumps-base-is-shrinking/)
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> This article is from a month ago, but I don’t imagine the trendlines have changed that much in June.

Point taken. But [Rasmussen](http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_jun30) polls show the downward trend has _not_ continued. The “strongly disapprove” number has been fairly stable since April.

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1930 "2017-06-30T16:41:58Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> [A long video but holy shit.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTZOSBnYeE4)
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> Joe and Mika responding to the insults and exposing the blackmail.

“we’re fine, but the country’s not”

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1931 "2017-06-30T16:52:10Z")

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> [@scr4](#):
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> Point taken. But [Rasmussen](http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_jun30) polls show the downward trend has _not_ continued. The “strongly disapprove” number has been fairly stable since April.

Strongly approve has been fading across a number of demographics and appears to be continuing to do so:

[https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/06/07/strong-approval-of-trump-is-fading-across-a-number-of-demographics/?utm\_term=.108cf9a4c513](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/06/07/strong-approval-of-trump-is-fading-across-a-number-of-demographics/?utm_term=.108cf9a4c513)

Remember he’s only been in office 5+ months. These trendlines are not a good sign for him.

Strongly disapprove is going to be hard to keep growing since its already about as high as Trump’s overall approval is.

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1932 "2017-06-30T17:03:19Z")

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> [@Airbeck](#):
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> Strongly approve has been fading across a number of demographics and appears to be continuing to do so:
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> [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/06/07/strong-approval-of-trump-is-fading-across-a-number-of-demographics/?utm\_term=.108cf9a4c513](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/06/07/strong-approval-of-trump-is-fading-across-a-number-of-demographics/?utm_term=.108cf9a4c513)
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> Remember he’s only been in office 5+ months. These trendlines are not a good sign for him.
> 
> Strongly disapprove is going to be hard to keep growing since its already about as high as Trump’s overall approval is.

Look at the actual data points. You’ll see that the linear regression is driven by the big drop in disapproval numbers in the first 2 months of his term. The numbers stabilize after that.

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1933 "2017-06-30T17:11:31Z")

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> [@scr4](#):
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> Look at the actual data points. You’ll see that the linear regression is driven by the big drop in disapproval numbers in the first 2 months of his term. The numbers stabilize after that.

What are you talking about? The graphs go from January to now and they are still going down for strongly approve and still going up for strongly disapprove.

Why don’t you quote the numbers you are referring to. The graphs in the link I posted do not support your contention, so if you can show your math your argument can be evaluated on its merits. Just asserting that the data points say something is not convincing. What data points do you mean specifically, and how do they support your claim?

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1934 "2017-06-30T17:16:03Z")

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[This truck](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gSZfbMcXoL4/UdHj2wP-QrI/AAAAAAAAADc/MwQVOHk1lHQ/s1600/IMG_1291.JPG) was seen backing up to the White House early this morning.

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1935 "2017-06-30T17:18:57Z")

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> [@Airbeck](#):
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> Remember he’s only been in office 5+ months. …

WHAAAA??

Only five MONTHS? [The hell you say!](http://www.petiquettedog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/screaming-woman-with-big-hair-SIZED-440x321.jpg)

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1936 "2017-06-30T17:20:52Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> …Trump has Issues.

They’re not “issues” when you’re rich. Eccentricities, perhaps.

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1937 "2017-06-30T17:22:50Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> They’re not “issues” when you’re rich. Eccentricities, perhaps.

Quirks?

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1938 "2017-06-30T17:23:45Z")

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Peccadilloes, surely.

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1939 "2017-06-30T17:58:17Z")

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> [@Airbeck](#):
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> What are you talking about? The graphs go from January to now and they are still going down for strongly approve and still going up for strongly disapprove.
> 
> Why don’t you quote the numbers you are referring to. The graphs in the link I posted do not support your contention, so if you can show your math your argument can be evaluated on its merits. Just asserting that the data points say something is not convincing. What data points do you mean specifically, and how do they support your claim?

For the “strong approval” graphs in [your link](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/06/07/strong-approval-of-trump-is-fading-across-a-number-of-demographics/?utm_term=.292319f18424), hide the left half of the graph, ignore the dotted line (which is the linear regression for the whole graph) and just look at the data points. Some do show a moderate decline over the 5 or 6 latest data points, but most do not. The first one (Republicans), for example, shows a moderate increase over the last 6 data points.

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Haven’t I seen stories saying that the Rasmussen polls tend to skew a good 10 points or more for Republicans compared to other polling organizations?

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